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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Has anyone checked out the weather forecast for next weekend, from my chair it appears I need to go dust off the 6A? Aboard the SC 50 Horizon it is all about preparing for this years Trans Pac and it appears we will be getting some good practice in. "You have to play to win."
  2. Contact http://www.doublewave.com. John will take care of you.
  3. To bad they just did not go with the Club Swan 50's they will have resale value, have to think that the cost of the boat is miniscule to the cost of a three year sailing program.
  4. I thought merely working for a company didn't put you in group 3. However, the coach part would even if it is occasionally. I don't think this answers the OP questions. But this has been my concern with todays World Sailings definition of "Pro Sailor". I sell racing sailboats therefore I am a Cat 3 pro. I also sell Sport fisher power boats and do not know how to bait a hook. Under this example I am also a pro fisherman. This is why I feel the local fleets should define and determine the pro status.
  5. How do class rules help PHRF, ORC, etc? Not everyone being paid to sail (to win) is sailing OD... I consider PHRF, ORC, and ORR a class that can be governed by their local and district boards.
  6. Of the questions asked: 1. What can or should be done about people who lie about being paid to race when they register with ISAF Sailor. 2 The owners who falsely register sailors they pay as Group 1 sailors? 3. What are the flaws in the system? 4. Would there be a better system and if so what would it be? I feel strong class rules have come the closest to answering most of these questions. The definition of a professional sailor should be defined clearly in the class rules, rather than differing to an outside authority. An owner driver rule along with a crew participation rule during fleet or championship regattas might solve many of these questions. For the major regattas the owner would submit his crew list, for example the crew would have had to sailed in four regattas that season to participate in the major events. Should the owner need to fill an open spot they would petition the class board to allow the perspective crew members. This concept will increase participation throughout the sailing season by allowing the lower skilled crew members to participate in the major events and keep owners from stacking their crew. Which I feel is the flaw in the system. ‚ÄčIt still comes down to getting involved with your local fleets be it one-design, handicapped racing or volunteering for race management.
  7. A buyers survey and a "stem to stern" survey are the same thing and what the OP is looking for. The other type of survey is a limited survey often used for an insurance claim if damage has occurred. Most (maybe all) boat insurance companies will require a recent complete buyers survey if you plan on buying a boat and having it insured. A buyers survey can also be very useful for things other than to "nickel and dime" the seller, for instance uncovering big cost items which may not be apparent to either the seller or buyer who are both emotionally involved in the transaction. Buying a boat without a survey has the potential to be like dating a super hot girl who seemed so normal at first but after a while and when it's too late you realize she's bat shit crazy. Your definition of a "Buyers Survey" is different than mine. This term has been used when describing an inflated recommendation and CG violations list.
  8. Your description of a "buyers surveyor" just makes me shake my head in disbelief. All the best surveyors only have one way of inspecting a vessel and that is from stem to stern, providing you with the ships specifications then listing their findings and recommendations. Should you wish to nickel and dime the seller after inspections will be up to you and how much you want the boat. Best wishes.
  9. Horizon (481.0) Santa Cruz 50 Jack Taylor 16 Jul 2010 22:01:39 HST 8d 11:46:39 - 1 1 First to Finish. Winner, 2010 Pacific Cup. Navigator Award awarded to Jon Shampain. Latitude 38 Performance Trophy ETA for J World 8 days, say shit! I thought the nine day mark would be a barn burner.
  10. It appears that the SC 50 J World could set a new record to Hawaii for a SC 50. Tom what is Horizons best time?
  11. Between the Swan Club 50 and the Hinckley Bermuda 50 which one would you think would sailing to it's rating the easiest in a Southern California point to point race?
  12. How would " Good Jew Jew" work in Marina del Rey?
  13. Scot, I think I know where we lost 15 seconds that race?
  14. len - the boys deserve it. but us sailing giving anything to a boat associated with me? over jack gerhart's dead body. The boat, the boys, the press= good stuff for sailing.
  15. Reads like we have the winner of the http://www.ussailing.org/racing/offshore-big-boats/big-boat-safety-at-sea/hanson-rescue-medals/ Thats quite the crew you had onboard, sailed with Mel to Hawaii last year. Just wish we could have hung on to you guys in the breeze. Regards Len Bose Horizon