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Claire1000

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  1. 2017 Centerboard Circuit of Texas

    Charlie- after my experience “racing” last weekend I wonder if a WL course could be avoided for us? Probably not, but won’t be fun for anyone to wait on us that long.
  2. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    I never bothered taking photos because I didn’t think they would be useful. Straps all over and it worked. We ran a strap all the way over the boat and back to the truck about even with the mast hole. Then another strap all the way across the back. Then one around each hull and down again up front. Then one to each righting rope and back to truck. Then one around the mast hole to th front rack bar. Basically we just strapped the snot out of it and it went fine going 70. I do like the little side stopper things we have from Yakima. After 4 trips, I will say I think a trailer is a better idea. I just don’t like it up there in all the wind and it’s way up high and a pita to take off and on. Once we get to the point where we aren’t also taking a chase boat with us I would like to build a little trailer which will be super easy as it’s bascislly a flat bed. If you still want pics lemme know but it’s just straps everywhere. We focused on making sure the front didn’t lift up na fly off.
  3. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    In hindsight I should have just forgotten the race and played with the boat and hung out with Brig and Dave, but my goal was to finish a race and I just worked toward that. I’m sure I learned a lot just being on the boat. I had one “decent” tack. I have no idea how. I don’t think the boat will ever be great at doing a traditional tack so do need to adjust my expectations on what a tack is. You do have to just reach out and push the boom aggressively. Heisman for sure. Then once you get the nose down enough sheet in aggressively. I also spent more than enough time figuring out how to get out of irons. I don’t have small boat experience so that took me a bit Theo and Brig didn’t have this issue. Theo chased me in a rib and said my biggest problem was getting overpowered, going into lean mode like on a Hobie, and not doing enough (anything) with the sheet to fix it I tried to hike and or pinch my way flat and that just didn’t do anything. The extra 6” of main is a great tip to grab below the knot. Thanks Charlie.
  4. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    Rough day on the water today. Made one lap but didn’t finish a race. The one lap was slow. Half the speed of the others. Never could get the leeward hull out of the water. I didn’t crash or hit another boat. Never felt out of control when not foiling and was able to sail around 30+ other boats without any issues. So that’s good. But we don’t know how to set the boat up and that’s frustrating. And I think our forward pin issue is causing legitimate problems. Other than that, it’s also hard to sail this boat and I have a lot to learn. I did have a few moments of glory going downwind. Hit the next gear for 3-5 seconds. I was aggressive on the sheet and didn’t capsize to windward once (but had a few acrobatic saves for sure). I’m glad I’m short, have short legs, and am athletic. To wind was a mess. Just couldn’t get it to point. I think first have have to get it on foils, then head up. This sounds easy and is not easy. We had I am assuming near perfect wind. 12-16 kts. Shoes help, I want knee protection, and I need to sheet a lot more and steer a lot less. She bucked me off good once, and it’s definiteltly fun/scary when it really leaps up. So many things in my head can’t even sort em. Probably 3 hours on the boat today.
  5. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    Good thought on the rudder. Ideas? Maybe threads through the hole? Can someone even explain to me what the rear angle does? I mean obviously controls the rear lift, but is this set to my weight? Wind speed? Wand height? All Equally? Mostly one but the others too?
  6. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    Marked the wand at 25" (half way) then every 3 inches and a vertical mark to set it straight.
  7. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    Had an awesome sail yesterday in Waco also. Winds right around 10kts. 1. Definitely want to add a mark on the back of the wand so we can make sure it's twisted correctly.. Also want to add vertical marks. I suggest we maybe all try to come up with some standard so we can work together and figure out settings. Something like measure 18" up from bottom of wand, then marks every 3" or something. We use a small piece of electrical tape to keep from losing the wand and that's worked. Had back screw about 1/8" through the hole toward the front of the boat. Seemed about right for my 135lbs. 2. Upwind was awesome. I'm a fairly experienced pilot, and I found it to be very similar to steep turns in a wood spared plane, you can really feel the flex and how one adjustment affects all 3 axis. Don't let that make you think some pilot skills are needed at all. I wasn't working very hard. I was wanting to weigh more, and couldn't get the windward heel thing to happen, but didn't want to mess up my beautiful success so just focused on keeping her going. Not sure if when overpowered should head off or ease main, but played with both and had a blast. The boat "sings" to you which is really beautiful. I had the wand a little less than half way and hummed the hulls just at the top of the water for probably a good 3-4 minute reach. Quads were burning. Wish I had the wand higher, but it was an excellent designed training wheel mode and was probably right in hindsight. 3. Downwind I have no idea what to do and she bucked me off 3 times. Quite fun, never scary or painful. Let go of the tiller! I couldn't right the boat alone (though I didn't try too hard as we wanted to sail before the wind left us). . A little righting line like Charlie shows worked great. I find it hilarious that we got home and talked about sharing some sort of marking system for the wand and a righting line, and the downwind stuff, and then boom- Charlie said ALL the same stuff. So that's good. Truck rack worked well. Went 50mph, no issues. Will take pictures of final straps. Took some good pictures, then jumped into lake with phone...so sorry. Can't wait to get back at it. Going to a regatta this weekend but doubt we will make it around the course, which is fine. The boat is not super fun in displacement mode so 10kts is where the fun begins. Claire ps- We are still sailing on a screwdriver, because our front multihole foil holder things are not aligned. This puts the front foil strut at an angle, not sure if that affects the sailing much. We did get the broken screw that holds those blocks down removed (after many hours with a drill press), and used a bolt to put it back on. Haven't heard back from Kirk (who I think is who we should contact), but I know they are at the boat show this week.
  8. 2017 Centerboard Circuit of Texas

