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    Fiddletown, CA
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    Fiddling. Occasionally, faddling.

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  1. Coquina012

    nacra 5.8

    I went to look at the smaller boat. I mis-stated what it was. It is a 5.2, not a 5.7 Although older, the hull and sails all looked reasonably new. Better than not bad. The 5.8, which I might get to see tomorrow, has 5 sails with it, and the seller claims that one jib and one main are near new. He says it also has an older mylar main. Gelacticar, I am not educated enough about cats to gauge much beyond cosmetics. I also have the means and wherewithal to fix anything, the questions is how annoying will it be, and how much down time. So thanks for your very good input. I will bear those points in mind. I also have some competition from a Thistle and now a glass Wayfarer. When it rains it pours.
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    nacra 5.8

    Thanks, good info. I think I am going to buy based on boat condition. I hvae a 5.7 and a 5.8 for about the same price, with trailers, but the 5.8 is a late 80s (which I understand has a foam core hull as well as other improvements. FROM PHOTOGRAPHS, which we all know might not be current, the 5.8 looks to be good, garage kept condition. The 5.7 looks to be a bit weathered. Further competition from a Thistle with an anodized mast, which I really want for a planing skiff build I am prepping. These are nice problems to have--too many cheap boats knocking on my door.
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    nacra 5.8

    would a 5.7 without daggers be friendlier for a firsttime owner?
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    Sad, waterlogged Holder 12 monohull

    Concur. Fractured forefoot. The repair will be fugly, and effective. I will lay some 6" triaxle glass back and through the dagger board case slot.
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    nacra 5.8

    Thanks for the replies. Smaller sail for higher winds is a good idea. My wife builds them but I would think that Hobie sails that an be cut down or altered to fit would be cheap. Quite a few posts on google about difficulty of handling mast. I would not usually be singlehanding this boat but...
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    Sad, waterlogged Holder 12 monohull

    No. The ring is not totally hardened. It is certainly not cured epoxy, but I understood what you meant when you said resin. It feels like hard wax. I think I have found my leak. The hull has a bad crush point on the farthest forward roller. Now I am too far in to back out. I bought $35 worth of port hatches, and two kayak drain plugs. I am going to install the two plugs under the stern, in what would probably be the buttocks, or the futtocks, I never get that straight. Then I will seal up the existing interior drain and after the boat is flipped, lay a heavy layer of glass cloth, at least I will if the rotomolded plastic accepts epoxy. It is interesting to work on this thing. In some ways, the boat is too fragile, or at least, the trailer it came with has damaged it.
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    Sad, waterlogged Holder 12 monohull

    Sealevel, most of what I did this morning follows your logic. I cut two deck holes, suitable for the screw in plastic ports, and then got a visual. There is not visible foam--which surprised me. The hull is sitting with maybe 3" of water, and the mast tube (partner and step) is visible internally. It appears to have a wax ring similar to a toilet bowl ring at the joint between the hull and mast foot. It feels like wax to the touch. Retro repair or original? Can't say. The mast tube is standing with a good 16" of water. Going to flip the boat, slurry, then cut two drain plugs near the stern. Might fix the problem. IF not, boat goes to landfill or free on craigs.
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    nacra 5.8

    i have just found a late 80s nacra 5.8 for under a grand. Needs assembly, but that is no issue for me. I have never owned a cat, and I respect this one is going to be a serious hauler. I have no interest in racing, but I do like to go fast. Usual wind in a local lake is 8-12, unless weather system, when it can seriously roll. There would normally be two adults on the boat. My question: can the boat be controlled with main only, no jib, for something like the effect of reefing, and second, is this craft aggressive enough that children will be either in the way or too scared to have fun? I know my question is asking for subjective remarks, but if this beast can be rigged for tameness, I can't see how this would not be a win. I also have zero ego on The Cool Factor. I would have no problem putting in one set of reef points.
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    Sad, waterlogged Holder 12 monohull

