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  1. Now that we are immersed in the awesome performances of giant trimarans, a technical design question nags my mind. We all know that the longer the LWL the better it is due to hull speed, wave making resistance etc for displacement hulls and displacement speeds. For these trimarans which have very narrow hulls in contact with water and are predominently above hull speeds (call it surfing, piercing, foiling, airborne, waterborne) the LWL should be insignificant as we know it. On the other hand you are increasing wetted surface and skin friction. So the question is; How does the size of the hulls ultimately determines the speed potential? Except for load carrying capacity which you need to have to provision even a solo sailor why do you need to go bigger and bigger? Or do you? Does this have anything to do with the subject of 'Similarity' in fluid mechanics? That is, the density of water and air behaves differently and are not similar compared to the size of the body travelling through it. My argument is; once you are not bound with the conventional notion of bigger is better in terms of LWL, what becomes the next most important parameter? For food of thought, A tiny Lear Jet can attain the same speed as an Airbus 340. Once you are airborne or water borne size is no longer is an issue.
  2. Macif / Gabart / Jules Verne 2017-18

    Rumb line looked much better to me too.Whats the point of producing negative VMG for such a long time. Is it because a decision is made and he cannot afford to go back. He seems to be heading towards a troublesome area too.
  3. Macif / Gabart / Jules Verne 2017-18

    Where can we see the actual conditions he is sailing in. Any videos, onboard recordings etc?
  4. Macif / Gabart / Jules Verne 2017-18

    Fascinating boats and fascinating effort for the challenger and defender. It really doesnt matter whether the record is broken or not. İn my eyes both guys are heros. What also intigues me is, despite the best boats, best guys and best strategies, how much of all this boils down to the nature and luck. I have a feeling that no matter how you excel in every controllable parameter, the wind patterns and strength prevailing at the time surpasses everything else.
  5. Five months "adrift"?!?

    Maybe i missed it. Did anybody ask how much fuel they had onboard? ( A years supply 7/24 at full throttle?) Even if the engine was working, where did they expect to reach with a full tank at best.
  6. Five months "adrift"?!?

    Dodgy Dames Stupidly Travel The World.
  7. Five months "adrift"?!?

  8. Coolboats to admire

    You guys amaze me with your estimates of upkeeping costs. O.K. am not a US citizen and i am not used to calculating everything on the basis of hiring someone who has to earn 150.000 dollars a year just doing brightwork. If you own a boat as such (someone mentioned correctly that she probably owns you!) you probably spend more time messing about her than actually sailing. How much does it cost to spend 20 hours yourself with a gallon or too of varnish and a few brushes? If you are incapable of doing it yoursef, or if you do not enjoy carressing her with your brush, perhaps you shoud not own her in the first place. I can almost hear some of you thinking if i spend 20 hours of my own time on it, that also translates to so many dollars i earn per hour. My answer to it that you shoud not calculate it on that basis. If you have to make a calculation, think how much good this provides to your physical and mental health which otherwise you would be spending on your shrink, medical care, insurance and all the boose and drugs to stay on top.
  9. Coolboats to admire

    There is another lovely moored just ahead and to the port of PIERA. (From the first pic.) Wish you could check that out for us too if she is still there.
  10. My newest project

    May be because the photo is not taken from sea level. Or perhaps the boom is not horizontal in the top picture above that it looked higher than it is.
  11. Coolboats to admire

    What is that thingy hanging off the bow?
  12. My newest project

    Bob, is the boom slightly higher than we are accustomed to? And If yes, is there a specific reason for that?
  13. Irma

    The upper right boat is interesting. The bottom half of the mast is still there with the boom, whereas the top half is gone. even if she collided with another boat drifting past, i would expect to see a buckled mess of mast and rigging.If she lost the forestay and all that first, you would still have a mast buckled but somewhat attached to the stays. Her mast and rigging seems to be cut by a razor. The force of the wind must be such that the windage of the mast rips it of clean where it is buckled together with all the rigging. Truly amazing. Any other ideas as to how this had happened?
  14. Irma

    Are there any videos showing how those big catamarans are flipping over and flying hundreds of meters? I would love to witness the strength of the wind from that angle.
  15. Irma

    No chance for self insurance. There are not enough items and not enough time to accumulate that fund. Unless you have 50.000 of a specimen to insure for, and 10 years between mean time failure, you cannot match the current system. It is all about theory of large numbers. İmagine you have a fleet of 1.000 boats, each worth 100.000 dollars. You have an exposure of 100.000.000 dollars. If you have a risk of loosing 50 percent of them in just catastrophic risks in ten years (which is highly optimistic) you need to create a 50.000.000 dollars fund in ten years. Which corresponds to 5.000 dollars per boat per year. This may not seem unreasonable at first sight. But do not forget that this is only for cathastrophic losses. You need just as much for mundane losses. And if this is not scary enough, imagine you got cought five years from now and loose 50 percent of 100 M dollars, where your funds barely reach 25.