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  1. Team Subterfuge

    NYYC Invitational IC37

    Now that's funny.
  2. Team Subterfuge

    More than 30 killed off santa cruz island

    In this case, a crewman finished cleaning the galley at 2:35 am and then went to bed. The same crewman was awakened shortly after 3:00 by a sound in the main cabin which he investigated. So, unless the "roaming" watchman is patroling on less than 30 minute intervals, it seems that the likelihood that the roaming watchman would have solved the problem is remote or, at least, uncertain.
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    More than 30 killed off santa cruz island

    I understand your point that there are statutory duties - such that an owner can have their license suspended, fined or prosecuted criminally. However, I believe a release does release liability for injuries or death by a releasing party - even liability based on statute, unless the release is against public policy.
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    More than 30 killed off santa cruz island

    Eriksson v. Nunnink (2015) 233 Cal.App.4th 708
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    More than 30 killed off santa cruz island

    Here is a release from another dive boat company. I WILL RELEASE XXX, LLC, Dive Boat XXX, its owner, and their employees and agents, including the boat Captain, and diver masters, from any and all responsibility or LIABILITY for any and all injuries or damages sustained by me or others. I WILL NOT SUE or make a claim against any of the above parties for injuries or damages sustained by me or others, whether it arises or results from any NEGLIGENCE or other liability. No mention that the release only applies once you enter the water.
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    More than 30 killed off santa cruz island

    After I saw a boat catch fire at the fuel dock, I thought his suggestion was spot on.
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    More than 30 killed off santa cruz island

    As for the limitation of liability, I am sure that everyone signed a Release of Liability before getting on the boat.
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    More than 30 killed off santa cruz island

    There was some comment about fire hoses being available. Not sure they would be of much use. When I bought a new power boat years ago, the salesman went throught the features and safety items. When he got the the fire extinguisher he said, "When it is time for one of these, it is time to get off the boat and forget about the fire extinquisher because a fire moves to fast." Automatic fire suppression systems seem like the only really workable solution when you don't have a lot of room from which to fight the fire.
  9. Was looking to get a gps antenna/compass all-in-one. What is the difference between the Airmar Compass GPS GH2183 and B&G ZG100. There is a big difference in price - about $780 vs. $200. Is there a functional difference?
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    More than 30 killed off santa cruz island

    NTSB reports what crew told investigators. Note: no fire alarms heard. https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/local/2019/09/05/conception-boat-fire-what-investigators-looking-at/2220611001/
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    More than 30 killed off santa cruz island

    Interesting quote for a link on Wikipedia - Sinking of MV Conception. Makes you wonder about the fire alarms. a crew member went to bed late after doing the dishes. He woke up just a few hours later to the sound of a pop in the dark, thinking someone was up and stumbling around. Instead, he opened a door to find the ship around him bathed in an intense orange glow, completely aflame, he recounted to a nearby boater after fleeing the ship.
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    More than 30 killed off santa cruz island

    Video of escape hatch exit here. https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/captain-of-conceptions-sister-ship-stands-up-for-colleagues?fbclid=IwAR2mYKA2h2XT2zsNsDYqSI98WR2XOz_ddMMz-yZJEzlMflgr-Ep5EdLa-Ws
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    More than 30 killed off santa cruz island

    A picture of the escape hatch from the sister ship Vision.
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    More than 30 killed off santa cruz island

    The emergency access from the bunk area leads to the end of the galley's main island. The primary ingress-egress from the sleeping area in the hull is a set of stairs at the front leading into the galley in the center of the ship on the main deck. The stairs go right up and into the galley area with no overhead obstructions,” he said. “There is also a rarely used, second emergency egress ... at the back of the sleeping quarters which leads up into the rear of the galley’s main island through a lid/hatch and door. https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-dive-boat-fire-community-struggling
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    More than 30 killed off santa cruz island

    Here is a detailed tour of the Truth Aquatics' Vision, which is slightly bigger than the Conception but has the same bunk layout.