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  1. I have an Express with the batten interior and they do a nice job of dressing it up while keeping it simple. I'm pretty sure that they are screwed directly into the cored hull though, and I'm not sure that would work so well on a boat with a thinner hull structure. I guess glassing in furring strips would be one solution. I agree with steele's "keep it simple" suggestion. That's typical of what I see on smaller boats.
  2. PSS Dripless Shaft Seals: Pros/Cons/Experiences?

    I just installed a PSS on my boat. My old one didn't have the nipple for cooling water flow, the new one does. I liked their kit (even though it is overpriced) that ties that into a nearby throughull (I'm using a sink drain).
  3. Lewmar EVO vs. Ocean

    You don’t have to open the can if you have the studs. You install them into the winch from the bottom, then drop through they deck. They just aren’t included and aren’t a standard hardware store item (double machine threaded stud with metric threads). The countersunk holes for flathead bolts are still there.
  4. Lewmar EVO vs. Ocean

    Well, they allow for captive studs. They aren’t included with the winches. I bought a set of them to use that feature, but ended up having to do a traditional install (which was faster than making the studs).
  5. Buying a 1988 Beneteau First 285

    I had a very similar Pearson 28-2 (so similar that I often wondered if Pearson was studying drawings of the french boats from a couple of years earlier). I'm 5'11ish and what SloopJonB says about the interior is true, but it worked great for me. If I were much taller the berths might be too short. I loved the interior layout, aft head, big central cabin, and big aft quarterberth. I mostly slept in the quarterberth and it was great, but a few inches longer would have kept my pillow from always falling to the floor. The doors were narrow, but I didn't have any trouble with that. Racing a heavier cruising boat in the 180s-190s PHRF range is frustrating because most of the boats on the race course with similar ratings end up being lightweight 22-25' boats that can move a lot more easily in light air. We have a lot of light air. My boat rated 198 (based was a lot lower, but 135% furling headsail and a code 4 main dropped my rating by 12 points). An Olson 911 is awfully similar in layout and functionality while being a lot faster. I wanted to get one, just never found one for sale in good condition. That's kind of how I got to the Express 37, it is just a very big Olson 911.
  6. Totally lost...

    I raced for a few years on a Catalina 36 mk2 (made new in the mid 90s). It was a nice boat. The owner had it since new and used it for everything, cruising, liveaboard, racing. We pushed that boat hard and it was great. It was also pretty slow (a 36 foot boat rating in the 140s). We were pretty competitive with good sails and a good crew, but it's also a little strange racing a 36' boat when most of our competition are Santa Cruz 27s and other much smaller boats. On the other hand it was great doing races like Swiftsure on a boat with a good galley and cabin heat. Build quality was pretty good from what I saw (I helped out with a few minor repairs). The only thing that I didn't like was that hardware portions of the deck were cored with aluminum, and deck hardware threaded right into those aluminum plates. This is pretty common on newer boats though, and I doubt Catalina was doing it on a 80s Catalina 30 that you might consider. So if you lean towards cruising and want to do racing on the side a Catalina might be a good option. I do think that Catalina boats often have generous handicaps because the average Catalina is sailed with old sails, a dirty bottom, and a fixed prop. Keep one in good shape and buy it fresh sails and you can collect a lot of trophies.
  7. Mesh Lifeline netting

    We got that part down last summer. It is tough for my wife who is a very capable sailor, but not as interested in singlehanding (so I tend to singlehand the boat and she plays with our son). I like your lifejacket rule Zonker.
  8. Comparing Specs

    This is my scrape: https://1drv.ms/x/s!AqokoOqNPTKZjGgqLIpogifqsape It is from 2013, and there are some errors (though I think I cleaned up most). I was sad to hear about Randy's passing, and I'm glad to know that another person is keeping it going. It is a helpful resource.
  9. Mesh Lifeline netting

