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  1. Looking at the start of the 2nd leg of Leg 0 I remembered the VOR on Virtual Regatta a bunch of us participated in during the last edition of the VOR. I then went on the Virtual Regatta website and saw they are not doing a VOR Leg 0 this time around. Anyone know why? I remember starting in the middle of Leg 0 last time so I expected one for this edition. WetHog
  2. Hi, If you want to try another virtual experience for free (no pay to play), that allows you to have a normal life (no need to be 24/7 computer-addicted), and with fun (what we all are looking for!), here it is ... The First leg of the VOR will start Sunday October the 22nd at 20h00 UTC+2 on regattagame.net ! http://www.regattagame.net regattagame is a free online regatta game on 1° wind cells with iteration every 10 minutes and wind shift every 12 hours. You can try the game without registering : select the "demo" boat. Welcome on board and see you on Sunday October the 22nd !
  3. Old Whitbread/Volvo Ocean Race yachts

    "Where are they now?" We have launched a very exciting research project called "Where are they now?", the project aims to find all the old yachts that has participated in Whitbread Round the World or Volvo Ocean Race since the first edition in 1973. The research will result in an exhibition displayed in Gothenburg during the finish of Volvo Ocean Race. The exhibition will be open for the public free of charge and hopefully it will contribute to keeping the legacy of the great race alive. Since the first race 41 years ago 152 yachts has started the race, far from all of them reached the finish-line. They all have a very different life as retired Whitbread/VOR yachts, some has sunk, some are forgotten, some has been involved in drug smuggling and some are in absolute mint condition. TheDailySail.com launched a thread 4 years ago with the same aim, loads of leads came from the readers, but many yachts are still out there with no leads. We are now calling for help from all anarchist to help us locate all of them! Anyone that finds us a yacht and send us a high resolution picture will be mentioned in our exhibition with a special “thank you!” And one of you will be the lucky winner of a Musto Volvo Ocean Race jacket. Gothenburg Stopover
  4. Craig Monk ex TNZ member is reported to be starting a challenge for VOR race, how many ETNZ will join ??? http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11893218
  5. volvo goes both ways

    The best-kept secret in sailing (outside of ETNZ's wing control) comes at the end of a long press conference from Volvo HQ in Gothenburg, SWE, and in our opinion, it's a mixed bag. Here's a synopsis of Mark Turner's speech, in order of importance (to us): 1) The 2020 Volvo Ocean Race will be contested in what the new design chief calls a 'Turbo IMOCA'; 60 foot foiling monohulls with adjustable-flap foils while the in-port racing will happen in foiling cats. The 60 footer will be 'convertible' to an IMOCA, and the VOR in-house design team led by Guillaume Verdier. The cats are being opened up to a design tender process starting today at between 32 and 50 feet. Turner says the new lease program and pooled services program allows a similar budget for future races to that of today. 2) The 2020 Race has a wishlist of 8 teams, and all boats will be owned by VOR and leased to teams in an attempt to reduce the initial barriers to a new team/sponsor. 3) Sustainability looks to be a real goal this time rather than just more lip service to 'green' sponsors. VOR spent the last ten years bowing primarily to the god of social media - their new pet deity is now a clean ocean, and they've got funding and support from 11th Hour, Akzo, and the United Nations, and their goal is a fleet of Zero Emission races. 2017/18 sustainable goals will be met with help of rules requiring team use of official RIBs, hydrogenerator minimums, fuel maximums, etc. 4) It's obvious the VOR has struggled pulling in team sponsors - that's why you saw the Hong Kong team's offer accepted yesterday, why there are still 3 empty boats, and why VOR is still trying to find someone to run a 'clean the oceans' entry for an all-women/all-youth/50/50 mixed team for the coming edition they say is already half funded. 5) Volvo and the VOR have formed a major partnership with World Sailing, principally to help create a pipeline for young sailors to become offshore pros and VOR crews. This includes new VOR Academies (presumably in partnership with existing organizations) and keeps Turner and his hefty experience involved in the possibility of the offshore racing Olympic event that World Sailing has been chasing from the IOC. 6) Course may be radically different, especially for the 50th anniversary 2023 event. More racing between races or a straight up 2-year race cycle, with race activity every year. Maybe a crewed non-stop race around Antarctica.
