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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Most keels create lift but I also don't think the VO65 keel was designed to produce lift in the way the newer Vendee keels do. Could be wrong.
  2. Doug beat me to it. Whether or not the boats will remain intact RTW or on the course is another question. Rudder damage is prevalent in the IMOCA boats and sometimes cause for retirement. Not sure they could carry a spare t-foil. The Vendee boats are designed with pop-up rudders. Might be an interesting scenario to have a t-foil pop up while foiling at speed in say the SO.
  3. Jack, I appreciate your enthusiasm and understand the complexities and cost savings compared to a one off build. This would certainly help more get to the start line. The beauty of the one off, as we have seen, is that innovation and breakthroughs can come from any one source and end up dominating a race (HB prior to the break). Let's not forget that these VOR 60's will also one day become obsolete.
  4. I'm with Jack on the innovation. But that's about it. Quite an engineering feat to get the aft section up. I imagine the bulk of the load with pivot on the larger foil. I just wonder how the foils will hold up being pushed by a full crew. I don't know that the VOR got the jump on IMOCA. It was inevitable coming from that design house.
  5. Bucc, its curious to me how selective you are at recognizing the demise of some venues such as the AC and even critical of the choice of multis for inshore but are unwilling or unable to accept that the changes to the Volvo are significant. It wasn't always a boat race. That's the point. I applaud the innovation in boat design and look forward to seeing a crewed up foiling 60 screech down the SO. But I'm not sure the racing will be that exciting given all the parameters still in place. I'm with you on the inshore foiling multis though. Pretty dull to watch.
  6. Too right. The essence of it is lost. The stuff of dreams. The heroics, the unknown, the adventure and the danger. It was a good plot. But lets face it. The novelty has worn off. How many times can you race around the world, whichever venue, before it becomes blasé to most people. Another broken record? Who cares. Faster boats? Bigger Boats? All female teams. Mixed teams. Trained monkeys. Meh. All the once great adventures have become things to check off the bucket list. I don't envy Turner et al. How do you keep the traveling circus going when so much is compromised to satisfy so few. Kind of reminds me of Buffalo Bills Wild West Show in it's final days. From Wikipedia: "Easterners were eager to enjoy the thrill and danger of the west, and in this way it was made possible to do so without the risks and consequences that came along with the real west. The Wild West shows satisfied their cravings for adventure" On it's decline: "The Lussiure New of England predicted “The Business will degenerate into the hands of men devoid of Buffalo Bill’s exalted simplicity, and much more eager to finger the shillings of the public than to shake the hand of Mother Nature.
  7. I wonder how well the offshore foiling mono skill set of the skippers and crew translates to inshore foiling cats? Imagine coming off a Southern Ocean leg, pounded for weeks on end (as the latest IMOCA's gave their skippers a beating) and having to finesse a fussy little foiling cat around a tight inshore course. Does this mean splitting the training time between the two platforms? I'm guessing both boats will require a great deal of training to get it done well if the AC and Vendee are proof. It took many months to get up to speed on the VO65's last edition and some teams were still catching up mid race.
  8. Dead on indeed.
  9. Can you please copy and paste the whole IW comment? I'm not on FB. Thanks Bucc.
  10. Like the T-Rudders. That's new for an offshore mono, no?
  11. Pix? Start a thread. Love the O's and a good rebuild thread.
  12. The cats are being opened up to a design tender process starting today at between 32 and 50 feet. From front page...
  13. Curious decision. I'm glad to see the race continue in a monohull. I think there is still a lot of development yet to be had in foiling (foil assist) mono. But the inshore foiling cats? I thought the purpose of the inshore race was to test how well the crew cans the boat? Too difficult to race a foiling mono inshore? Clipping foils at the top mark? And the same offshore crew is going to race the foiling cats? This should be fun to watch!