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She sets off- Abby Sunderland

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You have to be kidding me ! That boat didn't have a wooden most OR boom - how could they print such a clearly incorrect detail ?

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Ghost written with no knowledge of the subject. Of course, subject had no knowledge either.

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Here is a link to the Outside write-up and comment page. Outside Mag.

 

I hate this Fing thread but will say I sent the editor a note about it the second it arrived on my front porch. POS write up and I did mention there were no wood booms or masts on her boat. Also suggested Outside do the sailing world a favor and interview a really truly over the top sailor like the fellow that did the Mini solo trip and jury rigged it to finish the trip. Some of you guys write them feedback and they will listen. By the way I was contacted by one of their editors about the Tin Can dude back in the day I explained how the majority of the sailing folks considered the guy a whack job and that he will probably end the trip before leaving the CA coast. Suggested he interview the GP26 owner who had just splashed the 1st GP26 in SF given the boat was a work of art and was designed and built by the owner. He liked the idea and took down his info.

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Here is a link to the Outside write-up and comment page. Outside Mag.

 

I hate this Fing thread but will say I sent the editor a note about it the second it arrived on my front porch. POS write up and I did mention there were no wood booms or masts on her boat. Also suggested Outside do the sailing world a favor and interview a really truly over the top sailor like the fellow that did the Mini solo trip and jury rigged it to finish the trip. Some of you guys write them feedback and they will listen. By the way I was contacted by one of their editors about the Tin Can dude back in the day I explained how the majority of the sailing folks considered the guy a whack job and that he will probably end the trip before leaving the CA coast. Suggested he interview the GP26 owner who had just splashed the 1st GP26 in SF given the boat was a work of art and was designed and built by the owner. He liked the idea and took down his info.

 

Or how about Ronnie and Warriors Wish? That would make an amazing story!

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The article is a work of creative writing.

I suspect you are seeing an excerpt of the book

that is going to be published in the not too distant future.

 

Keep in mind, just stick with your version of the story long enough

and it becomes the story after a while.

 

Most of the world doesn't care. I expect the book will sell because the ghost

author did the Sarah Palin book...

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They have now changed the article "The carbon-fiber mast was dangling in the water; the boom, also carbon fiber, was snapped in half."

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It is so amazing how this family can keep getting coverage. No matter how many times they are proven incompetent, usually by their own statements, another good magazine is willing to buy into them. Talk about perpetuating a lie.

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It is so amazing how this family can keep getting coverage. No matter how many times they are proven incompetent, usually by their own statements, another good magazine is willing to buy into them. Talk about perpetuating a lie.

 

 

 

I know, when I saw Abby in that article my opinion of Outside plummeted.

 

 

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One would have to dig very deep to uncover a local news station in small-town Syracuse, New York's little website to find that. Rather amusing the lengths Australians will go to "keep a watch on the competition". Understandable of course when Jessica's success is deemed the greatest thing to have ever happened in the Land Down Under. Hopefully your protest and request for clarification will be honored post haste and all will be well Down Under once again.

 

Hi Graham.

Listen mate whilst your here, my aunty died and I got left a shitload of money that I want to get out of the Country.

I see the exchange rate today is $1AUS to 50 000 000 000 Nigerian sea shells. If you help me you can have half of it. Just give pm me your bank account details.

Cheers!

 

BWAHA! +10 "my father was a nigerian prince once and...."

 

 

 

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They have now changed the article "The carbon-fiber mast was dangling in the water; the boom, also carbon fiber, was snapped in half."

 

You logged on the 1st of August and this is your first post?

Holy dormant sock puppet Batman!

 

Could you, belatedly, show us your girlfriend's tits and fuck off.

 

That is all. Thank you.

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Second paragraph says it all; I didn't read any further.

 

"But my 40-foot racing yacht, Wild Eyes, was holding up against the swells, and I would stay below, tied into bed, reading books, listening to music. One of the best parts of the day was checking my e-mail."

 

I guess that in a sour economy people will grasp at any BS that might grab some eyeballs for their advertisers...

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The article is a work of creative writing.

I suspect you are seeing an excerpt of the book

that is going to be published in the not too distant future.

 

Keep in mind, just stick with your version of the story long enough

and it becomes the story after a while.

 

Most of the world doesn't care. I expect the book will sell because the ghost

author did the Sarah Palin book...

 

Actually edging into the near distant future

 

Unsinkable: A Young Woman's Courageous Battle on the High Seas

 

The stirring narrative of Unsinkable tells sixteen-year-old Abby Sunderland's remarkable true story of attempting to become the youngest person ever to sail solo around the world.

 

More people have flown into outer space than have sailed solo around the globe. It is a challenge so immense that many have died trying, and all have been pushed beyond every physical, emotional, psychological, and spiritual limit. In Unsinkable, readers follow Abby Sunderland into those depths. This biography delivers a gripping and evocative firsthand account that starts prior to her departure, travels through her daring (and sometimes near-death) encounters on the open sea, to her dramatic rescue in the remotest corner of the Indian Ocean, and the media explosion that happened upon her safe return to dry land.

 

Along the way, readers discover what it means to boldly face any challenge, to strive after something great, and to plumb the depths of faith, fear, and desperation only to emerge changed, renewed, and emboldened. In this day and age, when the most productive thing a teenager may do is play videogames, Abby's ambition and tenacity is a real-life parable of what can happen when we choose to exceed our own limits, embrace faith, and strive after what all the naysayers say is impossible.

