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  1. Binnacle Bat

    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Which thread? The way I read his profile, lilmurray's account was logged into a couple of weeks or so ago, but hasn't posted on SA at all since around the time of the "launch". Come on lilmurray, it's safe to come out now. Allan
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    137 nm in a week comes to an average speed over the bottom of 0.8 knots. Could have kept up with them in a rubber dinghy flying a medium sized umbrella. Allan
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    To give folks an idea of how strong tempered glass is, last year I replaced an old 7068 slider (insulated glass, wood frame rotted out) Took it to the recycling center and tossed both sashes in (with assistance, couldn't have single handed it so they must have weighed 80 lbs at least). None of the 4 pieces broke. Besides, FH's sliders are in the lee, and somewhat protected. HR appears to be an "if it ain't broke don't fix it" kind of guy, and my guess that lack of chafing gear on the rode,or corroded and/or fatigued fastenings on his winch/bitts/windlass/bow cleat/whatever will send him drifting across the bay with neither sails nor engine available to keep him off the lee shore. The mess in the bay area promises to be big enough that he probably won't make the news, unless it manages to catch on fire. Allan
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Of course the FW has 8' of headroom. Houses have 8' of headroom don't they? They do indeed often have 8' of headroom, unless the joists are undersized, in which case mileage will vary. Allan
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Click on your username at the top of the screen Select Manage Ignore Prefs from the drop down menu. Start typing "Fle.." in the Add a New User to My List box until the User Who Will Be Ignored's name shows up. Select, and enjoy the tingly clean feeling. There will be a lot of This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore posts by Fletcher Christian. View it anyway? but ignore them. Peace Allan
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Ignore is a truly wonderful thing. Is there any way to know who is ignored by the most people? Allan
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    If you want to see a bunch that make Rod Rod Lane & Mr McKay of Raw Faith look like professionals check out http://pacificiceberg.org/ Our buds at WBF have a discussion going: http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?170793-quot-Pacific-Iceberg-quot The mind boggles. Allan
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    "watch the Am CUP in style" that's pretty funny. I'm having trouble figuring out in which style one would watch (or have watched) the AC in. The outside is sort of 1962 Bakersfield motel, there is a little bit of Art Deco in the chairs in the saloon, and the rest of the interior is primo 1960s basement rec room with a nautical theme. I'm not at all sure how well she'd have stayed in the spectator area keeping the race clearly in view with the typical SF Bay breezes, Does Sausalito allow house boats to be chopped up into condos?
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    On the other hand woodchucks love broccoli. Sounds like one of those "hold my beer; watch this ,,," moments. Round here if you see a raccoon the assumption is it's either roadkill or rabid.
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Of course he could claim to be a "dockside attraction" like Bounty, so he would be legal for three hour cruises, so long as he cast off neither bow line, stern line nor either spring.
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    What about stanchions and lifelines? I thought you had to have a fire suppression system in the engine compartments. That assumes you have an engine compartment. This requires an engine. I'm not sure that the collection of defunct Seagulls stacked like cordwood on the back porch count. My recollection is that a 6-pac requires taking a course, passing a test, writing a check, and a certain amount of documented sea time. Not at all sure that HR is capable of any of them.
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    It seems we are reduced to checking in to see which lee shore has claimed the FH, and have to wade through deep piles of troll poop to find out it ain't happened yet. Maybe we should all give it a break, and wait for real news.
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    McMullen You owe me another keyboard. Allan
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    HR's alleged comment about 35 knots reminds me of the time that I told a friend that I had gotten my racing dinghy up to 6 knots. He replied that "the only way my boat would go that fast would be if I pushed it out the hayloft door". Said boat is a respectable Chamberlain Dory with a loose footed spritsail rig, seaworthy but slow. Much better chance of making it to the big island than FH. Physics test: How far would FH have to be hoisted by crane and dropped to achieve a speed of 35 knots (ignoring aerodynamic drag etc.)?
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    and float past Charon on his empty return trip.
