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  1. Laser 28?

    I've never felt too much weight on the boat hurt me in light air. I've often felt too little weight on the boat hurt me in medium to heavy air.
  2. 25'-30' Sprit Boat For $75k

    There is an Andrews 28 for sale on the Sailing Anarchy web site. I believe that boat has been for sale for a while, I've seen it on other sites, so maybe they are negotiable.
  3. Laser 28?

    I do assure you heads are not available. Crinmar closed this past December - I placed one of the last orders for parts. The company out in Australia that sold refurbished engines isn't selling them anymore. And the ad you linked to is the engine I purchased. It is possible if you scoured e-bay or similar you'll get lucky, but I tried for months before I finally found the one in the ad you posted.
  4. Laser 28?

    My Bukh's head cracked and no replacements are available. I was 'this close' to going electric because I don't cruise and 95% of the time I just need to get in and out of the slip. My idea was to fabricate and adapter plate and bolt the electric motor to the sail drive. I planned to carry enough battery power so that the electric motor and batteries would equal the weight of the old engine and a half full fuel tank. I had looked high and low for a diesel engine that would fit without major modification of the boat. My recollection was that the Yanmar would require moving the hole through the hull aft because the Yanmar has a horizontal shaft. I also think the Yanmar would necessitate complete replacement of the fiberglass box molded to the inside of the hull the motor sits on. I even thought of using a Hatz air cooled engine which is a vertical shaft diesel used for industrial equipment and lawnmowers, but I wasn't sure how I would supply sufficient cooling airflow to the engine. In the end I found a used Bukh in England and had it shipped over. I'm repainting it now and hope to have it in the boat by summer.
  5. Laser 28?

    I'll do you one better. Back in the mid 80's a legally blind sailor did Transpac in a Laser 28 - solo! His name was Hank Dekker and in the early 2000's he bought another Laser 28 to sail in Punta Gorda, FL. He sold that boat to me a few years later and I still own it now.
  6. opti's (sic) rule

    I never sailed Opti’s (as a youth) but I was a coach in a few programs that used them. Some of the sailors I coached went on to become college All Americans. I think the Opti bashers are being unfair to the boat and maybe even to the class. First the cons – the boats are slow. They are not technical. At least in America too many sailors ‘weigh out’ before they ‘age out’. And as pointed out above, there’s no room for a sailor who is happier being a crew than a skipper. On the plus side Optis are simple and relatively cheap. They hold their value: A well maintained $1,500 boat with a new sail is likely to be just as competitive as a new boat with a new sail. They are very robust, bordering on indestructible. It’s easy for a coach to rescue. And an Opti can be sailed by a relatively young sailor in extreme conditions. I routinely held practices in 25 gusting to 30 with 11-year olds sailing. I’ve escorted a team of 5 through a pass in which two powerboats flipped over including the RC finish line boat which was a 22-ft Mako. Three of the five sailed through the pass without any problem, one actually tried to go back because she was having so much fun surfing the waves. I towed the other two through. In what other boat could a 11-12 year old handle such conditions? Try towing two Lasers through 8-ft following seas. What are the alternatives to the Opti? Sabot: Don’t know enough about these to comment. Laser: Too big for small sailors. Boat’s don’t hold their value. Not much more technical than an opti. Difficult for coach to rescue in strong winds / big seas. Euro dingly: Too expensive. Too big for the really small sailors. Open Bic: Maybe, but I think it has a fatal flaw, how many of you can spot it? As for the Opti Class – yes there some A-hole parents. But it’s a huge class with a lot of members; most of the parents are very nice people. It’s not fair to indict the entire class because of a few jackasses. An nobody forces all the kids to compete in the top level events like Lake Garda. There are plenty of low-key regional regattas – which is all I envision doing with my son. I mentioned the college All Americans I had the pleasure of coaching. But I am just as proud of the kid I coached back in the day who never once won a race in the Opti class. He is now a very competent club racer. I have complete faith that he can handle is 32-ft boat in any conditions I could – he learned those skills and independence in an Opti.
  7. Sailors Powerboat

    What's the mission? Limit on $?
  8. Fun in Florida in January or Februay?

    Nice looking boat, and a lot better than anything I could build with my two hands, but not sure you're going to find too many races for that. What type of place to you want to stay? Camping? Hotel?
  9. Rule 17 Question

    Your friend argues that, Well, not really. The PC will listen to testimony from both sides, including witnesses, and determine for themselves what the leeward boat's proper course was at the time. To answer your first question, in the protest room I would ask the leeward boat why they came up when they established the overlap. Assuming they lie (a breach of rule 2) and say something like "because the wind got light and I had to head up to maintain VMG" you might point out how convenient it happened right when the overlap started. Obviously witnesses might help. Hopefully the PC has some racing experience and can see through BS. For the second question: The leeward boat came up because their spin collapsed. Why did the spin collapse? Because of the windward boat. So the leeward boat would not have sailed that higher course in the absence of the other boat. I agree with the PC. BTW, remember that proper course is defined only by the other boats referred to in the rule using the term. For example L & W are running down wind and L established an overlap to leeward and from astern of W. Down the course are several boats coming up wind and L decides that he should head up to avoid a potential wind shadow from those boats. This is ok, because it's L's proper course. L would have headed up to avoid the wind shadow of the other boats even if W wasn't there.
  10. GPS

    Garmin 76. When mine crapped out a few years ago I bought a Garmin 78 which is the current version of Garmin's hand-held. The problem with the Garmin 78 is that I couldn't get it to follow a course properly. No matter what I tried it would automatically jump to the closest way-point. I even talked to Garmin about it and they didn't seem to understand why that was a problem. If Garmin has updated the 78's software so this isn't an issue any more, please let me know. My spare 76 gave up the ghost and now I'm down to one unit only.
  11. Marklayers get too much shit from coaches

    I coached in the US for almost 10-years and I never saw or heard of anything like that happen. A few terse words or conversation; but nothing like that. Many coaches are young and consider themselves rock stars who think they know all and are infallible. They don't have the wisdom to understand that our sport depends on volunteers. As pointed out above, the RRS provide a means to deal with this. Another option is for the club to ban the offender from their property. If I was an club Officer and something like this happened, I certainly would.
  12. a question for those in the know about sail trim

    What do you mean by "...end boom sheeting for the genoa"? I've never seen a genoa with a boom. What is a "fare sail"?
  13. Force required by rigid vang

    the boom and sail weigh 50-kg which is evenly distributed. To determine the force in the vang we assume the 50-kg boom and sail weight acts in the middle of the boom, i.e. 2.5-m from the mast. So.... 50-kg*2.5-m = Fy*1-m ---> Fy=125-kg = vertical force exerted by the vang. (summing the moments about the gooseneck.) Sin 30=125-kg/F ---> F= 250-kg = force exerted by the vang along the vang.
  14. Force required by rigid vang

    250-kg
  15. Age to start sailing

    Sailing is one of the few sports you can compete in when you're old. It's a true lifetime sport.