  6. Clean has hinted that people in the VOR media operation in Alicante read the SA forums. I don't know if any of them will read this, but I had some comments I wanted to share about them/for them. Kind of an open letter, I guess. I don't expect anyone to actually read it or give it any weight if they do. But I felt like saying it. There are two things I wish the VOR media operation would give me for Christmas: More access to raw videos They've said publicly (I think it was in a translated interview with Knut that I saw a week or two ago, but I don't want go digging for it) that this time around they are specifically focusing their media effort on reaching out to a larger audience, people beyond the obsessive types who (say) post messages in these forums. And you can see that in the videos they produce, with their emphasis on cutting together the on-board footage into brief human interest stories. They want to appeal to a general-interest audience, not just to sailing obsessives. Fine. But as someone who is really into the race, and who does have an ocean racing background, it can be frustrating trying to follow it with only that tiny peephole into what's actually happening. I wish they would put just a little more effort into serving the more knowledgable part of their audience, even if it's just by releasing each boat's daily video package more or less immediately. They could still cut it into little stories that presumably interest their general-interest target audience. But in the meantime they could make the raw videos available somewhere so obsessives could watch it. They don't have to highlight it; just a small, out of the way mention somewhere so we can find it. I'm guessing each individual team (which I guess means each team's principal sponsor) is in charge of whether or not they release the OBRs' raw videos. That's why we basically get what I'm asking for in the case of Dongfeng, and then less-so from MAPFRE and SCA, and still less-so from Alvimedica and Brunel, and finally the barest dribs and drabs from Abu Dhabi. Ugh. It's so frustrating. All this awesome technology and expense and effort on the part of the OBRs to put these daily videos together, and then, at the final step when all that would be needed is someone issuing a single command in Alicante -- wham. It runs into a virtual reef. Sigh. More transparency / access to them There's a weird mismatch in how the central VOR media operation presents themselves to fans. On the one hand they're clearly a small team with limited resources and limited expertise. There's a distinct element of amateurishness in what they produce. I say that not to make anyone feel bad; it's just a fact. We all know what professional sports broadcasting looks like. The media coming out of Alicante isn't that. And you know what? That's fine. It doesn't have to be that. There's no way it could be that. It's weird, then, how standoffish they sometimes seem. The way they interact with their fans online feels like some huge, impersonal media conglomerate that can't possibly interact in a meaningful way because they have millions of viewers. Except they don't have millions of viewers. What would it cost them to engage with fans a little more openly? A case in point is the live video of SCA's arrival in Abu Dhabi (the "Live Arrivals Abu Dhabi 4" video). Apparently if you watched that live it worked fine (it probably wasn't very exciting, since it was happening at night, but you would have been able to see whatever it was they chose to include in the video). But then, after the usual delay after the livestream ended, when they uploaded the version for non-live viewing, the video had a serious problem, in that it was essentially blank. The audio was fine, so you could hear Genny doing interviews and everything. But there was nothing to look at. You can still see listen to the video here: It was posted on December 14. Six different people (of the 7 who commented on it) mentioned the problem. I assumed the VOR people would fix it and re-upload, or barring that at least make some kind of statement explaining that they weren't going to. But... nothing. After two days I dug up an email address and sent the following: A couple of days later I received this reply: And that's the last I heard. A while after that they made the video unlisted, such that you can still see it if you know the address, but it doesn't show up in their normal YouTube feed. I'm not expecting personalized service. But given that I really wanted to see that video, it's frustrating not to be able to. And just in general, it's frustrating that the people who control this media I'd like to be a fan of are operating in this oddly stealthy, non-communicative way. How hard would it have been to make a tweet? "Apologies for the problems with the SCA arrival video. We're working on a solution." "As it turns out we'll be unable to post the video of SCA's arrival in Abu Dhabi. Sorry about that." It's not like that information would have let me do anything. But it would have gone a long way toward maintaining my goodwill as a fan, my sense of enthusiasm about following the race, my feeling of being part of this. As it was, though, I ended up just feeling ignored. Pro tip: Making your fans feel like you're ignoring/neglecting/unconcerned about them is a good way to end up with fewer fans. I don't need them to interact with me personally. But it's an unforced media error, an own goal, for them to treat their fans that way as a group. The fantastic thing about this amazing technology stack, from the people and cameras on the boats to the satellites to the global information network with services like YouTube and Twitter, is that it gives us an illusion of connection. Two people on opposite sides of that network can be, at least for information purposes, in the same place. It's as if the sailors on the boats and the media people in Alicante and the fans around the world can all gather together and share this amazing event with each other in real time. A little openness from the media people would go a long way in nurturing that sense of connection. Supposedly they're monitoring these forums regularly -- but they never post. They have a YouTube channel and a Twitter feed -- but they don't respond to their YouTube comments, and rarely engage in any meaningful way on Twitter. Maybe it's a reflection of Knut's management style. He seems like a Type A, controlling kind of guy. Maybe he keeps everyone on a tight leash? No one can respond in real-time to an issue like the borked SCA arrival video, because they would need Knut's approval in order to do or say anything, and he's too busy with more important things to give it his time. I just want access to the information. Set it free! :-)
  7. "Most successful ever" http://www.volvooceanrace.com/en/news/9157_Record-numbers.html Interesting that crashing TVW didn't give as much media value as the other teams gained by staying afloat. Oh, and they forgot to mention SA as a quality news source