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Grey Dawn

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  1. Coolboats to admire

    Right. If the mizzen provides power it's a ketch. If it's only for balance, it's a yawl.
  2. J 121

    The inhaulers seem to have the effect of many parallel jib tracks. It does get busy near the mast.
  3. J 121

    It looked very good to me. Similar to a J120, not surprisingly. It's got some nice performance features like water ballast and an inhauler to adjust the jib sheeting angles. Controls were well set up in the cockpit. The interior looked fine for cruising as well. I didn't sail on it, though.
  4. Sailing art

    Maybe not art but I love the image now on the front page from the world's largest regatta:
  5. Sailing art

    You can see this one in the National Gallery in DC
  6. Irma, Soma, and making a difference

    Seems to be for charter in the Exumas. http://www.catppalu.com/
  7. ^^^Beautiful boats. They look Scandinavian.
  8. J105 Pushpit

    How bad is the damage? You might talk to a metal fabricator about a repair.
  9. SCIENCE!

    There is a new study on the energy potential in wind over oceans which seems to be enough to power the world. It's not too practical now but the study may stimulate ways of exploiting this wind energy. What if one way to cool the climate would be to extract energy from it using massive wind farms in the ocean. For those interested, read http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2017/10/03/1705710114.full.pdf for more information.
  10. My newest project

    Yep, it was a Wang. Found it online.
  11. My newest project

    Anyone remember a nixie tube display desk calculator wired to a shared central processor that did the calculations? I think it might have been Sharp.
  12. The Herreshoff 12 1/2 is a pretty gaff rigged boat with a decent OD fleet in several areas. It's just a bit smaller. Here's an original for sale. http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1931/Herreshoff-12-1-2-3066542/Islesboro/ME/United-States
  13. 25'-30' Sprit Boat For $75k

    Seascape 27 is a great choice but not for 75K. Catalina 275 sport if you can find a used one.
  14. Agree. Visited Carriacou from nearby Petit Saint Vincent without formalities.
  15. Girl with patreon account goes sailing in hot place

    Beautifully made cruising video. Argues well for a retracting keel for East Coast and Bahamas cruising.
  16. Irma

    Another video posted by the same person in a similar location. You can see people on the deck during the lull.
  17. Irma

    Two thoughts: 1) Oh My God!!!! 2) How was the camera placed so as to keep running? That video will become a classic.
  18. My newest project

  19. Wht havent' multihulls taken the world by storm

    I came across the same blog https://sailcraftblog.wordpress.com/2016/05/16/the-real-story-of-amaryllis-and-the-first-racing-catamarans/ which says essentially the same thing as Jay. Perhaps some additions to the Wikipedia entry could be made to reflect this viewpoint.
  20. Wht havent' multihulls taken the world by storm

    Some more color on this subject can be found at http://www.runningtideyachts.com/multihull/Amaryllis.html Excerpts: After the race was over, the captain of the Clara S. protested against the Amaryllis, on the ground that she is neither a yacht nor a boat; but it was the general opinion that the protest came too late, and should have been made before the start. Had it been, there is little doubt that the judges would have barred her out. If she is ruled out, the prize comes to the Puck and Luck. Source: Anon. (R. F. Coffin?). "A Yachting Wonder. Sudden Development of the Fastest Craft in the World. The Reveille, Susie B., Amaryllis and Victoria Win the Second Centennial Regatta." The World, June 24, 1876, p. 2. A REVOLUTIONARY YACHT. The defeated yachtsmen in yesterday's race are entitled to sincere commiseration. It is a well-established fact among Americans of a yachting turn of mind, that the American yacht embodies in her model all the fairy tales of science and the long results of time. It is supposed to be almost the perfect model for speed under canvas, and it is supposed that any improvement on it will be merely an extension of it. Yet yesterday all the yachts of this approved model were beaten ridiculously by a vessel of outlandish model and rig. She is literally 'outlandish,' for according to the description of her the nearest approach to her afloat is the famous 'flying proa' of the Ladrone Islands, of the speed of which wonderful stories are told. Nobody protested against entering her for the race yesterday, for the reason probably that everybody expected to beat her, but everybody seems to have objected to being beaten by her. Next time we advise our yachtsmen to ponder the words of MILTON, And think twice ere they venture to "Sport with Amaryllis in the shade." In form the entry seems to have been perfectly fair, since the yachts were taxed only according to length, and were permitted as much extension in all other directions as their owners chose. But in fact, it is clearly unfair to race boats of radically different models, and built for entirely different purposes, against each other. The model of the Amaryllis evidently would not do for a sea going vessel, and nothing in the way of the practical 'improvement of naval architecture ' which yachts and yacht clubs are supposed to promote, can come out of a flying proa. But on the other hand, none of the boats engaged in the race with her are supposed to be good for much except to engage in such races. The tendency of yacht-racing is everywhere to-produce 'racing machines;' in ENGLAND by narrowing, deepening and ballasting yachts out of all reason, and here by making broad and shallow 'skimming-dishes.' In either case the result is not a good type of sea-going vessel. So the owners of racing-machines have really no reason to complain that somebody should invent a racing-machine to beat them. This the inventor of the Amaryllis has done. It behooves the owners of the large schooners, however, to take counsel together lest somebody should build an Amaryllis a hundred feet long and convert their crafts into useless lumber. It is a matter quite as important as keeping the America's Cup, and may demand quite as ingenious and elaborate devices as were put in force against Mr. ASHBURY. Source: Anon. (Editorial). "A Revolutionary Yacht." The World, June 24, 1876, p. 4.
  21. Wht havent' multihulls taken the world by storm

    This monohull - multihull controversy is pretty old. From Wikipedia: Amaryllis was a catamaran sailboat designed by Nathanael Greene Herreshoff and launched in 1876. It was notable for its significant victory in the 1876 New York Centennial Regatta, which resulted in multihull sailing vessels being banned from organized sailing competitions.[1] Ironically, Herreshoff was later to become a celebrated monohull designer.[1] Amaryllis was succeeded by a second catamaran vessel, Tarantella.[1] It is said that prejudice against multihulls resulting from Amarayllis' superior performance was only overcome by Victor Tchetchet much later in 1946.
  22. Maria

    Those images of Jost are heartbreaking.
  23. J70, cheating and pros

    Yes. Need to have an arrangement where clubs own them or you get the boat of the person who crashed yours.