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  1. Artemis?

    That's quite impressive for the first day on the water. Still a lot of work to do no doubt but it looks very encouraging.
  2. Artemis?

    Also just noticed the bowsprit looks like jib only? And from other pics it looks like a self tacker. Definitely a lot of design mods from ETNZ.
  3. Artemis?

    One of the first things I noticed, too. I wonder if they plan to add some aero decking behind the front beam and under the wing similar to ETNZ/LR? That may also depend on how they measure.
  4. Artemis?

    Nice to see it all together!
  5. Artemis?

    My interpretation of "hopes to be back out on the water by next weekend" is that they would be training rather than racing, but it's a pretty vague statement.
  6. Artemis?

    The interesting bit out of all that was Artemis "capsized" when the wind was 11mph gusts 17mph Woah, not good at all. That's just 9.6 - 14.8knts, not even half the original limits. They had been out in stronger winds several times. From this vid you can tell they were really pushing it that day:
  7. Artemis?

    Here's an idea, allow AR to build their new wing to whatever height/size they feel is safe for their platform, and keep the windspeeds at the revised agreed upon limits. Any weight savings from a presumably smaller wing could be re-used in the beams.
  8. Artemis?

    That's great. Maybe we'll see some tow testing out on the water soon? Look forward to seeing the changes and mods they've done from B1.
  9. Artemis?

    Since AR has a good idea of how their B1 rates against OR1, I would think they'd be more interested in lineups with OR2 or the challengers if that's allowed? I wonder how much practice racing we'll see between teams before the LVC starts? Are there rules that prevents this within a certain time-frame of the LVC?
  10. Artemis?

    Very impressive. Nathan is really making that 45 dance on it's first day out! Definitely shows the importance of helm/crew skill. Can't wait to see what they can do with the 72!
  11. Artemis?

    ^ Someone posted on youtube "USA beat them by 600m over 3miles... apparently". I watched the St.Fran webcam during the testing and the difference in speed & angle was pretty dramatic at times when OR were up on the foils. I thought for sure that AR was sandbagging, but this pretty much disproves that theory.
  12. Artemis?

    ^ Lol, that's great stuff! One more depiction of OR 17.1 for the timeline:
  13. Artemis?

    Google tubercles Paul Bieker. This, for instance: http://perryboat.sai...start-here.html Very interesting. Thanks for the link. It's always interesting when designers use nature for ideas. The top speed of the humpback whale is 27km/h according to: http://www.speedofan...umpback_whale If I were designing a high-speed fin/foil, I'd look at similarities between the fastest swimmers in the ocean: http://www.top10stop...astest-swimmers
  14. Artemis?

    I wondered the same thing. Perhaps he was either encouraging them to fully foil, or maybe he was strongly against it and they felt that was holding them back? Shortly after he left (Nov 30) the winglets appeared on the rudders (update #3 Dec 3). Peyron mentioned in their update #6 video that their next set of boards will be a lot better for the lifting effect. I'm still not 100% convinced that they won't try it. Perhaps some of it depends on how their line ups go with OR over the next few weeks?
  15. Artemis?

    Thanks for the first hand observations. I watched it on the St. Francis YC webcam and it looked pretty close until OR started foiling downwind. Found this image of the reverse heel you described: