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    Hancock

    Well, in this case he crossed a line and went too far. I hope he has realized it. He still has a chance to avoid being considered in the same sewer category as posters like Randumb.. He could make a short apology, and offer that it was not his intention to detract from the loss of John Fisher. Here is a suggestion : " On re-reading an article I wrote following the loss of John Fisher, I realize I made some assumptions that were rightly perceived as insensitive to Volvo Ocean Race organizers and Scallywag team members who were grappling with a tragic loss. I offer them and the VOR teams my heartfelt apology. There is nothing so heartrending as losing a crew member at sea. I allowed my feelings to be channeled into anger rather than a more supportive and constructive dialogue. That was wrong of me. I want to express again my condolences to John's family, John's team mates, his competitors and the VOR organizers. We will only really learn from this incident and improve the safety of crews racing in the Southern Ocean by doing a calm debrief of the incident with all the facts in front of the group doing the debrief. In hindsight, comments like mine, shooting from the hip without the facts were not helpful. My sadness and anger at hearing the news overwhelmed my common sense. I hope that when the next version of boat for the VOR is designed, particular attention is paid to providing a more sheltered environment for the crew against waves breaking over the boat. I should have made this comment as a general comment based on watching the video action during the VOR and my own experience in the Southern Ocean from 30 years ago and not in the context of John's death. We have lost a courageous sailor and his memory deserves a respectful debrief of what really happened"
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    Hancock

    Hancock has not always had a modest opinion of himself. Here is a comment from one of his websites (no linky because why give him hits) Anyway......I think Brian has had enough of a roasting. Some of his stuff is good. Some is very bad. I suspect he wrote the FP article in a hurry to make a timely and controversial statement. I suspect and hope that he probably regrets it now. Despite the ill-advised tenor of his article, at the end of the day, Brian does belong to that smallish community of sailors who have raced around the world. He probably values being part of that community and doesnt really want to be ostracized for something he wrote on impulse which garnered much more attention that it deserved. He has discovered the power of the internet to magnify mistakes. Silly bugger. He would gain a lot from making a short and unambiguous apology.
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    Hancock

    Complete respect!
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    Hancock

    Like Brain Handcock? He's already decided who to blame before the crew have even reached shore or VOR management had a chance to conduct an investigation. I am sure that VOR wants to start gathering facts but despite those who view them as some kind of ghoulish capitalist pigs, the reality is that most of the people in the organization are first and foremost sailors who realize what it must be like for the crew of Scallywag at this time. Their priority...and IMO, the right one.....is to provide support to Scallywag. When Scallywag is safely in port at Chile and everyone is warm and the right emotional support is in place, then there can be a supportive and understanding debrief conducted by people who truly understand the modern boats, the conditions and what can go wrong. Guvacine is right, it will not be one of us. But I can guarantee they wont be flying Blind Handcock out there either.
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    Hancock

    Because the first two editions had pathetic attendance and next to zero coverage. The OP was asking for factual evidence to support or dispute whether BH is well qualified to advise Volvo Race management and pontificate on how it should be done. He is not. I will have a wager that neither Volvo Ocean Race Management, nor any of the teams, nor any of the skippers, nor any of the crew members, nor any of the designers will ask for any input from BH. I doubt that a man or woman among them considers him relevant or worth paying attention to. It is already well known that the boat design is being replaced for the next edition. It is obvious that crew safety will be a major factor in any design criteria. It is obvious that the design teams and race management will seek detailed input from the skippers and teams. It is also obvious that the Scallywag MOB incident will be carefully and factually reviewed as part of this process AS WELL AS other incidents that were not fatal. BH adds nothing, absolutely nothing in terms of insight to that process. The conspiracy theory nuts who are suggesting that VOR management and the designers deliberately commissioned a dangerous design in order to increase excitement and viewership.....are just that....nuts! There will always be nut cases appearing at random in situations like this.
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    Hancock

    Now that's a discussion that would be greeted with a lot of enthusiasm on these forums!
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    Hancock

    The Chinese fisherman certainly counts as a human tragedy. He doesn't count as "the seventh crew member to be lost at sea in the Volvo/Whitbread" . The article implied a succession of people who had been washed off the deck of the Volvo One Designs and lost at sea. There is one person who has been lost at sea off a Volvo 60. One is too many, there is no need to exaggerate. I think that more serious people than BH with real experience in sailing in these kind of boats will give careful thought as to what design changes can be made to the next generation of boats to continue to improve crew safety. I would be very interested in the opinions of skippers such as Bouwe who has sailed both versions in the V60 and can compare their safety features with prior editions. But those serious people realize that this is just not the time to crow about how they were right and claim that the Volvo 60 was a death trap. This is a time to mourn John Fisher.
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    Hancock

    Of those seven tragedies : 3 occurred in the first race in 1973 in much slower designs. All were MOBs in the Southern Ocean The 4th occurred in 1989 when Tony Phillips was washed overboard from a massive 80 foot sloop in the 89/90 edition. The 5th was when Hans Horrevoets lost his life falling overboard from ABN Amro Two in 2006. ABN Amro was a Volvo Open 70, not a one design. The 6th was John, who was the first to be lost from the Volvo since it started using One Design boats. AFAIK, there was not a 7th but maybe I missed one. I get the impression that Hancock avoids letting facts get in the way of his rants.
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    Hancock

    But you have to admit that the Portimão Global Ocean Race has been a rip roaring success. "Brian Hancock formed a partnership with an old friend and together they launched a brand new around-the-world yacht race, the Portimão Global Ocean Race" If only Volvo would listen to the advice of Brian, they too could have a success on their hands like the PGOR. .
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    Getting back into sailing

    Good advice. Buy a cheap single hander. Join local sailing club. Beat the crap out of your inexpensive boat and learn to sail well Make friends. Decide if you want to take the next step in single handed sailing and advance to a new Aero or go down the foiling route with a Moth variant or decide you want to sail double handed with the new friends you made and decide together what double handed boat you want . Your first boat will not be the one you end up with.
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    Hancock

    Surely you've heard of the Portimao Global Ocean Race?
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    VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    Brian Handjob. Try and keep up
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    VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    I would like to accept that invitation. What a complete wanker! Deepest respect to John Fisher and sincere condolences to Kirsten and the two kids. Also sending our thoughts to all the men and women racing in the Volvo, braced on deck or trying to get sleep below. They will be contemplating this incident and Im sure many of them knew Fish well.
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    VOR Leg 7 Auckland to Itajai

    If anyone reading this thread knows John Fisher's family, please know that they are very much in our thoughts and prayers at this time.
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    FP Lawyer up bro

    I am a lawyer and I think this was a complete waste of time. The management consultants might earn a fee advising SHK on their PR processes but any semi-competent lawyer would have taken one look at that video and told the plaintiff "There is no case here" Im no fan of Witt but I do agree with his lawyer when they said "I have no idea what we are even doing here" I find it a bit sanctimonious of Brian Handjob to pontificate about how inappropriate the case was, while at the same time give himself a pat on the back for bringing it to everyone's attention. Handjob's verbose and meandering front page articles are enough to make me miss Clean! At least Clean was entertaining.