 

Publisher: Thomas Nelson (April 12 2011)

That's still 5 months out. They are spending more time on the book than they did on the voyage/

 

Maybe that's the time they think it will take to find a cover picture where she doesn't look like a SoCal mallgirl posing on her first time on a boat

 

http://img.amazon.ca/images/I/51izzzstHzL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

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So the title of the book is "Unsinkable", eh?

 

"Unsinkable".....

 

Haha. Hahhahahahahha.... :lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

Better titles:

 

Unsailorlike.

Unseaworthy.

Unplanned.

Undersailed.

Underwater.

Unlikely.

Unbelievable.

 

I think the last one would be best, as it describes the whole fiasco in more ways than one...

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wrong boat + wrong season + wrong sailor + bad parenting = this mess

 

should'a gotten an upper 30"Hans Christian, sailed when it was nice, told daddy to take a long walk off a short pier (and with his demonstrated navigational skills, wouldn't be that hard) and she probably would've had a good voyage.

 

so, by blathering back and forth..... are we collectively trying to get to 300 posts? 'cause, otherwise, this is as pointless as the attempt.

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so, by blathering back and forth..... are we collectively trying to get to 300 posts? 'cause, otherwise, this is as pointless as the attempt.

 

Had 300 by the time she reached Cabo San Lucas

 

 

http://www.thomasnelson.com/consumer/product_detail.asp?sku=1400203082&title=&author=Abby_Sunderland

 

See above - so how many people have flown into space and how many have done solo RTW?

This is going to be truly a work of fiction...

 

Sigh...

 

Yeah that's actually right

 

http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/most-women-in-space-100405.html

5 Apr 2010 ... In all, 54 women have flown in space out of the 517 people who have reached orbit

 

And This guy keeps a list and Alessandro Di Benedetto made it in position 176.

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http://www.space.com...ace-100405.html

5 Apr 2010 ... In all, 54 women have flown in space out of the 517 people who have reached orbit

 

And This guy keeps a list and Alessandro Di Benedetto made it in position 176.

 

Interesting list - and not too sure how you get onto it. Does it include just the non stop solo attempts?

For example, I didn't see Zac Sunderland on there. He did RTW with lots of stops and assistance.

 

I think the RTW list is missing a heap of names, not that it matters a lot in the grand scheme of things.

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http://www.space.com...ace-100405.html

5 Apr 2010 ... In all, 54 women have flown in space out of the 517 people who have reached orbit

 

And This guy keeps a list and Alessandro Di Benedetto made it in position 176.

 

Interesting list - and not too sure how you get onto it. Does it include just the non stop solo attempts?

For example, I didn't see Zac Sunderland on there. He did RTW with lots of stops and assistance.

 

I think the RTW list is missing a heap of names, not that it matters a lot in the grand scheme of things.

Read the description above the list Jerry, specifically, no Suez or Panama Canals . Zac doesn't qualify.

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Read the description above the list Jerry, specifically, no Suez or Panama Canals . Zac doesn't qualify.

 

Good point, thanks - I suspect that the Abby book

got delayed because the ghost author was pulled into the higher

priority task of ghosting Saran Palin's book #2 which comes out next week.

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Read the description above the list Jerry, specifically, no Suez or Panama Canals . Zac doesn't qualify.

 

Good point, thanks - I suspect that the Abby book

got delayed because the ghost author was pulled into the higher

priority task of ghosting Saran Palin's book #2 which comes out next week.

or the Ghost author realised that there isn't enough to work with.

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Marianne Sunderland wrote on her Facebook Wall about the upcoming book:

 

"This book is shaping up to be absolutely fabulous. Lynn Vincent totally 'gets it' and is drawing wells of deep water out of Abby. God will get the glory and the truth will be told! "

Unsinkable: A Young Woman's Courageous Battle on the High Seas by Lynn Vincent, Abby Sunderland www.allbookstores.com

 

 

If you say it enough you'll start to believe it. "Drawing wells of Deep water" gawk

 

Hope god forgives you for risking your daughters life for Fame Greed and Avarice

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........."Drawing wells of Deep water" :lol:

 

.....more likely---''spewing buckets of horse-shit''

 

nothing wrong with that,I guess!! :blink:

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Hello Everyone! Hope all is well and enjoying Abby's travels and escapades.. biggrin.gif

 

 

I wanted to share a few things... For one, I coach my daughter in soccer and encountered Larry on the soccer field... My game had just ended and I turned around to see Larry standing right in front of me... unsure.gif He looked like he had seen a ghost! I said, "hi (beat, beat) lawrence" , he simply grinned and said "good day mate". He then walked away and kept looking back at me, with an odd stare... mad.gif I later realized that one of his daughter's was in the same division as mine... We were scheduled to play the last game of the season. I was soo looking forward to it, as my team was winning by more than 5 goals in every game we played.. I could just imagine, the joy of seeing Larry and Mary on the other side of the field. Well, I guess it was "God's Will" because the game got rained out... sad.gif

 

FYI, I saw Larry and the Family there a couple times after that, our kids played on the same field. Abby looked like she had gained a few pounds, to say the least. I'm still confused on how she gained all that weight out at sea...

 

Anyway, truly amazing all the followers who get "drawn in by the wells of deep water". I occasionally get messages from "Sunderland" trolls from time to time.. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=291457&id=757747937

 

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Guys we are closing a few threads that are of a hellish length (5000+ posts)

 

Don't be shy to start a new thread and link back to this one.

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