    I'd love to hear other safety advice about sailing with a kid. Ours will be one and a bit this summer and we're trying to figure out what cruising is going to be like. It was easy last summer when he wasn't mobile. Our son loves to take off container covers. How do other parents secure the bilge boards to keep them from playing in the muck down there? Our boat's bilge is usually very dry in summer, but it is still kind of gross. Lee cloths are a good idea, but I'm worried that he'll just stand up and climb over them. I was thinking that we'd bring a travel crib (we have a very light one from Phil&Ted) that we can leave setup in the V-berth or the main cabin. That'll work for sleeping, but he'll hate being that constrained while awake. He is a climber and needs barriers to be upper chest high or he'll get over them. I was not planning on netting, but we do have a tether and I was going to put more tether points in the cockpit and will leave a center jackline. ISR class sounds good, but isn't offered in my area. Are there similar classes structured around safety?
  10. Our racers don't drink enough

    Prices at our club (CYC Seattle) are $7 food, $5-$6 drinks ($5 beer, $6 wine or speciality drinks). Menu items vary but I always find it to be a good deal. They have meat and veggie options. They have race fees and the races are run very professionally. The other major club in town (Sloop Tavern Yacht Club) has no race fees, volunteer race committee, uses gov't marks instead of set marks (so courses are rarely square) and goes to the bar after racing instead of having a clubhouse. I prefer the CYC food to the bar food, but both get the job done when you are hungry. I like the STYC race courses. I'm a member of both, race with both, and think they are both great clubs with very different ways of doing things. I'm not a member of Seattle Yacht Club, but they are a the fancy one with a big restaurant and per-month food minimums for each member. I do like it when I get invited to events there. Their Tri-Island series is fun and the primary distance racing that starts and ends in Seattle (vs being a boat day away from here).
  11. Harken Winch Question

    What era of Harken 60 3sp winches do you have? I have older (mid/late 80s) 5-60 3sp winches and have taken them apart a lot. Have you tried swapping the high gear portion of the two winches to isolate what could be wrong? That unit is where I'd expect to find the trouble. You my Harken #60 3sp winches that I'm talking about here: Harken didn't have information on these winches and wasn't that helpful when I called. Maybe I just got the wrong person. I was just hoping to find an exploded view before taking them apart for the first time. This is sort of close, but different in some details: http://www.harken.com/uploadedfiles/Product_Support/PDF/4570.5-99.pdf On my winches the main thing that could prevent a winch handle from being inserted would be a problem with the flathead screw at the bottom of the handle socket, but you have to remove that to take the winch apart anyway so I assume you've investigated that. The modern 60.3 doesn't look like it has major design changes in that part of the winch. I'd also look at the spring #37751 in that drawing. One of my winches that was slightly bent and it caused strange operational errors with the winch and made it a lot harder to disassemble. That spring is what pops it out of high gear when you shift into 2nd, and also provides some friction to allow the gear shift to stay in either of it's two positions.
  12. Roller Furler Questions

    Not in my house. The husband here is the one who thinks a furler might be nice for cruising. The sexism in SA is so deep...
  13. PHRF and the Parasailor

    I remember them being about 1.5x to 2x the cost of a nice kite. At 2x is the cost you can easily put a sprit and buy a new asym. Trogear style sprit is about $1000 plus haulout costs (unless you install while in the water) and a couple hundred in blocks and line.
  14. PHRF and the Parasailor

    I just fly a cruising cut asym when we're short handed. It can't go DDW, but it goes deep enough (and in light air DDW is really slow anyway, in heavy air we're not running a kite doublehanded). I'm tempted to install a trogear-style bowsprit for the asym, but it would make our PHRF handicap complicated. Those parasailor kites are so expensive that the same budget would get you a trogear sprit and 3 beat up used or 1 in great condition used asym kites.
  15. Roller furler jib

    I don't know what your question is since you just stated that you have reasons to want to use a furler. Is it how to get the boat to point when you need to reduce sail area?