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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.

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  1. I think the predecessor did some, and they developed that boat a little bit to make the production polycons. There isn't a ton of info out there, but it looks like some were built with balsa core and later boats may be foam core? Would love to see a rating just to get an idea of performance, but haven't found anything yet.
  2. Came across this ad: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/6137163336.html, was wondering if anyone had any insight into the Polynesian Concepts 38/38? From what I gather is was designed by CSK but built by Schock? I don't have any affiliation, and I'm not really in the market, but I'm always kinda looking for small-ish cruising cats with good performance. Something that would be fun to daysail but could also do some cruising (more camping style cruising). If the displacement of 5,500 lbs listed on sailboat data is correct this should be a pretty quick boat, right? I did get to tour my dock neighbor's Woods Banshee 35 a few weeks ago and thought it was just about perfect. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/6137163336.html http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=3901
  3. Any SF Bay interest? Would love to see a fleet come together here - I'm hoping to be able to place a deposit this fall.
  4. Awesome boat, congrats! Start a new thread for the race prep, I'm sure everyone wants to follow allong.
  5. Appreciate your insight. I was thinking that on the spectrum of cruising cats the TRT is the most performance oriented (not too many boats faster than the GT), then quite a jump to the A42, then a ways down the spectrum is your typical charter cat. I'm not in the market, but in a couple years I hope to be looking for a fast-ish, fun to sail cat with the capability of coastal ocean racing and cruising. Green Flash seemed like the perfect boat, but it sounds like the delivery back from HI was maybe a little more exciting than planned? TRT CR looks like a nice balance between performance and comfort for more than a couple days. A42 looks great for extended cruising, but the price delta is considerable (Lightspeed is for sale at $369K).
  6. Not to totally hijack, but... Does anyone know if there were very many TRT 1200 CR brought to the US? What is +/- market price? The options for a used (i.e. more affordable), more performance oriented cruiser cat seem limited. Any thoughts on the performance of an Chris White Atlantic 42 vs the older Outremers?
  7. Also - I used clear western red cedar because that is what my plans called for. It is light and strong, but you may have something better/cheaper where you are?
  8. Sorry I didn't chime in earlier. I went through this process and posted a while back: http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=158234&p=4804664 I updated the original shape and the result is great - had the boat up to 20 knots briefly and spent a lot of time in the high teens with no complaints from the board. This project took way more time than I expected, I think that Zonker's method with the circular saw would be far better than my router method. I used the same method for the trailing edge and it came out great (the battens provide a straight edge - I actually took the wood edge back a bit and filled between the glass with thickened epoxy so that the trailing edge is all epoxy/glass). Happy to answer questions, but this method worked well for me. One last note - I had the wood cut to the trunk width (or actually slightly less to accommodate the glass thickness) and run through a planner so that it was true. That saved a lot of time compared to making my own planks.
  9. Not for everyone: twice the speed and half the accommodation: http://sailinganarchy.com/classifieds/show-ad/?id=2385 Fantastic Bay boat and easy to single hand. (sorry for the shameless ad)
  10. That's a great solution. Mark is a very good sailor - he's kicked my ass every time we race. The boat is fast and he knows how to push it in rough conditions. I think he has a really good shot at taking it (and I hope he does - really nice guy as well).
  11. Jabberwock is for sale, great boat but I'm moving.check the classified ads.
  12. Looks fun. Is there a group or any racing going on near Salt Lake City? I spend a lot of time there for work.
  13. Shameless thread bump: Jabberwock is for sale, check the classifieds. Boat is in great shape and ready to go. The board has held up great - seen 20 knots boatspeed with no knocking or humming. Pretty tough to find a boat this fast in this price range - should be a great deal for someone. If I could keep the boat I would, but I'm moving and can't take it with me.
  14. Need crew? +1, seriously. Good for you to jump on it! Going to bring it back to the Bay?