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Sammy

For Sale - FT10

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Flying Tiger 10 - USA 006 - For sale. Located in Chicago (stored indoors)

 

Equipment:

TackTick Wind, Speed, Depth and Compass (New Compass Unit).

Sails - NP OEM M,J,S plus #4

Tohatsu 9.8 4-Stroke

WestCoast AB Aluminum Trailer

Full set of cushions

Hall Quick Vang

Awlgripped Mast and Boom

Sani-Potty

Marine Radio

 

$ 58,500.00 (Note: New FT10 in China, Transported to US, Commissioned, and equiped as above (w/o sails) costs approx $94,000)

 

Optional:

EPIRB

 

Contact: Sam Kashy smkashy@yahoo.com or 312 375 1696

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What are you talking about, Ed?

 

Had previous posts not been deleted, you would have known that I never commented on this topic.

 

You are mistaking me for Christian, with whom you had words in this regard.

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flick him scooter!

 

congrats on the "not a bayliner"

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george you are a funny guy. you can't believe how many e-mails i've gotten from tiger owners asking to flick you. try not to be so god damn confrontational. i want to see the class get some traction, and take it from me, it's better for all of us if you just stick to the tasks at hand. battling doesn't get it.

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New Price ...

$56,000.

 

Serious Inquiries: 312 375 1696 or smkashy@yahoo.com

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New Price ...

$56,000.

 

Serious Inquiries: 312 375 1696 or smkashy@yahoo.com

 

June 11 update:

 

Price is $51,000. Reasonable offers considered. Regards, Sam

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doooooouglas....get some of your ATL rednecks on this boat!!

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doooooouglas....get some of your ATL rednecks on this boat!!

 

On the down low and KEEP IT SECRET ( unsure.gif )... I've got two guys kicking around about this boat right now... one of them was one that I did not expect to be that interested. Heck... we may end up with 5-6 of these rascals on the lake by the end of the year.

 

Going to be one heck of a series down in PNS (sorry for the pitch... we'll... not really that sorry! cool.gif )

 

Doug

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cool, that would be great if you got 5-6 boats...

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cool, that would be great if you got 5-6 boats...

 

That is 5-6 at the lake... looking like 10+ for the series down in PNS!!! biggrin.gif

 

Doug

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cool, that would be great if you got 5-6 boats...

 

That is 5-6 at the lake... looking like 10+ for the series down in PNS!!! biggrin.gif

 

Doug

 

Doug,

 

How are your guys doing down there? Please connect me with those who may want to join the fleet.

 

Thanks

 

Sammy

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cool, that would be great if you got 5-6 boats...

 

That is 5-6 at the lake... looking like 10+ for the series down in PNS!!! biggrin.gif

 

Doug

 

Doug,

 

How are your guys doing down there? Please connect me with those who may want to join the fleet.

 

Thanks

 

Sammy

 

 

I'll let them know...

 

Doug

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If you’ve never sailed Flying Tiger…

 

100th Race To Mac - Sunday 12:30am 36 hrs into the race: TWS = 20kts; TWA = 100 3-5ft seas

One of my best friends is on the helm for 35min as I take a rest. After his first slip out of the groove and a spinnaker snap back into flow, my attention was caught. After the second slip he asked the rest of the crew, whose next and one says, “I’ll try”. He responds – “No one is ‘trying’”. I respond that I’m Fresh and will be up in 3min. Pure joy for the next 2.5 hrs 20-25kts 3-5ft seas. … 9 surfing gybes without apparent wind at 9-13kts boat speed.

 

The Flying Tiger has a great grove. Bob Perry has designed a finely balanced racing machine.

 

Interested? Call 312 375 1696

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For Sale or Boat Partner in Chicago.

 

Inquire:

312 375 1696

 

Sammy

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Have a friend looking for a boat in Australia, this Chicago boat looks like real value.

Can the mast be broken down for transport, if it has been properly glued then it would not come apart.

One idea, does anyone want to buy a mast section and a trailer, the rest should go back into a container.

We could get a new mast sections from CST Sydney. Just ideas looking for suggestions.

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Have a friend looking for a boat in Australia, this Chicago boat looks like real value.

Can the mast be broken down for transport, if it has been properly glued then it would not come apart.

One idea, does anyone want to buy a mast section and a trailer, the rest should go back into a container.

