Expatriated

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  1. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    Do you mean the stupid cunts like Boris Johnson and Ress-Mogg or the deceptive pieces of shit like Juncker and Tusk building a united states of Europe without popular support. I would go for all four of them. The Euro is a bigger threat to the global economy than BREXIT.
  2. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    You are completely correct. The UK should have refused to invoke artickle 50 until they were ready.
  3. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    EU refused to negotiate until article 50 was declared. That and "nothing is agreed until everything is agreed" is a signficiant part of this shitshow. If the EU members really believe in "ever closer union" they are better off without the UK as a member.
  4. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    Maybe be avoided war but the tensions are increasing...https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/07/world/europe/france-italy-ambassador-yellow-vests.html The Euro will soon mean a decision has to be taken by the EU members to maintain the Euro - either a full fiscal and banking union or see Italy, Greece and other countries forced off the Euro. Tax harmonization is coming and will hit some countries hard.
  5. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    The reason there were border checks was because of the IRA smuggling explosives into NI. There is no need for border posts.
  6. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    I think it would be much better for the UK to remain in the EU and continue blocking Jean Monnet's dream of a single European state. Why did the Dutch reject the recent Ukrainian treaty that every other EU country accepted?
  7. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    Is there a hard border between Norway and Sweden? If not why would the NI border be any different? When I lived in Geneva there were many unmanned crossings between France and Switzerland.
  8. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    I don't think a very specific single question could have been asked in the first referendum. Even now it's going to be difficult for the UK parliament to agree on a question for a second vote. It would have been much better to avoid the referendum and making changes to UK law to make it easier to limit EU in the same way the German constitutional court can or even follow the Dutch model of more referendums on specific treaties (I'm thinking of the Dutch rejection of the Ukraine trade deal that every other EU country accepted.)
  9. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    If Article 50 is revoked it will provoke an overdue shit storm within the UK about how the state is structured. I mostly blame Tony Blair for the constitutional changes made when he was Prime Minister - changes needed to be made but he ducked the difficult problems completely. The House of Lords reform (100 years too late!) did not provide an effective reforming chamber and Scottish devolution did not address Scottish MP's voting on laws that do not apply to Scotland. Before the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 the Queen could have forced an election onto a deadlocked parliament. Another referendum sounds good and will probably help to some degree but it will cause more uncertainty and may again produce a leave vote.
  10. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    I agree with hump...the only option for the UK parliament is going to be revoke article 50. This is by far the best option economically for the UK but I doubt that the EU will forgive or forget the disruption the BREXIT fiasco has caused. The consequences for politics in the UK will be bad. An earlier post talked about a wall between England Scotland. Since Hadrian's Wall already exists it just needs some repairs - it was originally a European project so maybe Farrage will go full Trump and demand that the EU pay for the rebuilding.
  11. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    Maybe not the prominent plonkers - Ress-Mogg & Boris but: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/12/brexit-vote-is-about-the-supremacy-of-parliament-and-nothing-els/ https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/12/12/was-wrong-brexit/P9xUZuE1OGjpkV1wxiZ79J/story.html I don't fully agree with these points but they are worth noting.
  12. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    Does anyone know how many problems the Norway-Sweden border causes? I know Norway separated from Sweden in 1905 but not much about why.
  13. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    I completely agree.
  14. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    Many of the BREXIT fans see BREXIT as gaining independence from the 'EU state'. I don't think the EU is a state but it is heading in that direction at a rate that makes many in the UK and across Europe nervous.
  15. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    BREXIT will hurt the EU but it will hurt the UK more. A crash out will cause more economic damage than anything else.
  16. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    I didn't ask this in the best way but many BREXIT fans of which I'm not one) believe the economic cost of leaving is worth the political freedom. This has applied in many places that obtained freedom at an economic cost either by peaceful break up - e.g. Slovakia/Czech republic - or through war (ireland, USA and many more)
  17. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    It's clear that almost everyone in this thread has no doubts about the EU or many of it's actions. As for you Black Sox I'm not going to waste my time.
  18. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    LeoV and Jack - you need to get into the real world and see what happens when the lender of last resort demands something. If you think these are anti-EU, tin foil hat needed newspapers there is no hope for you to comprehend this. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/revealed-the-troika-threats-to-bankrupt-ireland-30621197.html https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/jean-claude-trichet-letter-to-brian-lenihan-1.1989801 https://www.corriere.it/economia/11_settembre_29/trichet_draghi_inglese_304a5f1e-ea59-11e0-ae06-4da866778017.shtml https://www.ft.com/content/3576e9c2-eaad-11e0-aeca-00144feab49a
  19. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    OK, I agree the Norman invasion in 1169 didn't make Ireland part of the UK and the Pale of Dublin was only part of the island...
  20. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    https://euobserver.com/economic/114264 https://www.law.ox.ac.uk/business-law-blog/blog/2016/09/necessity-vs-legality-ecb-running-or-ruining-europe The ECB engineered the final denouement on interest rates to cause this - they put the word out they wouldn't buy Italian bonds and lent on their trading partners. Worked a bit of dodgy Italian legal process through the Italian president et voila! Similar to Greece.
  21. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    The best things May could do is hang on for another couple of weeks and then revoke the BREXIT letter. I don't see how the EU could get all 27 countries to extend BREXIT but the revocation could be unilateral.
  22. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    The Irish were part of the UK. They sacrificed economic gain as part of the UK for political freedom. Yes there was a guerilla war fought to 'boot the British out' but this doesn't change the premise that there was an economic loss for a political gain; at the time of the 1916 uprising there was a fairly small level of support for independence; the British mis-handling of the aftermath provoked the change from 'home rule' to full independence. I know others here don't agree with me but the EU engineered coups in Italy and Greece to replace elected governments with technocrats to do their bidding. They papered this with a weak legal fig leaf but coups they were.
  23. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    So you believe a hard border gives the IRA fuckers the excuse (right?) to go back to blowing some people up and knee-capping others?
  24. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    Jack - if you can't see a bit of similarity then you are being obtuse and should learn some history; I am half Irish with a grandfather who grew up speaking Gaelic and had returned from America to England before the 1916 uprising. It is economically best for the UK to remain in the EU. It is not clear to me that remaining in the EU is best for the UK as a society.
  25. Expatriated

    Brexit, WTF

    I know the Euro isn't the topic for this thread but the Euro is unsustainable without a banking and fiscal union, including substantial monetary transfers from 'surplus' to 'deficit' countries and regions. I know this happens with EU structural funds currently but they are nowhere near enough to maintain the single currency are for Italy and Greece - the Germans will not vote for this in the foreseeable future. I seem to recall that any newly joining EU member has to adopt the Euro immediately but i could be mistaken - a bit of Euro discipline would quickly stop the SNP's Nicola Sturgeon smiling. The Cyprus bank 'bail-in' shows how the rules are supposed to work in a future crisis; I suspect the Greeks will enjoy a moment of schadenfreude if & when Deutsche Bank fails...of course my Maltese trust will probably go to zero too so I will have an unhappy sailmaker! I do have an irreverent question for the Irish Republic folks here. In 1922 the Irish state split from the United Kingdom at a substantial economic cost but for political freedom; was this a mistake? If the answer is yes please explain why the United Kingdom is making a mistake in leaving the EU.