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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Yes, agree with that. I just met Comrade Stingray in Cow Hollow. He and I have had issues but, meeting F2F calls for cordiality and courtesy. He is the first I have seen fully decked-out in Oracle gear! [although he claims there are others if I look hard enough] It is VERY hard to know where to watch the races. It is a long way from the Marina Green to the AC Park (Pier 27) end. The AC Store at PIer 27 is absolute shit. No team stuff there. Just (I assume) ACEA stuff made to look like team gear. Poorly designed, printed on shit fabric and offered at outrageous prices. The best deal in there is the Program (at $15). It is a long walk from Pier 27 (the AC "park) to the TNZ/LR bases and even further to OR. It is obvious organisers just gave up on any "village" idea. This was one thing Ernesto did quite well. Having seen the "AC park" today (and noted the prices down there) tomorrow I might opt for the big screen at Marina Green. Stinger (who is clean-cut young guy) thinks he might take his binoculars and go up Telegraph Hill for the big-view. But he has a mobile device to get Virtual Eye etc. From my VLC experience (2007) I decided you have to be near a screen. Not for the commentary. But for the telemetry. Will look for a breakfast place and make a decision before Race 1. There is very little wind in SF at present and SR wonders if they will even get on their foils for Race 1. Few comments about SF. Today I walked miles and very much like the obvious height restraints in housing areas. Looks like the famous SF BOS said 4-storeys max. Makes for a kind of Parisian (or European) look. The Cow Hollow, Marina Districts and environs look pretty up-market. Not many street dwellers and many affluent looking citizens gulpng down tacos and starring at their cellphones. On the drive in from the airport the van driver continuously made phone calls. Have these people ever heard of distracted driving? If there is a lay-day (or racing is cancelled for no wind) I will be hitting any 2nd hand bookstores around here. And yes, if I see John Navas, I will give him special Maori greetings and a secret look at a taniwha. awesome post! have a great spectacle!!! think i'll just leave and watch the race again debrief at swashys upon return please! -d
  2. just watched the races again, Congrats on your great races!! Amazing for your time on water, and classy to accept the lil hicup at the end..
  3. I couldn't agree more. I know that I keep banging on about it, but there really is a thing about team safety culture. AR just don't have it. That was a relatively high risk maneuver for an experienced team, and probably suicidally high for an inexperienced team. What did they gain - 3s on the start line and 6s at the first mark? CD backed off, and gets hammered for it by the media. I even read on the TVNZ website some commentator suggesting that CDs job could be on the line if he didn't do a better job starting - what a complete joke. Listening to him interviewed post race he actually says that their game plan was to stay out of NO's way in the prestart because they knew they had plenty of speed on them. CD made a smart decision and was rewarded with a safe start, and a 2 minute win. GD mentioned a lot of carbon fibre around...risk assessment is a survival trait
  4. i am confused, does that mean they have met the Safety Rec's for rudder area? and when did they measure in last few days?
  5. Very true. Not condemning that at all. But I think a strict nationality rule would be more in the spirit of the DoG, and perhaps more interesting for people to follow. But this only my personal point of view. ... This Cup is donated upon the conditions that it shall be preserved as a perpetual Challenge Cup for friendly competition between foreign countries. ... seems that worked out for the chall's in the end, no hard feelings by anyone at this point...priceless
  6. Both Challs seem happy to have Big Blue in the show.... your comment is thread drift pays the bills to have races next week, that's professional, and big blue races, that's personal, win win
  7. self tacking jib track?
  8. I don't know. One of the recent pieces interviewing IP made it apparent that getting AR on the racetrack is part of his grieving process for Simpson. That's touching and understandable. Whether it makes for good judgement is another question. As I've posted before, I'm conflicted about AR racing. Head says no, heart says yes. been there, his friendship with his mate deserves him the chance to take another spin, he will know if the boat and he are fine... 'specially with driving a machine like that, its not a solo sport.. good on him!
  9. Why are you claiming just 36 & 37 are changes to the class rule, but the other 35 (including the minimum draft and elevator area requirements) are not class rule changes? All changes that stipulate minimum OR maximum length/area, or require/restrict specific shapes, represent changes to the rule. Just because some teams satisfy minimums and maximums before and after the changes does not make those changes non-class rule changes, while changes in shapes are class rule changes. If ETNZ and LR are supporting the minimum draft and elevator area requirements, they are supporting class rule changes (and my guess is other class rule changes are included in the 35). wind limit changes were a clear compromise to ETNZ, given so at the time, they didn't appear "reckless", or less *"SAFE*". All the Challs (able to sail that is), should have dug their heels in as soon as a RD starts "cherry picking" loose "recommendation" from the teams, and forcing what "he" thinks down their throats....
  10. I do understand and take seriously the larger argument. But the reason for arguing that larger argument clearly has at its root the ETNZ belief that "it gives another team some advantage over the others." And without GD explaining that, well it's difficult to just automatically accept as Gospel. Both RC and PC, to their credit, have addressed it in explicit detail and aren't even the ones creating the argument. The one making the claim is the one who logically should be addressing it, even before everyone else. If he has a real problem then I wish he could explain it. http://www.kiwiyachting.co.nz/dean-barkers-blog/8-days-lvc
  11. maybe a bit more volume been added to those bows in the background? seems like a sensible safety measure....
  12. horse before cart, again, having IM get the sequence of events wrong last time, submitting the 72 before mediation, MS is going to get the ruling before racing, as some how the ruling got scheduled *one day * after the first race... procedure.. fairness...
  13. RC ya gotta rebuild ....the...rudders..you...been ...using since march????? that the other teams, .....all of them....don't have??? WTF, Over?
  14. There you are how's that law suit coming along? You know the one you claimed to have knowledge of but no proof ? Come on man up admit you were full of shit or show your source . http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10892365 hearsay of course