We could get a new mast sections from CST Sydney. Just ideas looking for suggestions.

 

Jay

Could this be another boat for WA?

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yes..it would be good to get another into RPYC.

However, shipping a mast outside a container would kill the possibility.

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yes..it would be good to get another into RPYC.

However, shipping a mast outside a container would kill the possibility.

 

You could cut the mast through where it was joined originally and then grind out the sleeve (think about training wheels/depth guide on a grinder)... the replace the sleeve to reattach it. That way you are only up for a new sleeve. You will find that the sleeve will only be partially glued as a lot of glue falls off when it was inseted so it will not be as bad as you think. On the trailer if there was a cheap way to ship it to Sydney I might be interested.

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yes..it would be good to get another into RPYC.

However, shipping a mast outside a container would kill the possibility.

 

You could cut the mast through where it was joined originally and then grind out the sleeve (think about training wheels/depth guide on a grinder)... the replace the sleeve to reattach it. That way you are only up for a new sleeve. You will find that the sleeve will only be partially glued as a lot of glue falls off when it was inseted so it will not be as bad as you think. On the trailer if there was a cheap way to ship it to Sydney I might be interested.

 

When the boats absolutely, positively have to be there overnight.

 

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How much is postage for that one?

 

Seriously, I am interested in investigating this if you guys are:

 

Ship a Tiger to Australia - How and how much?

Ship a Trailer to Australia - same

Mast - New from CST or cut & ship.

 

Sam

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How much is postage for that one?

 

Seriously, I am interested in investigating this if you guys are:

 

Ship a Tiger to Australia - How and how much?

Ship a Trailer to Australia - same

Mast - New from CST or cut & ship.

 

Sam

 

From what I have heard they are keen but only if it will go back into a container as there is to much risk in deck cargo.

If you look into it for them it might be worth it.

Good Luck

Strobe

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How much is postage for that one?

 

Seriously, I am interested in investigating this if you guys are:

 

Ship a Tiger to Australia - How and how much?

Ship a Trailer to Australia - same

Mast - New from CST or cut & ship.

 

Sam

From what I have heard they are keen but only if it will go back into a container as there is to much risk in deck cargo.

If you look into it for them it might be worth it.

Good Luck

Strobe

Repackaging the boat into a container is a costly affair since the shipping cradles have been discarded (although I managed to salvage one of them).

 

Then there is the problem with cutting the mast, and the trailer will certainly not fit into the same container.

 

A better option would be to try to ship the boat on the trailer with the mast on top as deck cargo. Perhaps it can be shipped in an open container on the vary top of a container ship.

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How much is postage for that one?

 

Seriously, I am interested in investigating this if you guys are:

 

Ship a Tiger to Australia - How and how much?

Ship a Trailer to Australia - same

Mast - New from CST or cut & ship.

 

Sam

From what I have heard they are keen but only if it will go back into a container as there is to much risk in deck cargo.

If you look into it for them it might be worth it.

Good Luck

Strobe

Repackaging the boat into a container is a costly affair since the shipping cradles have been discarded (although I managed to salvage one of them).

 

Then there is the problem with cutting the mast, and the trailer will certainly not fit into the same container.

 

A better option would be to try to ship the boat on the trailer with the mast on top as deck cargo. Perhaps it can be shipped in an open container on the vary top of a container ship.

 

last time i looked at shipping boats from the states you could ship about 5 containers to oz for the cost of ro ro for a boat as big as a tiger

plus inevitable damage

my suggestion would be to try and get an open sided container and cut the undercarriage/ tongue off the trailer and use as an upright cradle, might just fit

these will need replacing for australian standards anyway (a good guy to talk to about this is Rob from Robs trailers in Perth 0412730898 he rebuilt an ally import trailer for me a couple of years ago)

i would look at Uship for the mast as a whole unit might, be a cheap way there

 

just remember if the trailer has a vin you have to get import permission from canberra prior to landing and this can take a couple of months, or it will be either held at your expense or destroyed

 

specialised boat importers are another really good idea, they're pretty cheap and have insurance!

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Talk to

http://www.matthewshort.com.au/

How much is postage for that one?

 

Seriously, I am interested in investigating this if you guys are:

 

Ship a Tiger to Australia - How and how much?

