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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
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      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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  1. When I first raced in KWRW in 1994 on M24 the only pro's where guys running the big boats and the IMS 50' class. Everyone else was there because they wanted to be there for the great sailing and the night time fun. Now a days a large percentage of crews get paid raising the cost and pushing out the non pro teams. I do not have a problem paying crews but there are regattas and campaigns that should have pros and there are one's that should not. When I campaigned a star I paid a crew and a coach. You need a top crew to compete as a team plus when you ask a guy to give you 100 days of sailing a year he cannot hold down a regular job and take that much time off. Would I pay guys to sail with me on a J70 at Keywest? No, I would ask guys I want to have a good time with and enjoy their company. We might not win but we would do well and have a good time. So if you ask me the high dollar programs killed the middle fleet guys which dropped the numbers to where the pro only teams did not have enough of a turn out to cover the cost of running the regatta. An idea I have talked with other owners, should paid crews have to pay a maintenance fee or regatta fee to help support the event? It is a tax but they are the ones benefiting most from the regatta. No regatta no pay check!
  2. Like an airplane the horizontal stabilizer pulls down and holds the nose up. When loading a plane keeping the weight aft reduces the amount the stabilizer has to hold up thereby reducing drag and increasing fuel efficiency.
  3. Sounds like to me the Pro's at the top end have been doing a good job of talking the .001% into keeping them employed on different projects. I believe Pro's moving into the smaller one design classes is hurting the numbers. Back in the late 90's and early 2000 very few if any one designs like the E22, M24, J24, J22 had paid pro's on board. Now to compete at the top almost everyone has at least one if not the max allowed by the class. Paying $2k a day for crew on an E22 or M24 is beyond most sailors budget. Cost enough to have new sails and a travel budget. Buying a boat is cheap. Good E22 $40k, budget to race it in 20 days/5 regattas for crew and travel ect $60K a year. So yes, high end racing is doing fine. Most everything else the numbers are way off.
  4. Southern eye wall right over Hamilton Island now with gust to125kts. Will last for a few hours which will cause a lot of wind damage a big storm surge. Bad recipe to have.
  5. More like the frequentors of the website would not know what to do with her. To use to keyboard spanking!
  6. Figured I would chime in since I have some experience with both. Sure the Opti is a box, and when I raced (I had US 38) so 38th US built opti (1975) it was pretty much the only training boat around. I started out in the Clearwater Pram which is the foundation for the IOD. As a kid growing up in Florida I traveled all over the state and my last few years I went to two worlds, Denmark 1975, and Turkey 1976. Also to two South American Championships Rio 1975 and Buenos Aires 1976. I met a ton of my friends which I still have today from back then, many from various countries that I see racing still. Additionally many of the kids went on to be Olympic medalist and AC sailors. One is a top cat and AC designer. Pretty good for sailing a box. Also the opt catches crap for the gaff rig. Isn't that what all the top boats have now with the huge top gaf batten? I taught Sabots when I was in San Diego one summer since I had some time on my hands. Boats might look similar but are totally different. Sabot was designed to be a tender that was towed behind a sailboat which could also be sailed around. Hence the leeboard and not a daggerboard where the water comes up the trunk when towing. It also has a lot more rocker and does not plane like an opti. It was also designed for the SOCAL light winds. First day with 15 kts of breeze which is no big deal for an Opti I found out had much the Sabot loves to dig in the bow and swamp. Forget about self rescue which most kids can do in the opti. How about traveling for the Sabot? Just SOCAL. Plenty of great sailors came from th Sabot class too, so not trying to bash it. Both boats are great trainers and do what they need to do. Are there better kids boats out there? Sure but not with the low cost and infrastructure that the Opti has. As for helicopter parents, show me any kids competitive sport and I will show you out of control helicopter parents. Manage your own kids and yourself and don't worry what the Jones are doing.
  7. Good idea to use older practice mast until you and especially your crew get use to the runners. From outboard to inboard Upper into the lower fork. Then intermediate. The small end split fork of the intermediate should be bent a little or the same angle to let the intermediate line up. The lower from spreader tip to stay master is smaller diameter than the lower diagonal. Also make sure the smaller staymaster is on the upper and the larger on the lower diagonal. Seen someone break a rig with them wrong. The lower diagonal has a much higher load due to the wide spreaders.
  8. The last World Cup I raced in, Perth 2011 they required I believe $2M AUSD in liability insurance. My US policy holder would only insure to $1.5M US. The organizers had an insurance company available to insure anyone who pneeded it. I think it was close to $220 US for the regatta. So you can see which way things are going. Plenty of lawyers out there to go after the deep pockets. We are all paying for it. If you want to race an organized event it is going to cost money to cover all these cost that were not around 20 years ago.
  9. Two floaters in San Fransisco bay. Probably jumpers. One in Tampa bay looked like a bum who probably passed out and fell into the water.
  10. There is a website that pretty much does everything you are proposing. I use it a ton for trip planning. You can build routes and save them. You have to sign up for an account to utilize it fully. Activecaptain.com
  11. There was a study done awhile back that asked athletes if they would take a drug that would win them a gold medal even if they knew it would kill them in a few years. About 80% said they would. I practiced/ raced stars in the 2009 South Americans and 2010 Worlds in Rio. Total of 5 weeks sailing. Sure there was a lot of trash and pollution. A star crew is in the water probably more than any other sailor. I do not remember anyone getting sick or having issues. I did bring a lot of anti biotics and stuff for the squirts. Only thing we used was neosporin for small cuts. Not saying it is the best situation. However, reality is they do not have the money to clean it up. I think they will be able to keep most of the large trash off the race courses on race day. Just not the bacterial runoff that they promised.
  12. I have been watching/listening to the racing. I think they are doing a great job with the video and balancing the commentating without dumbing down the terms or getting all excited and yelling in the mic. Good stories on the sailors as well as explaining the tactics and the nuances of racing a star. Even though the wind is light and the spray is not flying it is still interesting to watch. Surprised there have not been more comments from the peanut gallery! Even Clean is there and has been supportive of the racing. I thought he gave up on anything with a keel.
  13. I think by canting the keel it puts the boat on its chine which reduces the rocking back and forth on the waves. They also might have had some damage to the trunk for the J board and were trying to keep it out of the water.
  14. Great Ragamuffin video! Is that a Ted Nugent version of stranglehold or another band?