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  1. Helmets on Board Sucks

    In the one prospective, randomized, controlled trial of headgear in sports that I was able to find (a very large study of rugby players), there was no significant effect of padded headgear on measures of brain injury <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19127196>. PM me if you are interested and can't access the full text. It is worth noting that one's subjective impression of impact with and without a helmet is derived from effects on the skin, bone, sinus linings, meninges, large blood vessels, etc., since the brain, which alone among the contents of the head is subject to injury from deceleration in the range we're talking about, has no sensation. Historically, "common sense" has been a very unreliable guide in clinical matters.
  2. Helmets on Board Sucks

    The clinical data on this question are not very good or very clear. The best come from football and if there is an effect of helmets on concussion there, it doesn't seem very big. This may be because much of the acceleration-deceleration you mention is not linear, but rotational. Of course, there are no comparisons to no helmet. You are definitely right, however, about the prevention of skull fractures, which is why I wear a helmet every day on the bike. Skull fractures kill and kill fast. Want to mitigate concussion? Maybe develop a fluid damping system of some kind. I don't think rigid helmets will ever do much for concussion.
  3. Offshore harnesses / PFDs, yet again

    I don't like the Wichard clip and have enough trouble with the other one (Kong?), especially at O-God why am I doing this-thirty seven hrs with a scop patch behind each ear. It too has a hook, but not as pronounced as the Wichard. Being aluminum, it is also much lighter, which is good.
  4. Offshore harnesses / PFDs, yet again

    Any opinions on the Crewsaver Ergofit series? They have some very serious looking jackets with massive buoyancy and and AIS transmitters, available at great prices from a discounter in the UK. I am thinking of getting one for next season unless someone tells me they're rubbish.
  5. The Tom Ray Thread

    I'm actually with you both on MOST of this, but, I'm still noodling over the right to vote. I would suggest that anyone participating in our political process ought to have skin in the game by at least being legally bound by the decisions that they're voting upon. Rights of repatriation to their home country kinda seem like an "out" that might incent some to vote for an issue, cause a massive change, and then leave before the change has a chance to impact them. I haven't finished thinking it thru, but, it's where I am on the subject right now. I'm not a libertarian. It's too hard and can get you In all sorts of trouble... I found the solution to that problem. Just don't be a very good libertarian. Real ones would mostly consider me too much of a big government guy. That's probably because on some issues, I share Mark's view of them. Particularly with respect to rules about common property resources. Markets can't allocate those efficiently, no matter how libertarians may wish they could. And markets can't prevent the fights that will result when one person fucks with another person's water. Governments can do that. It's impossible for anyone to live an absolutist philosophy. Most libertarians I know, and even their Austrian heroes, carve out exceptions for stuff that markets, logically and demonstrably, can't do. It's the out and out hypocrites with zero insight that piss me off.
  6. Are Illegal Immigrants Also The People?

    I will just observe that the Constitution is imperfect and subject to interpretation. The powerful take advantage of this all the time and congratulate themselves on their Americanism. Maybe anyone actually can sneak in here and assume the rights of a lawful citizen.
  7. Are Illegal Immigrants Also The People?

    Sorry, I get easily confused and need to keep things simple. It seems to me there are just a few possibilities: The authors of the Bill of Rights meant different things by "the people" in the texts of the first, second and fourth amendments -> Illegals have 1st and 4th, but not 2nd Amendment protection or something. "The people" has the same referent in the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments -> Illegals are covered by all amendments or none. There is another, superseding, part of the Constitution of which I am not aware that specifically deprives illegal immigrants of the right to keep and bear arms. The 2nd Amendment refers to organized militia -> None of you bozos should be running around with firearms. Which is it, guys? ...and spare me the shoulds and shouldn'ts. When the Grabbers come after your guns, you refer them to the text and the court ruling and tough titty.
  8. Are Illegal Immigrants Also The People?

    The point is that a potential consequence of a finding that the second amendment did not apply to illegals, as part of "The People", would be that some other amendments wouldn't either. This could provide the basis for Nuremberg-type laws explicitly restricting their protections.
  9. The Tom Ray Thread

    I'm actually with you both on MOST of this, but, I'm still noodling over the right to vote. I would suggest that anyone participating in our political process ought to have skin in the game by at least being legally bound by the decisions that they're voting upon. Rights of repatriation to their home country kinda seem like an "out" that might incent some to vote for an issue, cause a massive change, and then leave before the change has a chance to impact them. I haven't finished thinking it thru, but, it's where I am on the subject right now. I'm not a libertarian. It's too hard and can get you In all sorts of trouble, like being a pacifist, but I admire people who can take and hold principled positions like that and acknowledge the logical implications and real world consequences, good and bad. I'm also a little sensitive on the illegal alien round up issue, my Dad and his family having been duly and legally designated aliens in their home country and marked for deportation to a ditch.
  10. The Tom Ray Thread

    Hey. Crack on Tom all you want--I don't like guns either--but consider this: The real fake libertarians here, which includes just about everyone who claims to be one, are all for the Constitution until it keeps the State from silencing, jailing, deporting, expropriating, spying on, torturing, or killing someone they hate. Our Tom, by contrast, seeks to extend constitutional rights to everyone including dangerous criminals, suspected terrorists, illegal aliens, rioting negroes, the mentally ill, who knows whom, because the guy knows that no one is safe from the abuse of state force when anyone is subject to it. I really encourage people to look at his Are Illegal Aliens Also The People thread. What a nutty idea, recognizing the constitutional rights of illegal aliens, including the right to keep and bear arms, on the other hand, what a magnificent and uniquely American one.
  11. Are Illegal Immigrants Also The People?

    I have only the vaguest notion who that is and would probably disagree if I knew more.
  12. Are Illegal Immigrants Also The People?

    I suppose they could try. The individual who was the subject of the topic case was brought here at age 4. If he's part of "the people" referenced in our Constitution, he has not only second amendment rights, but also fourth and first amendment rights. And if he's not part of "the people" then he has none of the three. Which kind of world do you want to live in? I suspect I'm with you here, Tom.
  13. Are Illegal Immigrants Also The People?

    Sure.... their own, not ours. They aren't a part of our government (vis à vis, our governed system) and so the taking up of arms by outsiders, illegally upon our soil, against our government is an act of war, not rebellion. OK, so they don't. Does the 4th amendment apply to them?
  14. Are Illegal Immigrants Also The People?

    I suggest some of you read what the original post was about. Tom, you have made my morning! So, if illegal immigrants have 2A rights, can they use them to overthrow a tyrannical government?
  15. Are Illegal Immigrants Also The People?

    I think we will shortly learn that illegal immigrants have no constitutional rights at all and are suffered to breath air by our mercy. That will certainly expedite the Great Roundup and their expropriated property will pay for it. Yeee hah!