    I should add a PS: I am an amateur wooden boat builder, and my fiberglass repair work has been glass cloth set in epoxy. This boat APPEARS to have a roto-plastic type hull. It doesn't seem exactly the same as the popsickle kayaks, but pretty close. Is this epoxy compatible? Of course I can just stick something and see, but if someone knows I will be grateful for commentary.
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    Sad, waterlogged Holder 12 monohull

    SeeLevel: all good suggestions. Have done that drill and drain suggetion, including teh wet vac. Have not glasses on the bottom, but easy fix. First I want to see if I can get the boat dry on the inside, before I waste more time. Salvageable if it's a half day, not more. Razr, "If foam is waterlogged, it's a a throwaway", meaning, if the foam is waterlogged the boat is a throwaway? I believe you are right if that is your meaning. For that reason I am cutting some panels this afternoon. I am going to get it out of my yard if it is not immediately repairable (I have 7 other boats). This little ripper is useful to me because I live about 7 minutes from Folsom Lake, and I can get this thing door-to-door sailing in 20 mins, including drive time. So...in the meantime, I am attracted to a Nacra 5.8 that is sitting around lonesome in a field not too far from here..maybe that should be my replacement. But I do not see the ease of in and out that I have with this little guy.
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    i550

    Interesting. That looks like the condos over on Treasure Island. Any idea where the boat is kept?
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    Sad, waterlogged Holder 12 monohull

    Yes, limber holes plugged--good guess. And no, the boat isn't worth much time. But I have it, and it is sitting there, and it might be salvageable. I am going to get a saw out tonight or tomorrow and cut some hatches, see if I can see into the hull enough to identify where the limber holes are. That is very likely what it is--causing water to stand, and then absorb over time into the foam.
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    i550

    So are plans shut down for a while on these? I am casting about for my next boat, I am not committed yet, but the i550 is for sure on the table. Does anyone have any plans they bought and changed their mind on? Not asking for plans on a boat already built.
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    Sad, waterlogged Holder 12 monohull

    Ride2Live: "Any free water inside the hull should drain out through the stern plug". Yes, I agree. And nothing is draining out. I have tilted the boat until it was nearly vertical, still nothing draining out. So there must be some bulkheads in there that are capturing the water, preventing draining and then absorbing into foam flotation. That is what I am basing my conclusion on that it is saturated, water logged foam. And I just stuck a ruler in the mast step (tube): 9" of water. Well, I am going to give about 2 more seconds of thought.
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    Sad, waterlogged Holder 12 monohull

    Feisty: Thanks for your response. I think it is waterlogged because : 1. Sloshing: more sloshing than a college girl at South Padre Island in March. 2. Mast Partner: the mast steps into a glass tube, which is internal to the decks. The mast tube holds about 12" of water right now, and its total length is about 16". If I vacuum the tube out, it will continually replace for a while. Eventually it will clear. 3. Escapade: the humorous event that led to my finally looking at this thing was turtling (I mean complete inversion) in about 18 knots of wind Saturday, with my wife. We turtled the boat because it started sinking. The boat acquired so much water that it eventually sat down about an inch above the top of the stern. It was impossible to trim the boat and we got caught trying to tack, and dumped the boat. On a different, colder day, we might have been in trouble. Instead it was hilarious. We had a hell of a sail getting back in, maybe 1 mile from ramp, barely afloat, and with much less steerage. This is a boat that I have sailed pretty hard for about two years, and it handles, as the hype says, like a Laser for two people. It will get up in a plane quick, maybe in 6 knots, and will blast on a reach or on a dead run. It is so waterlogged that it has none of its good characteristics. I have $500 in the boat with an excellent trailer, so if it is a give away, well, not the end of the world. I have 7 other boats, and this one had a specific purpose. I ould keep the trailer and be about break even, with two years of use. But your suggestion of coming in through a new hatch would give me a visual inspection at least. In an ideal world I would remove the whole deck, clean out the saturated foam, respray, turn the hull, epoxy the fissures, maybe run a strip of glass along the keel, and be back on the road after a half day of work. But in an ideal world it would be a wooden international 14, so, you know, disposable boat to an extent.