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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. The self tacking track on ETNZ curves forward at the mast to release the sail tension when it goes through the tack,when then tensions it self up to the original setting as it travels out
  2. Didnt he give it to the Spanish
  3. The cross beam takes the wing piviot so the wing position on the hull dictates the cross beam position, On the SL33s they set the piviot point back off the beam. When in place the beam dictates where the daggerboards can go...hence ETNZ have a curved beam
  4. Oracle still need to move them back for it to fly better. The system on the SL 33s was quite complex and took a lot to figure out and work right team oracle need to hire you to sort out their program.... except you lost all cred when you said that ar needed to move the foils behind the beam.... just one more kiwi working up to 50 bullshit posts a day.... Not really but I know a real good engineer 50 per day......I havent the information or the time!
  5. yes, I had a look over the 33 some time before their first 72 was launched, The boards they were testing were like the ones they are using now so there is a reasonable lead time between developing and producing them or that was the track they were going down all along
  6. Oracle still need to move them back for it to fly better. The system on the SL 33s was quite complex and took a lot to figure out and work right
  7. ie OR ...less stable As well they need to learn how to fly
  8. Thats a major reconstruction...to suss out all the control systems and build will be a major,on the ETNZ 33s they could move the boards 4 ways and I think that was how they determined placement of the boards in the hulls
  9. My mistake....not paying att
  10. If Artemis are going foil with stability they will need a curved front beam like ETNZ and move the foils back and I dont think they have enough lead time before racing starts to remake the beams
  11. OR were months out in their launch for B1, and will be similarly late for B2. They were impressive with the repairs. You would have to say though from helicopter view the programme overall isn't going as smoothly as ETNZ and LR - critical breakages and accidents, significant adaptations and changes to direction being made, boat still not performing. ETNZ are the gold standard at the moment, but look stretched. The AC is primarily an organisational challenge - there are so many things that have to come together in a short time, and this one is an order of magnitude worse than previous cups. My feeling with ETNZ is that they are going well by virtue of not having had any major setbacks - which is a tribute to their planning, design and execution (and luck). I doubt they would do as well as OR in coming back from a major disaster like the PP, simply because they don't have the resources. I don't believe that OR ever planned to launch boat 1 on day 1 and likewise have always AFAIK planned a late launch for boat 2 (presumably to take advantage of looking at the challenger's boats). However, I agree that ETNZ simply don't have the resources to recover from the major setbacks that OR have. The sheer number of people that OR have is mind boggling. I am not sure that they are all really adding value however as how many AC45 crews do you really need??? Really? The ability to significantly change your boat in response to the other boats is very limited. Say OR suddenly realise their foils are too far forward: moving them would change the distribution of forces everywhere else in the boat, not to mention wing positioning etc. To hit the weight constraints they would have to redesign or at least reassess every single structural component in the boat, and that isn't going to happen overnight. The design team would have been working against a design brief not other boats. All they can do now is refine in response to the other boats. And every team was aiming to get its boat on the water as soon as allowed - you would be stupid to pass up the very limited time on the water, particularly early on. OR missed both dates by months. I agree a total re-design is not possible. However, clearly there is some benefit to refining your boat with the hindsight of what the other teams have done. GD clearly agreed with this when he stated that they were trying to keep NZL5 under wraps and away from the prying eyes of OR et al for the longest possible time I think you will find that the boards will be in the same place as on boat 1 because the beams that left NZ a while back were straight which does not allow the boards to be placed further back