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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.

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  1. I try to stay away from SA but here are the facts. I hired a guy to do the work on my first Evelyn a few years back .I had no experience. It needed alot of work. He used 3/4 inch plywood bulkeads and wrapped them with carbon. Per the workers recomendation. The same with the sump. The new boat we did most of the work. The bulkheads were already replaced with plywood so we left them. We used 3/4 inch plywood in the sump and glass to tab everything in. No carbon was used. I weighed the boats. They weigh exactly the same. They are exactly the same speed. In a breeze I would still take my first Evelyn with the Diesel inboard and a 6 second credit. Wish I never sold it !! I sent pictures and an exact descriptions of the work and materials that were done to YRALIS last year. They said nothing I did warranted a rating change. I take racing very seriously. I use Fries sails (which are amazing) and both boats have a Waterline bottom. I am very luck to sail with a very talented crew. I will not get into a SA pissing match with a bunch of people who can post anything they want with fake names. Everyone has there opinion. I respect that. What I know when it was blowing 30 plus on the last Sunday at AYC I was happy I was on a structurally sound boat. Many Evelyn's have had serious structural failures including Remedy. I am not going to put my crew at risk. The bottom line is these are 30 year old boats. 30 years of racing takes it toll. I made sure the boats we're put back together so they were structurally sound and safe. Those are the facts !! After racing the X-34 I think thats going to be my new boat !! Brad
  2. So ridiculous Espo if the boat is so great why don't you buy it? There is nothing illegal about the Evelyn. insulting the PHRF committee is really not right. I understand you lost to us and are looking for a excuse but enough is enough. I actually came across a nice J29 MH. Maybe I will buy it and bring it to Waterline to do the bottom, have John make me a set of sails and bring it to AYC That would be fun !!
  3. John, I heard from a friend you were making false accusations about my Evelyn 32 on this forum. Let me be clear. My Evelyn 32 is 100% legal which has been confirmed by ECSA and YRALIS. I know you sent a letter to YRALIS PHRF committee. I assume you know the outcome of there investigation. 100% legal !! The only modification I made was going to a longer E which was reported. I have spent alot of time and money on the Evelyn to make it a competitive boat. John Fries has seen my boat many times. Feel free to talk to him about it. I bought Remedy from John in 2009 and there is no question Remedy was at least as fast as my Evelyn is now and it was a inboard we owe 6 seconds too. Everyone told me that Remedy was a cheater boat. I had Remedy inspected and measured by ECSA and they confirmed it was 100% legal. My wife did not want me to own two racing boats and I made the mistake of selling it. We had better results with Remedy than my current Evelyn. I would never ever sail a boat that was not 100% legal. I want to win because we sail well. 3 days at AYC were sailed in light air. I had just had the bottom done at Waterline LLC. The bottom job made a huge difference in performance. I think the Evelyn is a better boat in light air the the J29. John Fries agrees. When the breeze came up Sunday you beat us in both races. Huster was really fast. I do not think you sailed on Hustler the second weekend. We have a very experienced team and I do not think you have raced many boats with the talent we have.You know that. We really looked forward to racing you guys at AYC SS because Huster is one if the best PHRF boats on the east coast. I am sorry that you losing has resulted in all this mud sliniging. I do not want to get into a back and forth thing on a online forum. I just want to set the record straight with you. I decided to post this because a competior said something to my 17 yr old son (our bowman) about your false accusations, I could not let the lies go unaswered. It was time to end the BS. An apology would be nice not just to me but the entire XLR8 team. On a more positve note. I see you guys are racing in the AYC fall series. Loooks like a 90 boats. Good luck !! My crew has to many family obligations to race. I also heard John bought another E32. Have not heard the details. He is a very talented sailmaker/sailor. He obviously knows how to set up a Evelyn and he will have good sails !! . Should be a very tough boat. It will bring everyones game up. On another note I do appreciatte your kind words about Mark. It was and still is a very sad situation. I hope this ends this once and for all Brad