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Friday 12 February Daily

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Finally saw VMG numbers for downwind:

Both BMW and Alinghi around 17 knots. BMW may be throttling back though.

Boat speed was right around 22 knots at the time.

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signs of panic around USA's mast step ?

 

edit: just sorting the sails to make a comfortable place to lay down and enjoy the ride !

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Anybody think that all of a sudden EB will want to sail in 20 knots in hopes that the wing breaks?

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no sex for Ernesto tonight

 

 

No sex?? He's been getting his ass banged for the last 2 hours... I doubt he wants more later...

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Did I just hear unobtanium mentioned in the construction of dogzilla?

 

I heard that too.

 

bmw less than 5min from the finish

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Finally saw VMG numbers for downwind:

Both BMW and Alinghi around 17 knots. BMW may be throttling back though.

Boat speed was right around 22 knots at the time.

 

I think USA is sailing less than optimum angles to avoid another gybe.

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Looks like about 7min margin to me.

 

 

+ whatever takes Alinghi to penalize..

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Very beautiful. But without the match racing aspect, it gets a bit dull. That, combined with the single turn has dumbed down AC to NASCAR level. Not much from an athletic perspective either with power assist on everything and minimal manuevering.

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Did I just hear unobtanium mentioned in the construction of dogzilla?

 

A few times on my feed :-)

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How did you like that comment from AG?

 

"The sail is a fail

and the wing is king"

 

Classic

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scot just informed us that we will be commentating from shore tomorrow. And you know what? I love it. This is a blast. We'll do an audio only feed unless we can get really fast upload speeds.

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+ whatever takes Alinghi to penalize..
Oh shit, Alinghi has to gybe just to get to the finish too, I'd been presuming they'd make it.

May be 10+ after all.

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amazing race, amazing boat, HUGE lead

 

to ALINGHI fans who may find some of the more gloating comments unseemly, so sorry, but we have been sorely tested by many

 

allow us our moment to gloat

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Anybody think that all of a sudden EB will want to sail in 20 knots in hopes that the wing breaks?

 

I think it might be his only hope. If not the wing breaking, maybe something else. Another day like today and it's over.

 

I'd still like to hear what BOR was doing during that stretch 15 or so mins after the start when A5 closed back up.

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don't forget our sponsors please, click on 'em and be sure to tune in to the OTWA feed at 730 local (CET) for another great live talk show!

 

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Good on EB doing his turn... wasn't sure he was going to.

 

He did the right thing on the water at least.

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Good on EB doing his turn... wasn't sure he was going to.

 

He did the right thing on the water at least.

 

To be honest, I don't think A5 ever finished legally.

 

They didn't complete their penalty on course side. They were straddling the line.

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Alinghi just completed their penalty and crossed the line around 17.20 CET...

 

no they didn't, they're still sailing

 

Finished, delta 15mns 28 secs...

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Good on EB doing his turn... wasn't sure he was going to.

 

He did the right thing on the water at least.

 

To be honest, I don't think A5 ever finished legally.

 

They didn't complete their penalty on course side. They were straddling the line.

 

 

You were right... EB even screws that up.

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Yup...RC had to call them back.

 

Insult to injury.

 

what you mean?

When they did their penalty turn, they turned too fast and so their 270 deg was completed on the wrong side of the line so they had to go back to cross A THIRD TIME

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This was certainly the most exciting 2.5 hour sail race I have ever watched!

 

 

 

It certainly had some moments, at the start, when BMW hunted down A5, the sets at the top for both boats, watching the first several hundred yards downwind. But really, like too many AC cups, after the first cross it was mostly boring for action. I mean one tack upwind and then one tack on the layline? BORING! No doubt the speed is incredible, but this was the least amount of boat to boat action of any AC Cup I can remember.

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Yup...RC had to call them back.

 

Insult to injury.

 

what you mean?

When they did their penalty turn, they turned too fast and so their 270 deg was completed on the wrong side of the line so they had to go back to cross A THIRD TIME

 

 

now that is freaking karma

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I had to turn the race off at 11 to go take an exam; other than BMWO obviously winning, can someone please fill me in on how the last 15 or so minutes played out?

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were the Alingi crew doing the wild thing to pop the hull downwind?

 

 

no, but they carried water ballast for the best part of the DOWNwind leg for the opposite effect!

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Congrats to BOR big win in race one.

 

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I had to turn the race off at 11 to go take an exam; other than BMWO obviously winning, can someone please fill me in on how the last 15 or so minutes played out?

 

Sure, the last 15 minutes began 28 seconds after USA finished. Several minutes later, A5 gybed onto port just short of the line. They then began their penalty turn, crossed the line, finished a turn, and headed for home. A few minutes later, they came back and finished properly. They might have finished under 9 minutes behind if not for the penalty, or 10 behind if they finished properly on the first try. Final delta: 15:28.

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at least the match racing umpires can stay on the commitee boat in luxury rather than follow the boats

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were the Alingi crew doing the wild thing to pop the hull downwind?

 

 

no, but they carried water ballast for the best part of the DOWNwind leg for the opposite effect!

 

didnt they have any cat sailors on board?

