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  1. A Class Sailor

    Larry's AC50 Circus

    There will be no development other than what has been done by a design team who have designed new foils, foil control systems and energy systems (battery powered). Teams will not be allowed to make any changes to the boats, the systems and the foils. While I am sure there was some sharing of information, it really wasn't needed if you use the right design team. All the design secrets are out. All the foils have been photographed and analysed in great depth. It's the reason why ETNZ were so late with their race foils, they didn't want anybody to copy them. We also know the secret of ETNZ's steady flight, the system that Blair Tuke operated. That in itself might not be that important because I suspect that they will be using more computer control for flight control than requiring somebody in the crew to keep altering it, my belief although i have not been told that. Most of the teams had pretty good automated systems that they used to learn how to sail the boats (obviously they couldn't use them in the racing) so it seems like the most logical way of evening things out.
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    Larry's AC50 Circus

    You could not build whatever you wanted inside a described volume. I have the details at home in the UK, but it will be a while before I'm home, but I am 100% certain that there was not the flexibility you describe. I am a bit busy but the link I gave was one of many i could have provided. The shape of the wings were closely prescribed and were effectively a one design shape. That was the whole point of the wing, to stop people spending a fortune on developing the shape. They provided that but left the flexibility to allow teams to decide on the structural strength of the components (which had the potential to allow components to twist) and the control systems. The slot is the gap between the 2 elements. It is set by a control system and has nothing to do with the shape of the elements. The slot is continually adjusted for the conditions, point of sailing and the amount of camber that has been induced into the wing. The rule simply set a limit to how big you could allow the slot to become, which is a control system issue, and the control systems were not one design. I hope that's making sense.
  3. A Class Sailor

    World Sailing Vote ... Proposal M36

    Saw this last night on Facebook, where somebody noted that the WS Council has almost never followed the events recommendations of the Events Committee. I tried to go back and check whether this is correct and it does seem to be. It's going to be a long day in council before this is decided.
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    Second US Team

    Thanks Terry. Agree with you. It's what makes it so hard for 1st time teams. To be a first time team who hasn't even started yet and therefore so far behind puts them in an impossible position
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    Second US Team

    You are getting confused. Nobody said they were behind the design curve. They were always well up on that because they had their own computer models developed over many years of AC campaigning. They were behind on the building and launching of their boat, which is something they admitted to. They also admitted that they would have done better to get to Bermuda earlier but in the end it didn't matter because they had the best design. After AC34, they never really stopped working on their design tools and began designing their boat for AC35 as soon as the rule was available and then again, when the rule was changed. What you seem unable to grasp is that you cannot set up a team one day and start designing the next. One of ETNZ's great successes was their simulation program which allowed them to accurately forecast exactly how the boat would sail and what the optimum settings would be, so much so that they used it to set targets for the sailors to aim at. The software developed in house is what makes a team competitive. ETNZ has been developing their own software for many years. We are now at the point where the established teams have those tools in place and are designing. Any new team is playing catch up on design already, but without the software development, they are so far behind they cannot catch up. For the second US team to beat the first US team, the first one needs to seriously screw up.
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    Second US Team

    Which means they aren't a reality yet. How many times do we hear that line and it comes to nothing? A team "trying to secure funding" is nothing. I guess that would be the same people who are pedalling the BS about it only costing $50m to do a competitive campaign. The biggest challenge is setting up the design office and developing the design tools needed. These cannot be bought off the shelf. Anybody without all of that in place now is well behind the curve and money can't help you catch up.
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    Larry's AC50 Circus

    Larry isn't stupid but you are. Why does it matter that OR is dead and buried? You do not need an AC style team to compete in this event. You simply need to contract some sailors and support staff for the duration of the sailing, like most VRO's do with their sailing. As for him blowing his fortune, do you know how rich he is? You do realise that he earns something like $50m a week from his dividends etc. The cost of funding the whole thing is pocket change for Larry. As for him not doing it because he would just be a spectator, I didn't realise he was a professional tennis player, because he owns the Indian Wells Masters Tennis tournament, or is it because of his love of tennis? You are correct that Ellison isn't funding the AC50 series He is jointly funding the boat development with Torbjorn Tornqvist, and they are underwriting the costs of the rest of the series. As they already have a major sponsor signed up, and other teams, their underwriting responsibilities are unlikely to lead them to need to spend much more.What's the most Larry might be spending? It's hard to see it being more than $15-20m which is half a week's earnings or 0.033% of his net worth. That really sounds like "blowing his fortune"
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    Larry's AC50 Circus

    Yet again you are talking out of your arse because you know nothing and have no imagination. Ever heard of electricity and batteries, instead of grinders. It's what the teams used in training before they worked out how to spin up enough hydraulic fluid. Instead of your predicted dumbed down, this ensures they never run out of hydro and the ability to make adjustments. It also equals up the playing field.
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    Larry's AC50 Circus

    sclarke We were talking about the ESS and you show a promo for the GC Racing Tour. While they use the same boats, you do know there are fundamental differences. BTW, did you notice in the first promo they showed no more than 5 seconds of upwind sailing. That's because it is boring. If you really cannot see how an AC50 tour would be much more exciting than the GC32's, you really do have your head buried in the sand. If you don't think the sailing we saw in Bermuda made the ESS and GC32's look tame and boring, you weren't watching the same thing as the rest of us. Change it to fleet racing and it will be in a whole new league. As for the AC50's, they will have only 2 people grinding, you will see proper trimming of the wing and the jib because that is part of what is happening to make them one design. As they need to change sail/wing controls/sheets to being all the same, they are going totally manual.
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    Larry's AC50 Circus

    Now you are just being ridiculous. The ESS is nothing like what an AC50 will be. Have you watched the ESS? Didn't you notice that it was rather different from watching the AC50's? Did you see foiling on all points of sailing? Did you see foiling tacks? Did you see flying 100% of the time? Did you see 25+knots upwind and 45 knots downwind? The ESS is boring by comparison with watching AC50's.
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    Larry's AC50 Circus

    That is nothing short of paranoid rubbish. The reason why so many people want to see the AC50 series happen is because They are great boats and it would be good to see more of them Fleet racing AC50's will be like no other sailing around The AC50 series will be completely different to the AC, because it will be a travelling circuit, fleet racing and one design. There is loads of room in sailing for more super fast sailing series.
  12. A Class Sailor

    Larry's AC50 Circus

    On this forum, for one. Offshore1 reports that Core are working on the boats. Just because it isn't published by a journalist or there is no press release doesn't mean that it isn't a "report". In this day of social media, forums like this is how a lot of stuff is reported. SA has always had well connected people post "reports" that are later furtyher substantiated by a press release. In the case of the AC50 circuit, there are now so many different sources and reports that you have to have your head well and truly up your a#%e not to believe it is probably going to happen. Or do you think that a widely diverse group of people who have no relationship to each other are all posting stuff they have made up?
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    F18: who takes the main upwind?

    It doesn't really matter who it is. The issue is that people need to be more thoughtful than simply accepting a general rule. IMO, those who blindly state the crew takes the main upwind are being just as bad as somebody saying the helm should hang onto the mainsheet upwind. People need to learn to think about what best suits their particular situation.
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    F18: who takes the main upwind?

    You are all wrong The correct answer depends on the crew, their strength and experience plus there is the personal preference of the helm. For most, this means the crew takes the mainsheet but there is at least one top F18 team here in Australia where the helm takes the mainsheet.
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    Team Australia

    Sorry! Not sure what happened but it was Indio's mad rantings i was meant to quote.