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  1. GD was the guy who invited me on board Lion when the Whitbread team were based in the South of England, he didn't know me other than I was a random Kiwi who walked down the jetty to take a look at the boat. He took me below deck, showed me everything on the boat and had beers at the pub afterwards with a bunch of the crew. I have nothing bad to say about him.
  2. You know something Stingray, while we sit on opposite sides of the fence I like you because you never give up.
  3. What will Oracle modify in the five days? Nothing of significance, the problem is cultural.
  4. I agree wholeheartedly. It just seemed that in complete contrast to the weeks before this that the mood had changed somewhat. I also didn't let it spoil all of the amazing times I had and the many hours spent with people on both sides of the table. We were all there supporting our teams, many of us would arrive early in the day to claim a spot on the rail at the end of the pier and stand there for hours on end before any racing began. We would see a lot of the same faces each day, got to know each other a little and cheered our respective teams on, all with an abundance of pride and friendly rivalry.
  5. Growing up in NZ taught me many very valuable lessons, none more so than the ones I learned from my parents and also from playing the game of Rugby. My father would have kicked may arse two ways to Sunday had I not been respectful to others and the game showed me discipline in winning and in defeat. Despite the fact that as opponents we were literally kicking the crap out of each other, sometimes engaging in all out brawls, the game always ended with us shaking hands with our adversaries and congratulating whoever had won. Often we would adjourn to the pub together to drink beer... I have been very fortunate in that my life involves being in competition almost each and every week and I have seen a lot of victories and a lot of defeats. Although I was not actively involved in any way SF was a tough one, no doubt because I became personally invested in it as I'm sure many other Kiwi's were as well but each and every ETNZ supporter that I saw was genuinely gracious when that final race was won by OR. A little something to keep in mind when you win is the fact that you are also one step closer to your next loss. Win with pride and lose with grace.
  6. We were there a few times over the course of the event and initially it was all good, met a lot of very cool people who were enjoying the event for what it was, lots of Kiwi's included. Even when OR were on the receiving end of a beating everyone was nice and friendly but that final day was just different. I'm not sure if the comeback attracted a different type of crowd who were just there to see blood but it sure got ugly where we were. It wasn't so much the folks at the waters edge, against the barriers where we stood for days on end but more the types that milled about in the center of the village, perhaps they were just hyped up and full of beer but it was anything but a crowd of gracious winners.
  7. Thanks. Very busy as always, I get home to CA about one day per month... I'm at the Pikes Peak hillclimb as we speak supporting three Acura's, a bit of a departure from my normal Indycar, IMSA, PWC gigs but a very good tonic all the same. I am bummed because there is no cell reception up the mountain so Saturday and Sunday I'll be blind all day and missing the AC action until I come down and see the replays. The kids did good at Le Mans, we need someone to carry the mantle once Scotty Dixon decides to hang up the helmet.
  8. I was there and saw it first hand as well. Wearing any kind of ETNZ gear was cause for a torrent of vitriol to come your way, very unpleasant to have to walk the gauntlet off that pier and I felt genuinely concerned for my wife having to wade through the masses who seemed intent on showing how much we were hated. I have worked in professional sport all of my life and never have I seen the kind of nastiness that I saw then, the kind that I thought was reserved for European soccer matches. To win this one would be my own personal payback.
  9. Team NZ

    Good to see you back ncs, and thanks again for SF.
  10. On-scene in San Francisco

    And a very approachable guy too. There was a story in the paper about his "turn around".
  11. On-scene in San Francisco

    And another thing. There is no perfect place to watch from. I have tried several and I loved the whole AC Park thing. My wife and I were front row at the end of the pier, have always had great company, close to the beer, VERY close to the boats as they pass by after the finish and the ensuing (Kiwi) celebrations. To me, the atmosphere is key to an enjoyable experience, we had it all right there. The bathrooms are close and numerous, big screens if you absolutely have to have them but everyone around you has everything you need on their cell phones/tablets. Being in SF for the AC is all about the experience and we chose to go back to where that whole experience was at its best. After the races we were able to sit at comfortable tables with people we had just met and watch replays as we sampled beer from the bar 40 feet away. We were able to gather a contingent of people from the world over and all convene to the WIYC for an evening of fun and merriment. Members of all of the teams turned up at some point, I spoke at length with several of them. We didn't have to move more than a few hundred feet to do anything. And we were in the middle of all of the action.
  12. On-scene in San Francisco

    And Koch is in SF country, saw him in a recent vid. But yes, his Witchita display is pictured - nice photo and context by B. I, as a long time AC follower but absolute neophyte sailing person have my senses heightened to things AC. What would previously have been interesting is now front and center.
  13. On-scene in San Francisco

    Because I have been "on scene in San Fransisco" twice now and am bummed that I have no more opportunities to do it again I was bummed that my current trip involves a wind tunnel test in Wichita, not the sailing center of, well, anywhere. Lo and behold I was confronted with this... I managed to get the races on NBC sports via the internet in the tunnel between runs and wished I could be back in SF amongst the throngs. Thanks for the coverage and the views.
  14. On-scene in San Francisco

    Having been on the receiving end of the same hospitality I wholeheartedly agree on the thanks.
  15. On-scene in San Francisco

    Ya just had to bring that sheep back into it didn't you...