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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. I think all you really need is a rudder coefficient setting for displacement mode and planing mode, maybe change wind dampening for sea state as well. The quick access gain setting with auto counter rudder will cover the response effort for the point of sail and conditions. Don't think more than that will yield a lot. The manual says a Figaro2 would be rudder coefficient of 15. I think the HR pilot has a lot more types of behavior settings for the level of customization you're suggesting Just my 2 cents
  2. J121*/Pogo12.50 Base price $385k (USA built) / $235k (French built)** LOA 40 / 41 Beam 12.3 / 14.8 Draft 7.75 / 9.8 (swing back keel to 4.6) Dspl 11.5k / 11k Water Ballast +1k / NA Upwind SA 961 / 1151 Downwind SA 2164 / 2346 *From previous poster **From Pogo Structures website 2015 list base price converted from euros Is that base price on the pogo just wrong or misleading (or did I just read/calculate that wrong)? Doesn’t seem so from a recent purchaser of one who posted his spend on another thread. Also, I understand that the pogo is built exceptionally well (and it’s nice that there’s enough foam in it to make it unsinkable). Assuming those prices are right, does it really cost that much more to build boats in the USA? I would think the J121 would be better in light air and probably generally better upwind. I would think the pogo would generally be better reaching from say 60 to 140. They’re probably generally similar past 140. J121 probably more satisfying racing (unless ocean racing) given more range of performance, but definitely paying for it. Of course, isn’t it going to get slaughtered on rating with water ballast??? I’d be curious what other thought.
  3. I tried making it work, and I think it’s much more trouble than it is worth. If the torsion cable twists (and it will eventually no matter how careful you are) during furling, then when it snaps back the counter twist will knot up the spinnaker and resulting mess is about as bad a mess you can ever get with a spinnaker. Other things about it seemed good in theory, but it turns out it’s just not practical (never gets tight enough to not have to take down as soon as practical, running the furling line is a PITA, does not furl as quickly as you could go to the bow and pull down the snuffer, and the list goes on). I went back to a snuffer, and have found new respect for its simplicity, effectiveness, and ease of use. To minimize trips back and forth to the bow while launching/retrieving as well as keeping the foot from dragging in the water before you can get it off the sprit, consider adding a clutch for the tack line at the bow (I’m assuming you want this for shorthanded).
  4. Is there an iOS app with weather routing using polar inputs?
  5. Wow, what great feedback. Thanks everybody! Think I will go with the Raritan Sea Era -- seems like it would be the simplest to drop in place of the existing PHC
  6. What is more efficient at maximizing the holding tank capacity, an electric or manual toilet, and is it meaningful? It seems my biggest tankage/supply limitation when on a mooring for a few days is the holding tank filling up. I was on a charter boat with an electric head and my impression was that it was using a lot less water. My thinking is that since there is effectively no solid waste (since it's all chopped up) there is less water needed to get the waste to the tank. So I'm thinking about switching to an electric for this reason -- seems easier than trying to fit a larger holding tank. As an aside, the charter boat used a gravity flush on the holding tank. We have a pump on our boat. Is that a USA/California requirement to have a pump for it?
  7. NKE makes a wifi box that plugs into their bus system and it also has a wired in and/or out -- I would think that would work really well, provide a lot of connection options, and eliminate conversion equipment
  8. So with this beefed up fix, what's the next thing to break when the loads get too much: sprit, mast, hull housing around sprit? Seems the pad eye ripping from the bulk head is a relatively cheap fix.
  9. Anybody have B&G1000 autopilot for their J109 that they have calibrated well for steering under sail (particularly downwind with a spinnaker)? If so, would you mind sharing your settings for gain and lag as well as speedo hz? Tx