Ship a Trailer to Australia - same

Mast - New from CST or cut & ship.

 

Sam

From what I have heard they are keen but only if it will go back into a container as there is to much risk in deck cargo.

If you look into it for them it might be worth it.

Good Luck

Strobe

Repackaging the boat into a container is a costly affair since the shipping cradles have been discarded (although I managed to salvage one of them).

 

Then there is the problem with cutting the mast, and the trailer will certainly not fit into the same container.

 

A better option would be to try to ship the boat on the trailer with the mast on top as deck cargo. Perhaps it can be shipped in an open container on the vary top of a container ship.

 

last time i looked at shipping boats from the states you could ship about 5 containers to oz for the cost of ro ro for a boat as big as a tiger

plus inevitable damage

my suggestion would be to try and get an open sided container and cut the undercarriage/ tongue off the trailer and use as an upright cradle, might just fit

these will need replacing for australian standards anyway (a good guy to talk to about this is Rob from Robs trailers in Perth 0412730898 he rebuilt an ally import trailer for me a couple of years ago)

i would look at Uship for the mast as a whole unit might, be a cheap way there

 

just remember if the trailer has a vin you have to get import permission from canberra prior to landing and this can take a couple of months, or it will be either held at your expense or destroyed

 

specialised boat importers are another really good idea, they're pretty cheap and have insurance!

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Due to the temporary overvaluation of the $ AUS, why not buy a new boat and be done with it?

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Due to the temporary overvaluation of the $ AUS, why not buy a new boat and be done with it?

 

because it's cheaper and easier to buy the boat i have for sale in sydney. good tidy boat... great buy . im keen.... so email me on martinhunterjones@bigpond.com ...heaps easier and cheaper than getting one shipped from the other side of the planet

enjoy

mhj

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Thanks for the input, and the pms.

Sadly the prospective customer beat us yesterday, the first time for months, in his overweight 11mod. It was tricky..we got the snakes and he got the ladders! Now he his so happy with his race that it will take another few weeks before his continual wet arse will make him think of the comfort and speed of a Tiger again!

Meanwhile the suggestion of cutting the mast at the upper join seems best, a new internal sleeve fitted. On the container side, canvass covered open top 9ft 6in High Cube containers are available, Load the Tiger on its side by crane with a few matresses. The trailer could be attacked with an angle grinder and the bits loaded in the front of the box.

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why mess with an angle grinder ? ( maybe for the odd bolt that has decided to seize up ) The trailer is totally bolted together, it can be completely disassembled if needed. Equipped with an impact wrench (air) the trailer could be reduced to the 2 frame rails and a pile of parts in an hour. The hardest part would be labeling all the parts.

 

The sleaved mast joints can be loosened, I have loosened them and know of a couple of other instances where the sleaved joint was loosened. It can be done. At a minimum cut the sleave at the joint and replace it with a new one from CST. ( surgery by hacksaw ) The sleave can be sleaved, if the original sleave will not loosen after surgery, CST can supply a sleave for the sleave.

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BETTS RUDDER - I WILL GIVE A CREDIT TO COVER THE COST OF THE BETTS RUDDER.

 

 

Here are more detais:

From Eric S - Just wanted to remind everyone that the discounted rudder pricing will be ending shortly for the first batch of rudders. Jim Betts has offered to extend the discounted pricing for a short period of time following the AGM. After this time period the discounted offer will no longer be available unless a quantity of 10 rudders are ordered. Just to be clear, the discounted pricing will still be available in the future however owners will need to pool together to make an order of 10 to acquire the discount. Because of this a second group purchase is recommended in the future but the time frame is unknown at this stage. If you are hoping to use the new rudder for the 2011 season it is recommended that you secure your discount and build slot with a deposit.

 

Now is the time to step up to the new rudder and save. The rudders are currently discounted 7-10%. Orders and contact info can be found at the links below:

 

http://www.jbeinc.com/store/ft10_deposit.html

 

If you have any questions regarding the rudder and pricing please feel free to call Jim. So far over 15 rudders have already been spoken for.

 

Sincerely,

 

Eric S

"Ruckus"

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USA 006 for sale for any reasonable offer. Inquire at 312 375 1696. Sammy

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USA 069 is also available for sale. See the ad in the classified and make us an offer :)

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Test sail this year the boat you want to buy next year

 

Invitation – For those who are contemplating investing in a new boat for 2012 this is an invitation to test sail one of the more talked about boats in recent times. The Flying Tiger 10 PHRF’s 54 fast & a very reasonable investment. Experience what she’s like prior to making a commitment.

