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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. Living in SW Florida, draft is a huge factor that influences how viable a boat will be for cruising, sailing, and enjoying the areas where the shore and water meet. Draft can also be viewed as a safety factor as well, because if your boat draws too much, you may not be able to safely get through a pass (between Gulf to inland waters) when bad weather threatens, leaving you with some uncomfortable options as a result. But, mostly, deep draft limits your cruising destinations and routes. There are few shoal draft mono-hull cruising boats being built nowadays, and if there were it seems many would likely be ugly and expensive. So, this is my list of 30 shoal draft mono-hull sailboats I'd consider buying with the only stipulations being that they sail well (subjective), be larger than 25 feet, draw less than 5 feet, and that examples be found in reasonable (not zombie) condition for under $50,000. I'm sure there are some boats I've left on my list, and I'd enjoy seeing what designs you think would fill the bill. Again: Sails well (no sea pigs!) Longer than 25 feet. Draft less than 5 feet. Price below $50,000. No Multi-hulls.
  2. I'm back in MS Paint again. I prefer drawing rather than dragging. This is 1 hour (Yes, it is "full" forward - but it is fairly narrow.
  3. QUOTE: "On the other hand as I pointed out farther up thread, I think you could get some joy out of real drawing. Do you have a set of battens and ducks?" Not any more. I had some as a teenager that were a gift from a fellow named Joe Byers who dabbled in Yacht Design and lived nearby. I got my obligatory copy of Skenes's Elements of Yacht Design at age 14, and I hand drew many designs as teenager. I was basically trying to sway my parents to support my desire to work toward becoming a designer. But, my father was an engineer who had little respect for architects of any type, and my mother felt that being a Yacht Designer would not provide a decent living for me - that I needed a real job and could do yacht design as a fun thing later. (..Always later!) She used Joe Byers as an example of needing another "real" job, and I used him as an example of someone who was a responsible adult who drew boats and made money. We just didn't see eye to eye - but lots of kids and parents didn't. I'm 56 years old now. It's quite late. And, I'm not going to be a Yacht Designer. But, I do get great enjoyment from drawing boats. It used to take me about a 8-10 days to hand draw a set of hull lines - and a LOT of erasing along the way. But there was a great sense of satisfaction to see the shape I had in mind being replicated onto paper. I liked the process as much as the result. I liked stepping back, walking around, and looking at the line I just drew from all sorts of angles - and being happy when the result was always good. MS Paint is no faster - but the erasing is less eroding.
  4. What would be cool to see is someone develop is a computer program that practically replicates manual drawing in it's operation. Give me the ability to draw a grid ...set stations ...bend a spline ..and draw a line. Make my blank screen a piece of paper, and let me draw. That's what I do with paint - but I can't show anything in 3D, or get any of the other cool products a real design program offers. Otherwise, I need some good training and education on the efficient operation of these various programs because to become proficient while being self-taught takes a LOT of time. I'm too busy sailing and doing other things to develop the proficiency I'd need on my own. I need to see if the local community college has a course I can audit. I bet 10 hours of instruction would replace 2 years of fiddling around.
  5. I like wide asses on narrow boats.
  6. I find the drawing process to be odd. I can't really draw what I want to draw - I just end up with something that is "acceptable". I can draw A boat, but not so much the boat i WANT to draw because the program seems to only allow variations on a set shape. Here is a boat I drew - which looks very little like what I wanted to draw when I sat down. But the process of moving around and tweaking leads me to lose the big picture and focus on the action that will make the shape "work". The result is a boat shape - but far from the boat I wanted to draw. If that makes any sense at all?
  7. So, I have had some time to play around with the Delftship program. I have managed to draw a boat - but it is not the boat that I wanted to draw. I do not enjoy the process of dragging points to create shapes - I'd like to draw what I want to draw. The program begins with a basic shape that you must alter - and that basic shape sorta sets the design. Sure you can tweak it (wider, deeper, volume aft , etc.), but the program is really driving the shape. Are there any free design programs that let me draw? I have an idea in my head that I'd like to translate into a drawing, but Delftship seems to limit my range of shapes. I end up with something that is rather pleasant looking, but far removed from what I wanted.
  8. ..It was a suggestion because the OP said: "My issue is not necessarily size but having an inboard auxiliary. I am getting too old to hang over the transom messing with the engine and bracket" For him, it could have made sense.
  9. If your Catalina 25 is the wing keel or fin keel version, I have seen one that have had an inboard saildrive installed as a retro-fit. It would be expensive, but cheaper than a new boat.
  10. Mine is not original. Not sure where or when it arrived on board. It's probably from when the boat was in Michigan because nobody in salt water would add mild steel hardware like that. I'm thinking about swapping it out for something like this aluminum unit by Garelick for around $150.00.
  11. There ya go! It is located in North Carolina already. He could by it for cheaper than a Precision 23, and it draws more so he will learn what 4'-3" of draft means for cruising on Pamlico Sound. After two years of ownership, he could probably sell it for whatever he paid for it. Excellent find "B.C." !