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  1. Ajax, Your assessment above basically applies to the actively posting cruising forum members sadly. Lots of good information and people in CA, but still essentially a circle jerk. The original question is on is still a good one. I personally think it's a little more interesting to peg your max at $10-$15k. It's amazing what can be had for that price.
  2. Hmmm. I mean Rob is co owner of the quantum Newport loft, so it was already a quasi quantum operation.
  3. The main force your mast step is handling is the compression loads coming from the rig. If you calculate what the righting moment of your boat at various angles of heel, that is more or less the load your step is seeing. If your step is built properly to handle this, it can handle the other loads you're wondering about with ease.
  4. I have a Furuno tztouch mfd and digital radar, which is 5 years old now, and it still has the best user interface on the market. Excellent product, but more expensive than most of the others. I am tempted to get another b&g plotter for downstairs. We have one on the boat I race on, a Zeus I think (whichever is their top of the line) and it is an excellent unit. The UI is almost as good as the furuno, and of course it has fantastic sailing functions. If you're calling tactics, this is a phenomenal unit, and it's priced attractively. The Garmin still misses the mark in my opinion. I tested one out the other day and was still mystified by how clunky it was. Ultimately you want something that is FAST and anyone can figure out quickly. The Furuno wins in this regard hands down because it has one knob and two buttons. That knob and the two buttons get you to any menu you want, and the knob scrolls through things and zooms in and out. The rest of the operation mimics what you would expect from an iPad, and anything you do had little to no lag. Nmea 2000 makes interfacing amongst manufacturers much much easier these days than in the past, with the only exception being radar I have b&g triton displays and aws/depth/speed/temp I like these too, and they aren't crazy expensive either. Some of the new ray marine stuff actually looks decent, but I haven't had a chance to mess with it, so I can't offer anything beyond what I've read on Panbo
  5. Complete piece of shit. Bought one, suffered through a month of shoulder pain from trying to start it, ditched it. Green canister good for 2 round trips to and from the boat from the mooring/anchor. That's for an average 1/4 mile or less trip. Anything more and you are pushing it. That's if you can start the thing. I found myself a sweet 2 stroke Yamaha 9.9 on Craigslist and I haven't looked back. While I feel bad about the pollution, this is the only motor that I have absolute confidence in. My mercury 9.9 4 stroke (a tohatsu) may have been a bigger piece of shit than the Lehr. Completely unable to handle modern fuels. The only motor that I had to fucking clean the carb more than once in a day...and that happened more than once. The ultimate solution here is to stop converting food crops to fuel, as the green benefit is nonexistent, and big agribusiness has come to love the corporate welfare.
  6. Restless, a Rhodes reliant won the 2000 Bermuda race. Second by a hair was the 1930 Rhodes custom, Bangalore, a very special boat that also makes clear Rhodes' ability as a designer.
  7. I use Flitz for scuff marks on awlgrip. Works perfectly for me. No issues dulling the shine.
  8. With a camera usually. Sometimes you can get an artist to paint a picture
  9. It's also both material intensive (lots of waste) and labor intensive to build. Better than crosscut from a shape holding perspective, but still woefully less effective at matching fibers to load paths as a 3di type sail.
  10. Aramid is the generic name for Kevlar. Dacron is a trade name for Polyethylene terephthalate
  11. It's probably decent, but not as stiff overall as carbon, aramid or dyneema materials. The fact that the yarns are now truly oriented along predicted load paths will go a very long way towards shape holding, and likely be a dramatic improvement on dacron sails. All of that said, I still stand by my original point that you should not expect these sails to be bulletproof like woven dacron sails, as they are now essentially polyester laminates all relying on the same glues that eventually suffer in a catastrophic failure mode. On the other hand, you should expect many more seasons of decent sail shape than you would with a woven sail, particularly if you opt to go with full battens.
  12. I get what you're saying completely. As a racer, I obviously appreciate reliable sail shape. I also really enjoy this as a cruiser too. I have a new main coming this season after having to go last season with my very old North dacron main. I had to do this because my previous main, a Cuben Fiber sail basically failed instantaneously. That sail, up to that point had a terrific flying shape. I am still grateful to have an old blown out dacron sail that is essentially indestructible, but sailing with it vs my cuben sail is a completely different experience, particularly in light air and close hauled in any breeze. My feeling is that the cruising benefits of good sail shape are largely underappreciated within the cruising community.
  13. Interesting. Based on quotes that I've gotten from North for Dacron sails vs their other technologies and those of competitors, North Dacron panelled sails were generally in the same ballpark as laminate sails from other manufacturers. That said, I would want to see of these sails provide the same kind of bullet proof reliability as traditional panel sails with woven dacron. I am a big fan of better sail technology, and I largely think that Dacron ends up being more expensive than better technologies if you really care about shape holding over time. That said, laminates have intrinsic life span issues built in (glue oxidation in particular, and film breakdown), and I'm guessing that the oxidation issue would be present with this new technology, as the fibers are presumably held in place with glue. At the end of the day, this definitely looks like a win for shape holding, though I'm skeptical that those thinking that they will all of a sudden have access to molded technology at a reduced cost because their sails are white will be disappointed, as the materials cost shouldn't amount to a huge difference unless comparing to carbon fiber. As an interesting side argument for this technology. The organizers of some classic yachts events have been wringing their hands about the use of modern sails in these events. Some folks get all bunged up when they see black sails, and they attribute all success to people having these sails, even when the results either suggest otherwise, or the sailors lodging complaints can barely sail upwind to begin with, so focus their efforts on personal improvement by attacking rating systems or the hardware of others. Given that these sails are made of Dacron, which for some reason is seen as a natural fiber by this bozos, I would see this as a great way to appease the classic yacht dilettantes, and not throw money away by purchasing woven racing sails that lose their shape a quarter of the way through the season. .
  14. My current dog, Ernie is a phenomenal boat dog. He loves to sail, probably because he gets to lay in direct sunlight, which is a favorite activity. He has a low center of gravity, so he's sure footed, and he taught himself to grab my shoulders like a parrot when we're getting in and out of the dinghy so that he can get to and from the rail. Ernie can also hold his pee for a ridiculous time, and he has never pooped or peed onboard.
  15. I saw that last week. Very tempting, but then again someone asked me the other day how many boats I own, and I couldn't answer right away. This is a problem.