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Well, that was certainly one interesting race day. Since I couldn't skip school just to watch the races I found myself on the cusp of a Physics examination just as things were beginning to heat up around 7:45. As luck would have it however my Physics professor is a racer himself and upon hearing that the cup races were supposed to start he proposed a fantastic idea. Our classroom has an LCD projector in it and before you knew it the AC33 feed was up on the front board as we took a physics test. All through the test it was up there and it was one hell of a trip.

 

picture:

 

mFZTZ.jpg

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rain check - guys are JUST getting off boats and they are wasted - we will run an exciting live show tomorrow night!

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Thanks, everyone, for the reports today. I'm on the Research Vessel Thomas G. Thompson at 57S, 96W and was trying to follow the action today through our really-really-slow internet pipe (via satellite). The SA forum updates really helped during the frequent outages of the live streaming feed. One word to sum up today - WOW.

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Just want to say thanks to those that gave a running commentary during the race. I was stuck on a job with only my blackberry to follow the race and you guys did a great job keeping me informed. I do appreciate it.

 

Now I just got home, and on a proper computer, I am going to watch the start on ESPN 360.

 

WetHog :ph34r:

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were the Alingi crew doing the wild thing to pop the hull downwind?

 

 

no, but they carried water ballast for the best part of the DOWNwind leg for the opposite effect!

 

didnt they have any cat sailors on board?

I think the water was a experiment when things got really desperate

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From Awingey's website:

"Alinghi 5, with team president Ernesto Bertarelli at the helm, circled around the pin end and onto the race course for an early 1m27s lead, or approximately 660m. The catamaran held pace with the trimaran early, but eventually was overtaken."

 

Apparently 2' lower and 2kn slower = "held pace with the trimaran" :P

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I just watched the start again and wonder if there was an opportunity for A5 to cancel out their penalty. As they started, BMW was stuck in irons ahead of them. Do the rules/match racing experts think there was a way that A5 could have bullied a penalty out of BMW a she fought to get going?

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I just watched the start again and wonder if there was an opportunity for A5 to cancel out their penalty. As they started, BMW was stuck in irons ahead of them. Do the rules/match racing experts think there was a way that A5 could have bullied a penalty out of BMW a she fought to get going?

 

Wondered the same thing, but Alinghi was on port (not sure if BMW was port or starboard) but assuming they were on port also, Alinghi, as leeward boat had right of way, but once establishing an overlap to leeward from astern were obligated to not sail above their proper course, so there was not much Alinghi could to do screw with BMW at that point. IF BMW was on Starboard, Alinghi were required to keep clear.

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Some photos since there's been no racing...

 

nice cat on the 2nd pic from bottom to top, left collumn.

do you happen to know what boat is that?

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LISTEN UP, I HAVE A GREAT IDEA!

 

Wouldn't it be great if a team of journalists from the Number 1 sailing website in the world was sent to give us LIVE information from the event! They could include some knowledgeable commentators, videographer, still photographer and a tech support specialist.

 

This would give us eyes and ears on the water. Just like being there!

 

Oh wait... that's already happened, AND THE TEAM ISN'T ON THE WATER and ISN'T EVEN POSTING UPDATES.

 

I'm a long-time fan of OTWA and am not impressed. If you are there, why are you not on the fucking water and not providing any information? If your boat got jacked, you can't find a fucking ride on someone else's boat!?!?

 

Am I missing something or are they just mailing it in today? WTF OTWA, have you just given up and are now on vacation?

It's awesome that you have so many great ideas for us, like:

-Showing footage of the boats racing, before there is even an actual race..-my personal favorite

-Suggesting we aren't posting any updates ( while we are broadcasting live from before the start of the race , uploading pics and posting about the days events as they happen...much like we did all morning before todays race from BMW Oracle HQ.....) Im not sure if you completely understand the concept of time zones, but Ill leave that one alone.

- That we should just "find" another boat..., so wait...lemme get this right....theres other boats here? My Bad....Dude we totally blew that one, were gonna have to look into that.

 

I have taken the liberty to forward your info to the Mensa Society to contact you immediately for enrollment. Im sure they will fast track you, and expedite shipping of your customized Propeller Beanie 092-037_large.jpg

 

keep em coming skippy!

 

btw sunday is the next scheduled race day.....

 

So I'll see you here tomorrow.

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Some photos since there's been no racing...

 

nice cat on the 2nd pic from bottom to top, left collumn.

do you happen to know what boat is that?

 

Looks like a Sig 45

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I just watched the start again and wonder if there was an opportunity for A5 to cancel out their penalty. As they started, BMW was stuck in irons ahead of them. Do the rules/match racing experts think there was a way that A5 could have bullied a penalty out of BMW a she fought to get going?

 

 

vmg, interesting, I was thinking the same thing, strike now while you have the chance, especially just after you just got f*cked at the start., return the favor. But then the smart move is have trust in the design and take advantage of the start you just reversed on BMWO and make them pay.....oooops.

 

It was a great show!

 

Winever.

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Not having followed all of the court challanges and pre cup bullshit, why would EB think Larry/BO would bring a mono or a sloop to the races? I know that it was more than a year in develop/design/build, but they had to have had some time to decide not to up the ante design/technology wise.

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Some photos since there's been no racing...

 

nice cat on the 2nd pic from bottom to top, left collumn.

do you happen to know what boat is that?

 

Looks like a Sig 45

 

my first thought was exactly the same.

but then it looked kinda "smallish" to be a 45.

maybe because of the angle of the pic.

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