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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. The fix is easy and has already been stated. When my F85 hit the water I had a hum from both the C/B and rudder. Not loud but still it was a noise that I didn't need. If I liked noise I'd have a power boat. I sanded one side of the trailing edge to make a chisel point shape and I can now sit back and enjoy the quiet. Neither make any noise at all.
  2. I saw a 20ft cat with this foil configuration 10 years ago in the Netherlands.I think it was by White Formula of the UK. I just checked their web site and can't find it, but they do have a foiling 20ft boat. Maybe find out if they changed and why would be a good idea.
  3. It would be interesting to hear about your build as it progresses. I have a friend who built a wing mast for his 30ft cruising cat from ply and glass. All the fittings were built into the mast. The first mast was too flexible so he built another with a larger sectional shape and that worked great for 6 years until it broke. Out for a sail on flat water in a moderate breeze and it just folded. Now he has an alloy wing section.I understand the alloy section is heavier and the boat is also slower. Ply/glass mast cost $1500 to build and the alloy section was more like $13,000 fitted out. There is a saving to be had if you can make it so it doesn't break.
  4. " I am looking for a fun boat. I should have been more specific as to what I want to do. This would be a newbuild, scaling up the dimensions.Thinking about a 20 foot beam. I like the idea of a stressed ply construction, wetting the ply. would use 6mm okoume. Thanks Groucho Marx. That's pretty much what I had in mind. Need info on the crossbeams." Back in the 80s I was looking at building a Malcomn Tennant design 32ft stressed ply cat with a wing mast. Boat design called "Red Shift". Hulls were 4mm gaboon (okume) with 200gm glass each side and a cedar stripped deck. May just be the ticket if you can still get the plans. http://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/index.php?page=red-shift
  5. May be worth a look. http://www.sailingcatamarans.com/sango.htm
  6. Self righting is neat:-
  7. Chidz, sorry but I won't be there. I had planned to at least do the one lap dash but can't even make that now. Just poor planning on my part as I thought it was on the following weekend.
  8. Take good care of those plans.
  9. So same fit out . That is a good price for a much larger mast.
  10. "My mast for the F32R cost me 21500 Euro and I bought a Axxon mast http://www.axxoncomposites.com/en/" The currency conversion has that a bit more than what I paid, but it is also 1.4m longer. Was that with all the fittings or just the tube?
  11. Not sure if you can do this on a 750, however on my F85 instead of nylon /plastic pads I used fibre glass plates I made with thickened epoxy either side to glue to the beam pads on the hull to get a prefect fit. Just put packing tape on contact area on the beams to ensure release once the resin has cured. Then unfolded and bolt down. The excess thickened epoxy gets squashed out. Once cured, open up and just clean up the excess. No gap, no movement, no noise.
  12. Nelson I think you could use your current beams. At least if they are the same as the F82 beams you could. Building the floats is a "walk in the park" compared to building the beams. I like the F85 floats but have not sailed the F25 or 82 to make a comparison. Maybe Evil could tell what he thinks.
  13. Both are 12.6m masts.
  14. If you just get the blank carbon tube from C tech the price is not so bad. I was quoted around $8,500AUD. If they completely fit it out with carbon fittings, as they did for me, the price goes up by a huge amount. Were they quoting a fitted mast? My mast fitted with sheaves, 5 cleats and diamond wires but without halyards and stays it only weighed 57kg and over 7kg of that was the diamond wires. I had them put hi mod carbon down the side to improve the stiffness through the minor axis and they could have reduced the weight by another 3kg but I chose to keep the weight and increased safety factor. (This is the 12.6m mast) I'm retired and offset the cost by making some etching presses. I had already bought a lathe to make one for my misses. It was cheaper to buy the lathe and make her press than get someone else do the machining. (browny points plus as the lather was handy making stuff for the boat too) So I just made half a dozen more etching presses and that helped pay for the mast. I'm extremely happy with the C Tech mast.
  15. I'm very interested hearing how the float rudders go. The single rudder seems OK upwind but your pic shows how the float rudders could come into their own once the kite goes up.