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  1. J/88

    I really like J boats by in large, but just don't see that this can do what the J92 and especially J92s could not achieve. IN the USA though, this could be a good OD - the inboard and kids forepeak for cruising is better than the j80 , all be this with a "dunnhie" which is a bit public.
  2. J/88

    I'm sure it will make a great OD in the US. Does it only have two berths? That is a bit sth-oo-p-hid! UK / EU owners are more likely to get a j97- if they are J customers from before moving up or down - or Johnstone noobs looking for more IRC results and better cruising IMHO. It will Go the way of the 92 and 92s. There are now plenty of designs which are cheaper around 26-31 feet with big sail area, and the 88 is not trailer legal anyway
  3. J/88

    On the rudder- if you can't have a square top, have a square bottom ( there was a big thread on spitfire wing tips - the Mark xx had sqaure which were stiffer in the diving turn, while the curved ones gave more lift and better maneurvrability) We shouldn't drag the nice USA prospective owners of what may well be a great J of the j27 ilk soon into a UK/ EU shit fight... but since Blur in Sweden started it... This is probably what the J80 should have been. For UK sailors it is a shame that the J80 did not get a large class going with several centres around the place, and since you can sleep on it a bit, they would still be being sailed versus the Cork 1720 which are notable by their absence now! Cost wise in the USA I would think that 29 feet with a reasonable draught is maybe going to make up a lot for the high asking price per foot, but our Hamble/ Solent pals will tell you that it is not that much of a saving compared to running a used j109 in a marina. Looking forward to some vid's of her moving though
  4. 59er XX

    Was the 59er Frank's last boat design? Looking forward to reading higher performance sailing on the dark winter nights, on the xmas list. His spirit lives on- great to see a revival in the tasar ! Perhaps the 59er could be sold as a training package with both the Xx rig and the standard one to schools, sports institutes and rich clubs? You could sail three up with both rigs, instructor on board.
  5. 59er XX

    Would be interesting to see it with the XX rig - a 39er reborn JB? I reckon the 59er with standard rig, could find a very good niche as a trainer boat for youth , with a single or even double trap and the instructor sitting on the bench /side.
  6. 59er XX

    Looking forward to getting a copy of the late, great Frank Bethwaite's posthumous update "higher performance sailing" The 59er development features a lot in this http://books.google.no/books?id=iQQoAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA234&lpg=PA234&dq=59er+spinnaker&source=bl&ots=5RVOUuo1mx&sig=ZRdjPL0izsiM6MHkhSwnKBbq168&hl=no&sa=X&ei=WV9UUqWEJeeS4ATz_4HgBw&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=59er%20spinnaker&f=false And you can read how well it does across the wind range in the hands of experts here, wrtitten by FB too http://www.members.shaw.ca/raspencer/news/2001/vision.html
  7. 59er XX

    To answer Op: it depends what you have sailed before, what your winds are on average and as said above, if you sail on a puddle in regular force fives then you are going to need wheels not a square top main. The boat sails faster than wind speed and you need to bear away a wee tad I think the 59er is a fanatstic bit of kit, pleasure to have a days sailing in one with Dave Hall (now of Rondar i believe).It is more stable than a 29er, infact we sailed in gusts of over 20 knts and it was more stable than a tasar due to the gust responsive top mast, opening top down as it should. The wetted area is more developed for performance through the wind range than the b14 and other 9ers, witth Frank taking average club winds across the world into account. It is way,way quick in light winds apparently and a blast in more. Much easier and lighter to sail in over 14 knts than an Rs 400 which i have done many hours as crew and helm. Whether or not that nice rocker and chine design will get used with a different upstairs is a different question; as Gybsie says they design boats as a complete system with payload in mind. Julian B would probably reply if you send him an e mail, but i would get a test sail on the one for sale with the owner to feel how great the original is. Pm me if you want
  8. Some of my old sailing photos 2

    Very cool flic DF, thanks for putting that up. My guess would be mid-60s or possibly up to early 70s considering there might not be any brand-new boats in the fleet. I saw one reversed transom and some nylon shell jackets that don't look like 1950s stuff. Kinda ruins the fun looking for technical stuff instead of just enjoying the scenes. FB- Doug Thanks, I enjoyed it immensely, glued for the whole hour! did the Tobermory race in the 1990s with a couple of classics left amongst the fleet. I know a couple of the sailors, all in their 70s / 80s now. I think c1966-7 judging by the cars and the nylon jackets. There is no usual BBC MXMXCCC stuff at the end.
  9. J/88

    Apart from Johnson Inc liking drawing new boats, can someone explain to me why the j88 has come into existence when the j92S is a smidgeon bigger and established? Thanks for sharing: It does show the boat off nicely, a bit like a mini j125 IMHO. I hear youse are Danish, hope this wasn't a spy mission for a new mini Xp ;-) Whatever, the boat will be very enjoyable for those who bite and typical of J assy's relatively easy to sail.
  10. Some of my old sailing photos 2

    Classic angle on Victory!! Now for something a little different- any one know the year ?
  11. J/88

    Overpriced IMHO.
  12. newbie bowman tips

    Never get off the bow. Hallelujah. I should be born again. I sail on a schMelges and stay off the bow at all costs. I hope berry hallifonte enjoys it more than the pit and cleaning the heads.
  13. newbie bowman tips

    Bullafontaine: since u are a bone fide anarchist now, then learn to fuck authority - respect it, but fuck it. Understand the race and the next move and anticipate yours. Achieve eye contact at these moments with the mormon sister f*%ker on the helm . This is all the communication you need. Get yourself set up early for gybes and tidy up after. Learn some useful handsignals for hoists, douses and of course starts. Shut, invent some of your own. The bow is a hallowed place I once graced in OD fleets. Enjoy and keep out of management consultancy at the blunt end. I should have stayed on bow!
  14. Seascape 27

    I like the low-fast performance upwind you guys quote. I think scandinavia at least is ready for a spoetsboat which sleeps its crew and can tackle the classic distance races up to 15ms winds. Alvin expresses are getting to be an old fashioned boat after all!
  15. Best boat for light air lake sailing

    ShorWell we have been round the houses..... Short of foiling, have you looked at the Mac 26 ? Great racing back from the windward mark with the engine on. Love the battleship btw. Live fire I hope?