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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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  1. Think you are the clueless twat.Let me be specific. I know that Glenn designed the wing systems around how he wanted to trim the wing and that Glenn signed off every single design decision. So you fuck off.
  2. Why was ETNZ faster? 2 words. Glenn Ashby. Anybody who knows him will understand. Pretty sure the way the wing worked was all down to him. He is the best cat sail developer and the best wing trimmer. Add the 2 together and you have something none of the others thought of. As skipper he kept the whole thing together. It's just a shame he didn't get a Gold in 2008 to complete the set, because he deserves it. Greatest cat sailor of all time and one of the all time sailing greats.
  3. I won't be near my boat for a couple of weeks so hard to get a photo, plus it is under the tramp, but I will try to do a diagram if I get a moment. On the A we need to move our weight far more than i suspect you do! To start with, we have 2 loops, one at the very back and one at around the rear beam. I rarely use the forward one. The rear foot goes in the rear loop. When I need my weight back, I am standing with my feet reasonably close together particularly to get up on foils, but once up and running, I then move my front foot forward. If you look at film of some of the very top A sailors, they are often standing with their feet wide apart. It might not look cool, but it gets the weight forward and also keeps you on the side of the boat better. If conditions are stable, I might shift my rear foot to the forward strap and sail with my legs closer together, which probably feels more natural but is less stable. Here is a picture of Stevie Brewin with his legs close to 1 metre apart! If it's good enough for a multiple national and world champion, it should be good enough for us lesser mortals! Note the rear foot is in the rear strap but you can see the more forward one. As he needs to, he "walks" the side of the boat, effectively moving his weight nearly a metre.
  4. Doug Why have you posted the same video twice as if it was something new? But seeing you have I decided to time the sailing. There was a total of 51 seconds in which you could see whether the boat was fully foiling or not and of that, only 12 seconds showed Maserati fully foiling. It seems that a lot fo the time it is only sailing with foil assist or not even trying to foil. Just look at the damn video!
  5. I just read Charlie's post above. I cannot believe you are sailing a foiler without footstraps! That's nuts.
  6. Sorry, but that is absolute rubbish. Centre sheeting gives you the security and anchors you into the boat. This is why rear sheeting is now a thing of the past in A's. People who absolutely hated the idea of having to learn something new have ended up changing for no other reason than it makes it so much easier to stay on the boat. You don'ty get guys like Darren Bundock changing the way they have sailed for 30 years unless there is a real benefit. It might sound counter intuitive that having a mainsheet pulling from ahead of you helps you stay at the back of the boat, but it does because as pointed out above, it gives you something to brace against. I made the change a couple of years ago and while it took me some time to get used to it, the benefits were immediate and significant. Not only do you stay in the side of the boat better, but it means that the traveller no longer gets pulled up when you sheet on as can be seen in the video. Another big change away from cat conventional systems has been with the traveller. We no longer attach it to the end of the mainsheet because when you are on the trapeze and foiling, going around the marks, pulling the slack out of the mainsheet to find the "end" takes too long when you need to be sheeting and steering. We now lead the traveller control under the tramp and split it to both sides on a continuous system with the key line running along the side of the boat. Now you just reach in a little, grab the line and ease it (or pull it!) and you have moved the traveller in no more than 2 seconds without coming in off the wire. Before this change, too many people were having too many swims as they lost control at the marks adjusting the traveller, or they slowed down so they could come into the boat which loses a lot of ground. In general, A's have developed new ways for the systems to run so that you do not have to come in off the wire at mark roundings and that you can adjust everything from both a forward upwind position and while trapezing at the back of the boat.
  7. Are you telling us that they sail along with somebody actively adjusting the main foil all the time as the boat sails along? If you are, you are wrong. It is adjusted for the conditions and left. It is not an active system like the wand is or being adjusted like we see on the AC boats.
  8. Tells us everything. You think that is a complement! Idiot!
  9. No, No, No! Why do you think you should be the one to "enhance the recognition" by changing how it is written. Your arrogance astounds. You are the only person who capitalises the U in mid sentence. If you want to use page 26 of the M&M paper as precedence, then why don't you also capitalise the first letter of Foil every time? The styling of the word "uptip" to appear "UptiP' is solely your invention and not used by anybody else. Does it make you feel important? The only reason for enhanced recognition is because of ridicule and you don't even realise it. People shy away from the term to avoid any chance of being associated with you.
