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  1. Spindrift 2 Jules Verne 2017

    Well that completely sucks. At least it fell down very close to home I suppose.
  2. R2AK 2018

    Here is a video I took at the 2016 start in Victoria of Bad Kitty's splashy but seemingly well sorted prop system: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qyo242dvhnrwi15/Bad_Kitty_Drive_2016.m4v?dl=0 It's too bad we can't see the boats start at a line just in order to see how the drive systems perform in the first kilometer or so. As it is it's basically a reverse grid where the fast boats from Port Townsend end up farthest in at the dock in Victoria and then are last to leave. I need post some more of these videos. I have an amazing one from Ogden Point of 2016 winners and overall record holder Mad Dog Racing on the M32 going ridiculously faster than everyone else in light air. I shall try to edit some clips together for YouTube.
  3. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    And being made part of the Banque Populaire V crew, the only English member at that, for the Jules Verne.
  4. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    New sched and great to see TToP sticking to Mapfre.
  5. Another Interesting Home Built Steel Boat

    I was thinking about Zeyang when I was writing about Boatbuilder Gustav above. Sailing the Farm was a great project not least because it got done and went sailing but a lot of (young women) learned some great skills in machining and fabricating. The continued involvement of sane women in projects clearly correlates with, and maybe in some cases causes, project success.
  6. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    Well you know, like "What is in fact actually up with Witty?" or "Do you expect Peter Burling to express a keenness to get back on the water when interviewed right before the start of the next leg? Or "What is the radius of the patch of ocean that Martine Grael renders measurably more glamorous when passing through?" And last but not least, "Would you sack Mark Richards?"
  7. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    Just got an email from the Vancouver Aquarium about this special VOR event with Damian Foxall: https://www.vanaqua.org/experience/events/annual-and-upcoming-events/volvo-ocean-education-launch It's on Monday the 15th at 7pm at the Aquarium and is free. I will go, but will have to resist the urge to ask oddly specific questions.
  8. Another Interesting Home Built Steel Boat

    I am afraid that the submarines that Canada bought used off the Royal Navy some years ago were in approximately the same condition as this whale ship. Google "Canada Submarine Problems" if you must. If there was ever a used vessel transaction that in retrospect should have made it to "Mocking ads on Craigslist"......
  9. Another Interesting Home Built Steel Boat

    In the case above, there's nothing to suggest the whale isn't inherently seaworthy. A bit of windage to be sure, but the hull looks rational. Now that's a proper eccentric.
  10. there be pirates in the north sea

    I know where there is enough depleted uranium locally near my house to give that pirate ship a proper French keel. As Canadian kids my wife and I, at opposite ends of the country, watched Paddle to the Sea in school about once a year. Watching as an adult the original musical score really jumps out. Also how did they get all those animals to interact with it? Great they've cleaned up the Great Lakes a lot since then. If they made this today I would be as a cartoon and would be totally lame compared to this film.
  11. Another Interesting Home Built Steel Boat

    I was editing my previous post but had to retreat suddenly to the bar with work colleagues. I suspect in reading your posts above, Mr. Tu, you share to some degree my visceral distaste for these ill conceived low-skill boat projects. (not that we can't stop watching them as one observes the proverbial car wreck.) For me it's particularly depressing to consider what the lack of consultation with experts, such as buying actual plans, says about this person's understanding of the value of living in a functioning society. How could you be a middle class employed person in an advanced country and not get that there might be something more to boats than it looking roughly the shape of a boat on land? How could you function with this bad a case of Dunning Kruger syndrome? This Rusty Junk fellow is particularly terrifying as he doesn't come across as being otherwise that eccentric.
  12. Another Interesting Home Built Steel Boat

    Fah Kiew Tu at least you have to post some photos! Can you talk about how long you took for planning vs. building. Did you make up all your templates from plans in advance? It's cool to do the woodwork yourself.
  13. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    +1 on 6 hours being infuriating. Sure there may be only a few thousand super keeners but what sport doesn't cater to super fans and casual fans alike? And is the racing materially different between the first 48 live hours and now? The VOR seems akwardly caught between its romantic history as a pro-am adventure event with top teams and more human interest entries, and this newer phenomenon we here are pretty excited about featuring ultra close, real tactical sailboat racing with top pros across vast oceans. The continued 6 hour intervals suggest they have yet to embrace the excitement level of the actual racing we are seeing. Of course it's tricky because no one knows how big the audience is in 2018 for real sailboat racing, Sydney-Hobart controversies notwithstanding. But I will say the public has a sense for when they are seeing sport done at a high level and they tend to respond, so if I were VOR I would seek to dial back the "Life at the Extreme" business and dial up the real sailboat racing angle.
  14. Another Interesting Home Built Steel Boat

    Thank you Windward, I watched the series. This is the most pro hobby project in the history of YouTube. What a tour de force of retired master craftsman talent. I don't know why more people don't get that starting from a proper CAD model and getting everything cut out first is just way way easier and faster to build, gives better results and the CAD phase allows you to think about details for a long time before committing to spending money so you have better odds that you have figured out exactly what you really want from the project before you spend real money. I work this way with my small furniture projects, sending drawer boxes out for laser cutting etc, but this is the first time I've seen a home boat building project at scale done this way. Brilliant, and pretty cool he's basically built a European waterway boat which will be able to travel inland from Bremen to the Black Sea. More deeply the fact this guy can borrow/hire his super skilled local friends to help and they bring that much skill is pretty moving. Not to mention the neighbor coming along and saying how great the project is and not complaining to the authorities. It suggests a somewhat healthier society and community than these solo dreamers displaying varying degrees of Dunning Kruger syndrome who's marriages half the time go south partway through their quixotic quest.
  15. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    The last time we international social media sailing video fans saw this part of the world was the 2015(?) Moth worlds just on the inside at Sorrento. Featuring massive wind against tide and all round tough conditions. And Clean and Sailor Girl on the mics. That wind and tide doesn't disappoint.