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  1. Key West Dead

    When I first raced in KWRW in 1994 on M24 the only pro's where guys running the big boats and the IMS 50' class. Everyone else was there because they wanted to be there for the great sailing and the night time fun. Now a days a large percentage of crews get paid raising the cost and pushing out the non pro teams. I do not have a problem paying crews but there are regattas and campaigns that should have pros and there are one's that should not. When I campaigned a star I paid a crew and a coach. You need a top crew to compete as a team plus when you ask a guy to give you 100 days of sailing a year he cannot hold down a regular job and take that much time off. Would I pay guys to sail with me on a J70 at Keywest? No, I would ask guys I want to have a good time with and enjoy their company. We might not win but we would do well and have a good time. So if you ask me the high dollar programs killed the middle fleet guys which dropped the numbers to where the pro only teams did not have enough of a turn out to cover the cost of running the regatta. An idea I have talked with other owners, should paid crews have to pay a maintenance fee or regatta fee to help support the event? It is a tax but they are the ones benefiting most from the regatta. No regatta no pay check!
  2. Team NZ

    Like an airplane the horizontal stabilizer pulls down and holds the nose up. When loading a plane keeping the weight aft reduces the amount the stabilizer has to hold up thereby reducing drag and increasing fuel efficiency.
  3. Blithering Brian Hancock

    Sounds like to me the Pro's at the top end have been doing a good job of talking the .001% into keeping them employed on different projects. I believe Pro's moving into the smaller one design classes is hurting the numbers. Back in the late 90's and early 2000 very few if any one designs like the E22, M24, J24, J22 had paid pro's on board. Now to compete at the top almost everyone has at least one if not the max allowed by the class. Paying $2k a day for crew on an E22 or M24 is beyond most sailors budget. Cost enough to have new sails and a travel budget. Buying a boat is cheap. Good E22 $40k, budget to race it in 20 days/5 regattas for crew and travel ect $60K a year. So yes, high end racing is doing fine. Most everything else the numbers are way off.
  4. Cyclone Anarchy - debbie

    Southern eye wall right over Hamilton Island now with gust to125kts. Will last for a few hours which will cause a lot of wind damage a big storm surge. Bad recipe to have.
  5. More like the frequentors of the website would not know what to do with her. To use to keyboard spanking!
  6. Optimist History

    Figured I would chime in since I have some experience with both. Sure the Opti is a box, and when I raced (I had US 38) so 38th US built opti (1975) it was pretty much the only training boat around. I started out in the Clearwater Pram which is the foundation for the IOD. As a kid growing up in Florida I traveled all over the state and my last few years I went to two worlds, Denmark 1975, and Turkey 1976. Also to two South American Championships Rio 1975 and Buenos Aires 1976. I met a ton of my friends which I still have today from back then, many from various countries that I see racing still. Additionally many of the kids went on to be Olympic medalist and AC sailors. One is a top cat and AC designer. Pretty good for sailing a box. Also the opt catches crap for the gaff rig. Isn't that what all the top boats have now with the huge top gaf batten? I taught Sabots when I was in San Diego one summer since I had some time on my hands. Boats might look similar but are totally different. Sabot was designed to be a tender that was towed behind a sailboat which could also be sailed around. Hence the leeboard and not a daggerboard where the water comes up the trunk when towing. It also has a lot more rocker and does not plane like an opti. It was also designed for the SOCAL light winds. First day with 15 kts of breeze which is no big deal for an Opti I found out had much the Sabot loves to dig in the bow and swamp. Forget about self rescue which most kids can do in the opti. How about traveling for the Sabot? Just SOCAL. Plenty of great sailors came from th Sabot class too, so not trying to bash it. Both boats are great trainers and do what they need to do. Are there better kids boats out there? Sure but not with the low cost and infrastructure that the Opti has. As for helicopter parents, show me any kids competitive sport and I will show you out of control helicopter parents. Manage your own kids and yourself and don't worry what the Jones are doing.
  7. Star mast question

    Good idea to use older practice mast until you and especially your crew get use to the runners. From outboard to inboard Upper into the lower fork. Then intermediate. The small end split fork of the intermediate should be bent a little or the same angle to let the intermediate line up. The lower from spreader tip to stay master is smaller diameter than the lower diagonal. Also make sure the smaller staymaster is on the upper and the larger on the lower diagonal. Seen someone break a rig with them wrong. The lower diagonal has a much higher load due to the wide spreaders.
  8. where are your papers?

    The last World Cup I raced in, Perth 2011 they required I believe $2M AUSD in liability insurance. My US policy holder would only insure to $1.5M US. The organizers had an insurance company available to insure anyone who pneeded it. I think it was close to $220 US for the regatta. So you can see which way things are going. Plenty of lawyers out there to go after the deep pockets. We are all paying for it. If you want to race an organized event it is going to cost money to cover all these cost that were not around 20 years ago.
  9. Two floaters in San Fransisco bay. Probably jumpers. One in Tampa bay looked like a bum who probably passed out and fell into the water.
  10. There is a website that pretty much does everything you are proposing. I use it a ton for trip planning. You can build routes and save them. You have to sign up for an account to utilize it fully. Activecaptain.com
  11. There was a study done awhile back that asked athletes if they would take a drug that would win them a gold medal even if they knew it would kill them in a few years. About 80% said they would. I practiced/ raced stars in the 2009 South Americans and 2010 Worlds in Rio. Total of 5 weeks sailing. Sure there was a lot of trash and pollution. A star crew is in the water probably more than any other sailor. I do not remember anyone getting sick or having issues. I did bring a lot of anti biotics and stuff for the squirts. Only thing we used was neosporin for small cuts. Not saying it is the best situation. However, reality is they do not have the money to clean it up. I think they will be able to keep most of the large trash off the race courses on race day. Just not the bacterial runoff that they promised.
  12. I have been watching/listening to the racing. I think they are doing a great job with the video and balancing the commentating without dumbing down the terms or getting all excited and yelling in the mic. Good stories on the sailors as well as explaining the tactics and the nuances of racing a star. Even though the wind is light and the spray is not flying it is still interesting to watch. Surprised there have not been more comments from the peanut gallery! Even Clean is there and has been supportive of the racing. I thought he gave up on anything with a keel.
  13. Boss Sinking?

    I think by canting the keel it puts the boat on its chine which reduces the rocking back and forth on the waves. They also might have had some damage to the trunk for the J board and were trying to keep it out of the water.