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  1. pwormwood

    Honeycomb too delicate for cruising?

    After having been involved with Nomex cored Stiletto catamarans for around 40 years, I would absolutely have a Nomex cored cruising boat if I could afford it. I have seen and been a part of major crashes and the resulting repairs. The repairs are no more difficult than any proper repair to a cored structure. The current Stiletto that we have is over 30 years old and is every bit as strong and stiff as the day that it was built. If you use phenolic resin infused Nomex, water can only migrate to cells opened by the damage. I have no experience and cannot speak about other honeycomb cores.
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    Is The Thrill Gone?

    Summer sailing on the west coast of Florida is like frostbiting up north during the winter - only the crazies do it. Spring & fall are the sailing seasons, with winter for the more hard core. No matter the season, it helps to have a boat appropriate for the mostly shallow, mostly light wind conditions. With that in mind, I have happily sailed various multihulls on the west coast of Florida for over a half a century. My current ride is a Weta, crewed by my dog. Compared to the bigger boats that I've spent most of my life on, it's like playing with a go-cart.
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    Front Page, "Get your Kicks."

    The boats were originally a cat rig. I sailed the first one with Roy Seaman in one of the Ensenada races. We rigged a jib on it, with a tack bridle to the hulls. Sometime during the night we noticed that the load on the tack bridle was pulling the bows together and the sterns apart - the rear beam slowly sliding out from under the straps that held it to the hulls. We had running backstays with blocks & tackle for tensioning; so I took the leeward one apart and use the block & tackle across the back of the boat, to pull the sterns back together. It worked, and I think that we may have been first to finish. Roy used to keep the boat on a mooring in the kelp, just under the point north of Malibu Beach.
  4. Young America is sitting at the Herreshoff Museum/America's Cup Hall of Fame in Bristol, RI
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    Team NYYC

    Damn, you're right! Oh, the agonizing irony for NZ if that happened...again.
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    Carbon3 trimaran coming to Hong Kong

    In both light and heavy wind - "When in doubt, sheet out."
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    Larry's AC50 Circus

    So, the organizers and participants are going to spend millions and years of their life on a series just to spite New Zealand?! Frankly, I don't think that the financial backers or the sailors waste their time thinking like that, so I disagree with you. That kind of thinking is not how you become wealthy or a world class sailor - there's just not time for it. Since evidence indicates that they are moving ahead with the series, there must be a more positive reason than pouting over not getting their chosen boat for the AC. Not related (but maybe it is...), I wonder how much more/less a one design F50 would be to build and campaign than a custom TP52, if they raced similar series.
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    Larry's AC50 Circus

    While it has become incredibly clear over the years that these forums would not survive without the ongoing dedicated support of the conspiracy theorists, the simple truth about this series may be that the boats are actually as cool to sail as they are to watch; and some of those closest to them weren't quite ready to quit sailing them and toss them onto the waste heap of history. Somehow the J-boats and 12 meters continue to have regattas without being associated with the America's Cup. Stars, Tornadoes and Solings continue to race without the Olympics. So it is possible that, like those classes, there will be ongoing support and financing for racing the 50's because the players enjoy it. Given that the boat is the 4th iteration of an America's Cup multihull (Stars & Stripes, Dogzilla, the AC 72, the AC 50...) it's got to have some fairly well developed chops. Creating a 2.0 version of it for one design racing could make it nothing but better still. So, why turn our back on it, as if it never existed. Personally, I think that they will be way more fun to watch fleet racing than just two boats match racing...
  9. Peter, here is proof that Randy, not Tommy, invented what is now called the Hybrid Wing. I found this in my file cabinet today. Article on page 91 of Waterfront, February 1985.




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    what is it?

    Incorrect - The 360 degree rotating wing mast was thought up and created by Tommy Gonzalez, FFC's president. Randy helped him develop it
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    I was sailing on a Tripp designed Mercer 44 from St. Petersburg when Improbable came to town for the SORC. We rated about the same, and I remember Improbable just sailing away. That was my first experience with what being out-designed meant.
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    new stiletto? any news on this cat?

    Totally agree with the comments about the excessive use of expensive high tech materials in production boats. The fact that the original Stiletto 27 is still a fun boat to sail makes that point. It is a 30 year old design with an antique hull shape, rig and foils; with heave aluminum pipes for beams and absolutely no carbon anywhere. In spite of all of that, the boats are still actively sailed, raced, and desired. The lessons learned at Stiletto should be text book reading for anyone wanting to bring a multihull to market. First of all, although everyone wants a 'fast' boat, only about 10% of the product line will be raced. When Stiletto had built 200 boats, 20 showed up at the Nationals. When 300 boats were built, 30 showed up. Yes, some racers didn't make it, but some of the cruisers did, to take their place. So, do you create your product for the 10% performance-at-all-cost crowd or the 90% fast-is-fun-and-I-want-to-take-my-family-and-friends crowd?! The second crowd will be more swayed by a reasonable price than the bragging rights of having a carbon boat. Interestingly, the Stiletto hull layup weighed 0.6#/sq ft generally (except in built up structural areas). That's pretty light for 30 year old technology, that doesn't include carbon. Original Stiletto also did a good job of recognizing that some of their customers were tinkerers who wanted to upgrade and modify their boats by creating a separate 'Modified' class for racing events. That was the place for carbon masts and foils (and, at the time, spinnakers and upwind well as sailmakers and other pros).
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    Oracle Team USA

    So, you guys are still standing atop the dead horse, flailing away...WOW! I always wondered what not having a life looked like....
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    laugh or cry?

    OK - How is it that the fishermen were professional mariners, there to feed their families, and the crew of Vestas were not? The fishermen were there to catch fish to either feed their families directly, or through selling the fish. The sailors were there to feed their families through the pay checks they receive from their employer to advertise Vestas' products. Both parties were professional mariners, doing work at sea to earn a living. Neither should be held above the other. If you think the sailors were out for a lark, having fun that night, you've never been in a long open ocean race. As professional sailors, tasked with doing everything that they could do to win, it makes total sense to ask for redress - I certainly would have. Otherwise, I would not be giving my employer full measure for his pay. Whether or not I should receive redress is up to the jury - that's their job. Mine, as the pro sailor, is to ask. AND, having approached many a harbor from sea at night in adverse conditions, I'm totally amused by what I read here about what I should be able to see - looking from a dark and rough sea at a horizon filled with lights. Anyone who has actually been there knows that, for all your best efforts at keeping watch, there is an extremely high likelihood something will suddenly appear, that you'd swear wasn't there before. So maybe, just maybe, some of you should climb down off your high horse and show some compassion and understanding for and of BOTH crews in this incident.
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    while it has become apparent that the AC has become a competition between corporations, rather than yacht clubs, I find it hard to root for a corporation. Even though I did not like how Oracle went about their business, as an American, I found myself hoping they'd do well because of the flag on the wing. Similarly, since the American skippered Vestas took themselves out of the Volvo, I find that I've lost interest in the event. So, apparently, nationality matters to some of spite of the foibles of the teams themselves.