mfluder

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About mfluder

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  1. mfluder

    Larry's AC50 Circus

    The original bet was made with Team_GBR. He hasn't been back since. And Yes, it was the "Before the beginning of September"
  2. mfluder

    Team NYYC

    The Americas Cup is a team sport/ event is it not? Win as a team, lose as a team, but cheat as individuals? Don't think so, if you do the other two as a team, then you also cheat as a team.
  3. mfluder

    Team NYYC

    Where the cheating was is irrelevant. There is no "level of cheating" You cheat, or you don't cheat. But you are correct, every competitor was on the receiving end, including ETNZ, which is exactly how cheating works. Oracle cheated as a team, because that's how cheating works. The Americas Cup, like has been stated many times by many teams, over many years, is a team event. You win as a team, you lose as a team, so you cheat as a team.
  4. mfluder

    Larry's AC50 Circus

    They're just laughing at all the fools on the dock wearing Oracle T-shirts because they managed to fool them. Not only did they dupe them into believing some bollocks "comeback story" but they sucked them into wasting their hard earned money for a shitty T-shirt!
  5. mfluder

    Larry's AC50 Circus

    Try telling our friend Stingray that. He seems to think the faster boat lost AC35.
  6. mfluder

    Larry's AC50 Circus

    Curious thing is, the guy who made that bet with Me, hasn't been back since. Unless he's created SomeRandom new account lol
  7. mfluder

    Larry's AC50 Circus

    The beginning of September is 3 weeks away. Thats the answer.
  8. mfluder

    Larry's AC50 Circus

    I agreed to leave if there was no announcement by the beginning of September. Thats getting awfully close. Are you sure its going to be Me who leaves?
  9. mfluder

    Larry's AC50 Circus

    "Oracle never cheated in the "Americas Cup", sure they did in the World Series but that is completely different" Americas Cup, and Americas Cup World Series, the two are associated by brand. Cheating is cheating. Once a cheat, always a cheat. The problem is, why did he have to ruin the event to turn it into what it is today? Why didn't he either go through a challenger series and win the thing like the Kiwi's did. Or stay true to his word after the litigation? He dragged the event through the courts, only to go back on many of things he claimed to be fighting against. The only legacy that will come from Bermuda or San Fran, will be the liveline graphics, and that itself is due to Stan Honeys brilliance.
  10. mfluder

    Larry's AC50 Circus

    How many Defenders there are is irrelevant. RNZYS is the defender, their representative team is ETNZ, therefor, they defend. "Connor had to beat 2 other syndicates (or was it 3) to win the right to be defender. To do so he built 3 x 12m and selected Valentine's Liberty as the best option" Good for them, but Liberty was ultimately beaten by Australia II, so maybe if Connor spent more money on one defender, they might've retained the Cup. AC34 was a failure. Oracle may have won the Cup, under slightly questionable circumstances, but they lost their fan base, they were forced to move from their US base, to an overseas territory so what ever US fan base they had left, they lost when they moved to Bermuda. Jimmy and his Aussie team even had to release a team video reiterating and reassuring the US sports fans of the fact that they were "an American team". Say what you want, but no other Americas Cup team, let alone the Americas Cup defender, has been disqualified for cheating. Oracles win in AC34, to this day, among some, is still being debated, and rightly so. None of Team NZ's, or Emirates Team NZ's wins are questionable because they were so convincing. I prefer Richard Gladwells "Lone Wolf, how Emirates Team NZ stunned the world"
  11. mfluder

    Larry's AC50 Circus

    Two completely different things. One is a sailing team rumour regarding an existing team (at that time) and the other is rumour regarding something completely new, which requires huge logistical process, as well as huge money, multiple teams, new top end design, and a supposedly "confirmed" schedule that shows no signs what so ever of coming together. Apples and oranges my newbie friend.
  12. mfluder

    Larry's AC50 Circus

    Kiwi's going abroad to work isn't the problem. Aussies go abroad, Spaniards go abroad, Italians, Japanese, Chinese, French, they all go abroad, but they have to work for someone. Someones paying their hefty salaries, and that someone was Larry. It was his team, he only employed Coutts. Larry called the shots. Remember when Slingsby was meant to skipper the Oracle team in Bermuda, Spithill went straight to Larry, who apparently made the call to have Spithill on the helm. Larry called the shots, Larry decided the direction he wanted to take the event, he is responsible for the failure. Oracle won, yes, but I believe the word should be in "Questionable fashion" not "Dramatic fashion" the win, was, is, and always will be questionable.
  13. mfluder

    Larry's AC50 Circus

    Who needs multiple defenders? One Yacht club won the Cup, one team won the cup, one team beat all before them, one nation watched that team cross the finish line, so one team will defend. You obviously give a shit about it other wise you wouldn't come on an AC forum to comment about an AC team, about an AC defence, and/ or its AC fans, unless you're doing it purely to be an internet troll. Yes, us Kiwi's do get wrapped up in it, and thats because we know the most about it. 34 was a failure from an OTUSA perspective. ETNZ single handedly carried that regatta.
  14. mfluder

    Larry's AC50 Circus

    Even more curious is people saying "I've heard this" and "I've heard that", "I can confirm this", and "I can confirm that", yet nothing either official or unofficial online or offline at this stage. Nothing seen, no boats being built anywhere, no teams training together anywhere, no sponsors making noises, no TV networks trying to sell coverage in any market, no teams looking for sponsors or money, no venues trying to sell accommodation or hospitality, , no schedules, no notice of race, yet everything is supposed to be confirmed and the green light has been given? And its starting in February? Very curious.