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    I'm guessing that this thread, and the FH, will end with not a bang but a whimper. Force 6 or 7, inadequate ground tackle, and a bony lee shore, and there will be more CDX stew than HR & Co. can cobble together a fix on. End of story, unless a film crew follows the victims for a while. Don't feed the Raccoons, they will become dependent on handouts. Any flotsam that makes it out through the GG will be at the whims of the wind and tides, not due to anyone's mastery of naval architecture or seamanship. The odds of this drama ending up with a chopper rescue off-shore, a la Raw Faith or Bounty, are infinitesimal. The supreme irony would be if the crew were rescued by a MacGregor 26, 'cause shoal draft & adequate horsepower let him get close enough in. This thread is like the war in Afghanistan. Goes on forever, nobody wins (excepting perhaps Guy, who will come out smelling like a rose, without a whiff of seawater or sex. Amazing how he can always manage to pull that off). To next year, in Oahu!
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Color matching dock boxes on the bow stern... check One big difference is that Larry E can afford red paint for his boat FB- Doug You'da thunk that Mr. Ellison, having spent several gazillion dollars on defending the dignity of the USA in the world's preeminent ego-contest yacht race, would be able to afford to fly the ensign of the USA in one of the acceptable ways on his chase/observation/whatever boats. That flag is about big enough to park in the grave of a veteran in the local cemetery on Memorial Day, but not on a boat that size (my local cemetery has folks who fought at Bunker Hill, and lots of battles ever since). Looks like it's at less than half mast, slid down over the VHF aerial. Someone thinks the Kiwis are going to whup their ass, and humility is required even now?
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Unfortunately you need to start paying a lot of attention to your lenses when you start wanting straight lines in real life to remain straight lines in photos, it's a common issue in architecture photography (the "falling backwards" effect if you stand at the base of a tall building and look up, for example), where they start using shift-tilt lenses: http://www.adorama.com/alc/files/41a7523241c64fb4f1f5f0aaf29dcb6b.jpg Also, I wonder if we might be seeing the "popping" of the seam as a result of dirt and crud getting into the weave of the glass from the tow, accentuating it compared to the relatively clean paint on the plywood above and below? Yes, cameras can distort things wicked, but mostly in wide angle lens situations. Crappy wide angle lens, tall building etc, and you can get all sorts of barrel distortion and need for perspective correction. Almost all the shots we have seen of FH have been long shots, usually tightly cropped, from about the same level, so that barrel distortion and perspective distortion are minimal. It's pretty clear to me looking at all the photos that the back porch was pretty flat at launch, but once the pseudo-harley & other stores were taken aboard, it started to sag, and the roof deck with it. The sag appeared to increase over time, until the hog, & HR, disappeared. Since then the sag seems to have stabilized. The bending stresses of a sizable bike on the back porch are negligable compared those encountered in gale at sea, with a 1,000 miles or so of fetch. By my calculations, by offloading the bike, the chances against the FH reaching Hawaii have decreased from 1:43,560 to 1:43,514. Cheers Allan
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Wow, tls, you fail Wood Engineering Technology. You need to back up and study a little more. Different specs of plywood are rated for different structural loadings and different stress directions as well as for moisture and rot resistance. The fact that they used CDX by itself does indeed tell everything an experienced wood guy needs to know about how likely this 65' foot catamaran will break up in a seaway or a tow. You are arguing from a place of extreme ignorance, my good sir. You have failed to bring an argument, only insults. You can definitely build a strong boat out of exterior grade (non-marine) plywood, including CDX. Lots of folks have done it. It isn't necessarily a good idea, but it does not tell you anything about whether the boat will fall apart. That has more to do with engineering and construction. I am pretty sure I've never failed Wood Engineering Technology, but that may be because that course was never offered in our university's engineering program. Of course that means nothing to an "experienced wood guy" like yourself. You've probably looked at the designs of 1000's of engineered wood products. I've been sailing for fifty years, and in construction for forty, and started throwing together quick and dirty wood boats about 30 years back. All boats fall apart eventually, or require major rebuilding along the way. Metal fatigues or corrodes, wood rots or suffers from electrolytic reactions, etc. There aren't any 100 year old boats floating about that haven't had a major rebuild, or at best are in dire need of one. I've built boats in a weekend out of 1/4" lauan that