    We are signed up. So hoping to complete one lap. Everyone stay the heck away from us. =-)
  9. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    I started to do this yesterday. May need some giant sticker to remind myself to stay away. We did accidentally hit the wand with our chase boat and put a dimple in the foil...so we need to put that protector plate on there.
  10. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    Haven't quite figured that out. Because the boat's not super far forward, I don't think we are going to mess with a strap over the front. I am very cautious about this as I am in the car business and we have had a few customers rip their roof racks off with kayaks because they didn't use front/bow straps/bridles. But...I think this is different because the boat isn't long and you don't have a large lifting force creating a long moment arm on the rack. The lifting force (where the main portion of the hull is) is directly over where the tie downs can attach to the truck. We will test and see, but that's our plan for now. Once we do something that works (we are driving to Dallas next weekend to hopefully race True North) will report. The little side stops seem like real good solutions for left right movement prevention. Also, the rack is so high, we can put the foils on while it's on the truck. Which was helpful for figuring out our pin problem.
  11. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    I pause to post this here, because I prefer when customers discuss issues with me privately first, but since this is not an unhappy issue and we will all be figuring out these boats a together, and Dave and Steve have been very awesome with public discussions... The reason our front foil pin won't go in appears to be a manufacturing issue. The little black pieces with all the holes aren't square to each other. They are about 1/8" off. Assuming the large black insert for the entire thing is square with the boat, the pin is clearly at an angle which puts the strut at and angle. Even without the strut the pin won't go in the two multi holed blocks with McLube. You can also just visually tell. I thought maybe it's not glued down, so went to undue the screws holding the black top parts with all of the holes in them down. On of the screws immediately broke off. I like to think I'm strong, but I'm a sorta little woman that was perched on a truck, so I didn't get much torque on it. Maybe has something to do with the angle and that led to the screw breaking? The other side's screws came right off, but the black part is glued down pretty tight. Should we try to pop off the top part with all the holes? If so how? If we do, we can redrill it, but that's going to put the new hole too close to the old hole. We could use bolts instead of screws and washers and nuts? Any other ideas? I will send Dave/Kirk an email also. Claire and Theo and #20
  12. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    I can’t figure out how to do images. So they are in that tips Google doc at the bottom. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q1W-dATx_QTq5XPyLWv7PcFnwU4EbmFOBxnck7PQJwU/edit?usp=sharing
  13. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    We bought a Yakima outdoorsman to put the boat on top of my truck. We were worried about finding a wide enough rack and didn’t have the boat dimensions. We got the 78” crossbars and the “load stops” the black L shaped stops you see. Wanted to still be able to tow while moving the UFO. Also looked at making a trailer mount for on top of our RIB but that was pricy and just wanted to start here. Husband and I had no problem getting it up there. We had to offset it because we didn’t want it resting on the upright bump. Not perfect but seems to work.
  14. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    Awesome. Super helpful. Love the name Heisman tack Many insight on getting the forward main foil pin in? Trying hard not to get the drill out but can’t figure out how to get it in there.
  15. Steve and Dave Clarks Unidentified Foiling Object

    We do not have a problem with our rudder being too loose. We have the opposite. Maybe it will loosen. Got #20 on the water for about 3 hours. We never figured out how to get the main foil pin in. We gave up and used a screwdriver. We had 8kts wind. Never got it on the foils but had some up pressure. Learned a good bit. Bear in mind we have zero clue what we are doing, no idea how to set the boat up, and I’m a so-so sailor. Husband is a bit better. We needed more lift from the foils. Will adjust and play. Not sure if we should start with more wand height or more rudder angle. Rigging went much better. Tacking I’m a mess. Fun evening and can’t wait to try it again. I was surprised how much Theo “sinks” the boat when sitting still. He’s 185. Moving no issue.