  10. Here we go again. The 2 systems are not identical. Doug loves to brush over the differences, such as the wand controlled central T foil on his toy which is very different from the manta ray style foil on Maserati which can be changed through manual use of a hydraulic system but is actually a passive system rather than the active wand of Doug's toy. Everywhere else Doug makes a huge point about the differences between active wand systems and non active systems but in this case, he chooses to ignore them. In addition, with Doug's toy the intention is that the windward v foil is out of the water with the boat heeled while with Maserati the boat is designed to sail with both down and to be level Also not the rudder foil set ups are different, but other than those 3 major things, they are identical. Funny how in this video we don't get very much, if any, full foiling. Seems like for some of the time it will only be foil assist.
  11. Yet again Doug, you are being a complete arse. Are you telling us that BAR don't know what they are talking about when they use the term V foil for the foils you refer to as "uptips". It seems that the only person who gets confused and hung up on this is you. If the vast majority of people, including AC teams call them V foils and we all understand what is meant, why can't you?
  12. That might be your thinking, but it is not what we find with the majority of the A Class fleet. It does take the "weekend warriors" like myself time to achieve stable flight, but we are now seeing most of the fleet foiling to a pretty good standard without having to sail 3-4 days a week. I don't know of anybody in Australia sailing 3-4 days per week. I also note that having followed Charlie's progress in the S9, it took him about the same amount fo time to get decent on that as people are taking to learn to foil an A. Although there seems to be a lot of similarities between how you need to sail the S9 and an A, there are also a lot of differences and you need to learn what those are and how to sail the boat. The other huge factor is how you set the boat up. 0.5 degrees difference on the rudder foils or 100mm difference in the position of the main foils can transform a boat. I still believe that 75% of foiling A's are not correctly set up, because nobody has written a guide and even if they did, we are learning so much so fast that it would be out of date as soon as it was written. Even the development of the foils is transforming how difficult the boats are to sail. I have heard that the prototypes are now up to Z19's, which have made foiling so much easier, with early take off, flight stability and top speeds. When I changed from Z5's to Z10's, the difference was astonishing and i am told the new foils make a far bigger difference. I am waiting until after the worlds to see what is the best in terms of foils and then will upgrade. As for ita16's boat, I wish him all the best. It's an interesting experiment with the rig which is exactly in the development spirit of the class and should be applauded. I hope the lack of Z foil sailing experience and set up doesn't hide the potential because if this is a good direction to go in, it would be a shame for ita16 not to get the benefit. Although it has been tried before, this seems like a far better sorted effort.
  13. Great video and good to see something happening to introduce and coach sailors in the art of foiling. One thing stands out watching the video. On the A's, we have found using rear sheeting makes the game so much harder, for a number of reasons, so everybody has moved the sheeting point forward into the middle of the tramp. If you watch the video, you will spot that puling the mainsheet in sometimes pulls the traveller and this is not good. We have also found that if you are sheeting from the middle of the tramp, the forward pull gives you something to brace against and it makes it far easier to stay on the side of the boat. Even the most diehard traditionalist has gone to centre sheeting. I think it would be well worth trying.
  14. This tells us everything we need to know about DL and why he is irrelevant to any serious conversation on foils. And he accuses us of not understanding. He was made to look stupid on the AC threads with his obsessive ill informed comments and this only continues. It is a shame we cannot have a proper and informed discussion with DL. Doug You need to learn to be open minded and to stop being obsessed by one theory. You ended up looking stupid on the AC threads both with the term "uptip" and with the ridiculous idea that teams would only use one design of foil. You would both gain and offer so much more on this forum with flexibility and a willingness to challenge your own thinking, rather than defending it at all costs. I guess it is unlikely to ever happen because people have been saying this to you ever since you appeared on forums, but we can live in hope because if you did, this would become a richer place and I suspect you would get more enjoyment out of it, rather than, I suspect, a sense of frustration.
  15. The theoretical number for righting moment from the windward foil when in the air must be a minus. The section, as can be seen from the pictures above, is so asymmetric that it will never produce lift in the downward direction. W can only be seeing theoretical light upwards, but I am sure it is so small it is lost in the noise. I suspect that the real concern is to ensure the windward foil produces the least amount of drag possible when in the raised position which is why we see cant used to get the foil in a better position when raised.