are still sound after 30 years. If they lived on a mooring for five months a year they wouldn't have made it past two years before being thrown on the burn pile. Being used only four or five times as a cartopper, and not having left the rafters of my woodshed for 20 years, they are in fine shape (or should I sat in almost as good shape as the day they were launched). If you want to build a boat that will cross oceans, be in the water 363 days a year (you're not going to haul, prep and paint the bottom of the FH in a day), and have the boat last the 30 years that under optimum circumstances that HR might expect to live aboard, you ought to use better materials than deck screws and CDX plywood. Not to mention that the scantlings and spacing on everything on FH are both less than half what they should be, even if using first grade materials, sometimes much, much less. So it's not at all a question of whether the FH will fall apart, just when. Reminds me of an old Bob Newhart bit about airplanes flying over water. "If we ditch, how long will she stay afloat?" "Well, sometimes they go down like a rock, sometimes they stay up for two, maybe three minutes". I'm guessing that the odds of FH making it to its "Home port" in one piece with its crew all well and happy, are about the same as the odds that HR has both a winning Powerball ticket and a winning Megabucks ticket sitting in his wallet in the Marin County Jail property locker. I'm off tomorrow to sail about Muscongus Bay Maine in company for a few days, so don't be offended if I don't reply promptly to snide comments or complaints about the lack of mammaries. My boat is over 50 years old, but has lived a very easy life, and was built more or less right, and has enough flotation that she won't sink. FH won't sink either, but none of the pieces in the debris field may be big enough to sit on.
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Damn Perspective can be a funny thing. They are big-ass saddlebags though. Still needs the treadbare sofa with hounds (you can't expect them to sleep under that porch, can you?) Note for the future - trikes don't lean over on kickstands. I just figured the back porch had sagged both ways. The old part of my house was moved to its present location 201 years ago. I can't assume anything is level, plumb or square. Casework here is like joinery on a boat, but not so much crown to the deck is needed.
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Damn Perspective can be a funny thing. They are big-ass saddlebags though. Still needs the treadbare sofa with hounds (you can't expect them to sleep under that porch, can you?)
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    I was thinking the same thing! The 'hulk of a rusty car' needs to be up on cinder blocks. Also, the back porch needs a few potted "medicine" plants. And for the love of life itself, someone get that man a railing for his back porch! Yes, railings/lifelines/handholds needed above and below decks. The '62 Impala on blocks would make a better anchor than HR has, but in this situation a good law ornament needs to float, so we will have to settle for the Bay-Liner. The Impala might be a good mooring, but I'm sure there isn't a capstan aboard adequate to use it as an anchor. In spite of the recent photos, I have no Idea how the rigging might work in HR's mind, nor do I really care. A mildewed old sofa is needed on the back porch, with a few lethargic hounds, to gild the red-neck lily. I can't f**king believe that after all the off topic ranting that has gone on lately about motorcycles on this thread, that I might be the first to notice that the "hog" in question is a f**king TRIKE! Might make a better anchor than we thought. On the other hand, with the appropriate tires for such a machine, it might float.
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Damn More that a month in the water, and his entire travels add up to about what would be a nice day sail in a decent sized dinghy (without the bike or the grill). At this rate he might make it as far South as Redwood City by next June, if the weather and his luck both hold.
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    Check Snopes, at lot of these are BS. http://www.snopes.com/horrors/freakish/darwin06.asp covers this list almost verbatim. They cite list as from 2006, and trier research showed the real incidents going back to the 1990's
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    65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

    The most comprehensive thread about FH on the Wooden Boat Forum is http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?136729-Could-this-be-Raw-Faith-II Only 750 odd posts, and a fair bit of the good stuff borrowed from SA. Some of them know their stuff, and can use words like scantlings without sounding affected. On the other hand next to no discussions of tits, or the lack thereof, who makes the crappiest motorcycles, or rantings of paranoid trolls. They don't seem to have any good agents on the ground covering FH. The original Raw Faith was another case of ego, blind faith and hard word triumphing over common sense, building a large boat, and eventually sinking. For those that don't know the story look it up.