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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Laser full rig or laser radial

    Standard rig unless you sail in 20kts+ almost every day. For me, the only reason to sail a radial rig is if you are competing against others with the radial rig. But then when I sailed Lasers, there wasn't an option.
  2. Beach Camping Advice?

    Not so much on a cat. Mostly canoe and kayak. Get some good dry bags. I have a large one that will also work as a pack and other various sizes. For performance, stowing close to the mast is more efficient but then it might not be good for the rigging. Either way, you'll have to sort it all out. If you've done some backpacking, pretty much the same kit to load. Knowing the weather is more important though. Instead of just being miserable, you could be in grave danger in some conditions.
  3. Shouldn't be a problem. I used to single hand my 505 and often take an Olson 30 out for a sail single handed. You just have to give yourself a bit more room and time when leaving and returning to shore. It will be easier to launch and pull out using the ramp. Often there is a ledge at the beach that grabs the wheels of the dolly. The most important part is the setup. I launch my Swift Solo with the sails up, rudder in the cassette but blocked up, and the daggerboard where I can reach it. Back the boat into the water, slip the daggerboard in part way, then push off and climb in. When the boat is deep enough, push the blades all the way in. If your boat has a centerboard, that is a bit easier. A kick up rudder or one in a cassette also makes beach launches much easier. Best is a windward shore or cross breeze. If it is rough, a leeward shore is doable but not fun. Drop sails and pull blades early when coming in and time your jump over the side to catch the boat so you aren't swimming with the boat.
  4. Skipper/Crew roles

    I don't know why. When I sailed a 505, the crew did tactics and the guy in the back drove. The crew on the wire can see more and can let their focus be all over the place. The driver just keeps the boat under the sails and going as fast as possible. Funny thing was that the 505 was one of the few boats where the guy that we normally called "crew" owned the boat and called the tactics. Often on 49ers, the crew takes the main sheet to windward so the driver can concentrate on the boat speed. Off the wind, the driver takes the main while the crew takes the kite. If the driver is also the skipper/tactician, the crew calls the lay lines and informs the driver where other boats are and where wind changes are. But then how the work is divided is pretty much up to each boat and what works well for them.
  5. 1. Very true. 2. Also true. More than one company would help keep the cost down. Think competition. 3. Tough to do for an updated platform that performs better than the other two. Barriers to entry, "Just get a Laser. We all have one and you could join us." I hear this almost every time I rig my Swift around Laser sailors. I sailed one for seven years and I'll be damned if I'm going to work so hard to go so slow. Another question to be asked is why? The two boats are classic and ubiquitous for a few reasons. There are a lot of them. They are simple. They fit the niche. To create an updated design with better performance, better hardware, better sails, etc., you can't hit the price point and there are many already trying to make a case that they should be the next boat.
  6. RS700 Fleets in NA?

    I've only seen one boat. He used to join us at Huntington Lake and race with us at our NA's. Sorry. I can't remember his name and it has been a few years.
  7. Thistle buoyancy bags vs foam

    Well maintained bags will be better for weight. The foam will soak up water over time. Not enough to hurt the buoyancy but could add quite a bit of weight to the boat.
  8. RS800 Turbo

    How about an I14?
  9. Applying the Brakes

    If there is a jib, sometimes you can back the jib and luf the main. On my Swift, I have a fully batoned main and I can backwind and invert the batons. Then use the jib to provide what drive I need. Using the rudder would be bad for me as the boat turns too easily. There is always dropping sails if they use a halyard. I try to plan ahead and come into the docks very slow and under control. Beach launches are preferred with the skiff.
  10. Skiff Stow

    I have a pocket on my spinnaker sock. I usually put two bottles in there then often a third under. I don't tend to swim too often. I don't take phones or much more on the boat with me. Too wet and not enough hands. The bag in the inspection port lid works well too but makes things harder to get to. Keep the deck as free of added stuff as possible. A clean deck is easier to walk on and control lines don't get tangled on stuff in a capsize. Maybe the phone should go in a waterproof bag you can put inside your gear.
  11. 420 vs 505 for beginner

    I think the 505 is the better option. The 420 will get too small quickly. The 505 can be tuned to be a rocket ship or a little more forgiving. You'll probably have some swimming lessons along the way but everyone has had their share. The 505 is the first boat that I've seen where the crew member often is the owner of the boat. I was there once too. I love sailing the boat and prefer to be in the front of the boat. Finding a helmsman that you are comfortable with can be a chore but it is well worth it. If you can find a good used boat that you can afford, buy it. Then find the local 505 sailors and join them. When I was sailing a 505, they were a great bunch. Always ready to help. You can learn to sail on a leadmine but you'll have a hard time transitioning to a dinghy. Learn to sail a 505 and you'll be able to excel at sailing almost anything. My leadmine buddies used to laugh at mine. Then I'd show them how much I could control while under sail and change gears while on the water. Next I'd join them on the course and leave them in the dust. I learned tricks on my 505 that made me a much more effective leadmine sailor as well.
  12. 49er newbie questions

    I haven't been here for years. Sailing a skiff is not like most dinghys. For my Swift Solo, designed by a former 49er sailor as a single handed trainer, rarely can I right the boat with the mast to leeward. It takes less time to roll the boat so that the mast is to windward and let the wind help right the boat than to fight the wind. Speed is your friend. Sailing the boat at maximum speed is the easiest sailing you'll have. Trying to sail slow will only allow all of that sail to have more control over the boat. I've had to come in during a storm with just the jib up but it was strictly down wind. The boats are well balanced with both sails. Without the main, you can't point, without the jib, falling off is almost impossible. I prefer launching off of an open beach than to dealing with marinas. There is rarely enough room to maneuver inside a marina and the winds swirl making it very hard to sail. The boats don't weigh much so there isn't much momentum and they stop almost as quickly as they accelerate. Reht has given a good blow by blow of righting the boat. Have fun. Sail fast. Keep the stick in the air.
  13. What's on my mind? Absolutely nothing. :D

  14. DC Designs

    On the up side, collar bones heal very well and ofthen without need for surgery. I've been told that broken collar bones are the most common injury for children and that they heal by themselves quickly. It doesn't change the fact that it sucks big time when you get winnged. My son broke his playing soccer and then I had to put up with a rabbid soccer player that couldn't play for six months. I think my hell was worse than his. Best of luck on a speedy recovery. I've done the 0 mph roll before but so far it has been into bushes and flower beds.
  15. DC Designs

    Not that I have a dog in the show because I don't, but I thought the prefailing thought was to build wave piercing bows so that you went through the wave very easily instead of traveling the extra distance up and over the wave as well as the added drag of having so much energy being spent lifting the boat over the wave. Then your biggest drag will be the hardware on the deck, easily dealt with, and then the plank.