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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. I'm talking 2 different situations ( grounded Bene and non sailing damage of multi)both with builders and insurance involved but one the builder refused to comment and hence the outcome where the insurance company says we wont insure it. The other ( multi hull beam) the insurance company went with the builders view for obvious reasons Both are safety issues I'm sure if it was a hole punched in the side there would be no questions on repairing?
  2. If you see what the offshore shipping/structure paint suppliers are saying, it looks like epoxy is on its way out. They call it an adhesive not paint. They all have mcu paints now. Epoxy has to be very thick to be waterproof and then you get issues because its becomes brittle after a while which is why the industrial marine paint guys have moved away from it.
  3. Correct Thanks
  4. I shouldnt have said right off, as you pointed out thats a monetary decision. I meant not repairable, meaning not safely. Just had a beam on a multi that was in accident. Local accessor says it repairable, factory says safelty issue its not repairable. Guess what insurance did?
  5. post a photo of the steering
  6. the epoxy will certainly trap any moisture on your existing paint assuming its not waterproof? and unless your epoxy has UV inhibitor in it, it wont survive in the sun, its hard not tough
  7. My contact in the UK tells me they tried and bene said nothing hence the underwriters said sorry good bye. Who is going to risk/put their name to a 40.7 repair after grounding now? You end up in court and Bene get called in and say well as far as we can see from the photos our expert opinion is it was a right off.
  8. Sure its fixable but the insurance guys need to hear it from the builder/designer that its fixed.
  9. Its only yachts that have a problem with lost containers so its not really a problem
  10. Tough call to retire i hear they might have sailed a course that took longer to sail. That kind of puts it in the mistake category and not cheating
  11. Its a dash with new forward deck and ama's as far as I can see?
  12. Ben hit the hull because he couldnt get the backstay..lol
  13. There was/is a 40.7 in the uk that is in the uninsurable camp unless bene come up with a repair manual? Its cheap...
  14. so after all this, can you insure a 40.7 if the surveyor says it has hit the bottom?
  15. just sailed on the one that was in Singapore until it was cut in half by a ship, never out of sight of land or a distance I didnt think I could swim On the other hand 44.7's are built very well, seen a few bouncing on their keels without any issue. i'd cross an ocean in one of those.