 

Please contact Sammy Kashy at 312 375 1696. Gung Ho is moored in Belmont Harbor.

Details:

 

 

Equipment:

TackTick Wind, Speed, Depth and Compass (New Compass Unit).

Sails - NP OEM M,J,S plus #4

Tohatsu 9.8 4-Stroke

WestCoast AB Aluminum Trailer

Full set of cushions

Hall Quick Vang (add on from base boat)

Awlgripped Mast and Boom

Sani-Potty

Marine Radio

 

$ 50,500.00 (Note: New FT10 in China, Transported to US, Commissioned, and equiped as above (w/o sails) costs approx $94,000)

 

Optional:

EPIRB

 

Contact: Sam Kashy smkashy@yahoo.com or 312 375 1696

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Test sail this year the boat you want to buy next year

 

Invitation – For those who are contemplating investing in a new boat for 2012 this is an invitation to test sail one of the more talked about boats in recent times. The Flying Tiger 10 PHRF’s 54 fast & a very reasonable investment. Experience what she’s like prior to making a commitment.

 

Please contact Sammy Kashy at 312 375 1696. Gung Ho is moored in Belmont Harbor.

Details:

 

 

Which one?

 

 

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&rlz=&q=belmont+harbor&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=324l2219l0l2599l11l8l0l1l1l0l379l731l3-2l2&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

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USA 069 is also available for sale. See the ad in the classified and make us an offer :)

Buy this boat you can call it lickety split or ying yang.

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Test sail this year the boat you want to buy next year

 

Invitation – For those who are contemplating investing in a new boat for 2012 this is an invitation to test sail one of the more talked about boats in recent times. The Flying Tiger 10 PHRF’s 54 fast & a very reasonable investment. Experience what she’s like prior to making a commitment.

 

Please contact Sammy Kashy at 312 375 1696. Gung Ho is moored in Belmont Harbor.

Details:

 

 

Equipment:

TackTick Wind, Speed, Depth and Compass (New Compass Unit).

Sails - NP OEM M,J,S plus #4

Tohatsu 9.8 4-Stroke

WestCoast AB Aluminum Trailer

Full set of cushions

Hall Quick Vang (add on from base boat)

Awlgripped Mast and Boom

Sani-Potty

Marine Radio

 

$ 50,500.00 (Note: New FT10 in China, Transported to US, Commissioned, and equiped as above (w/o sails) costs approx $94,000)

 

Optional:

EPIRB

 

Contact: Sam Kashy smkashy@yahoo.com or 312 375 1696

 

 

WOW!!!! $94,000 for a FT10 built in China!!!!!! Crazy..... I guess a USA Built Mumm/Farr 30 is a bargain at $110,000

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It's still a bargain !

 

Why the surpise ?

 

NO new boat prices ( or the price of anything ) are not what they were 5 years ago. Check the price of everything that goes into a boat... ALL of it costs more... No one wants to admit it, especially the goverment, there is serious inflation around.

 

Pre owned boats are the best bargain going.... MUMM 30 / FT 10

 

 

 

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It's still a bargain !

 

Why the surpise ?

 

NO new boat prices ( or the price of anything ) are not what they were 5 years ago. Check the price of everything that goes into a boat... ALL of it costs more... No one wants to admit it, especially the goverment, there is serious inflation around.

 

Pre owned boats are the best bargain going.... MUMM 30 / FT 10

 

Willing to ship boat at end of Chicago season to Pensacola for Winter Series or CA.

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SOLD - Sail Fast & Sail Safely new 006 team.

 

Sammy

 

Is the boat staying in your area or moving to??

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SOLD - Sail Fast & Sail Safely new 006 team.

 

Sammy

 

Congratulations Sammy!!

 

Hope the new owner does you proud and gets the boat on the line often!

 

Cheers!

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SOLD - Sail Fast & Sail Safely new 006 team.

 

Sammy

 

Is the boat staying in your area or moving to??

 

Moving ~4 miles south.

 

Now that 006 has sold, there will shortly be another FT10 available for the 4th owner in Chicago.

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