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First time TS has been out on the floor for while. That is his bald head isn't it?

 

Who are these guys?

 

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Photographers wondering about too

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^^^ :D

 

Full steam ahead with all the beautiful winged boats being born, umm, boat porn!

 

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Thanks for posting that.

Was just looking at the cam to see what has been going on.

 

W4 is in two pieces and looks like it's just waiting for Team X to drop by and pick it up.

 

W5 looks almost fully 'ribbed' and they seem to be working on some of the 'internals'.

 

The oven is still down - nothing to see back there.

 

There are two new 'spars' (lower left) that look to have either just arrived or are packed ready to go out.

 

Trestles set out for W6?

Sorry, I'm genuinely mystified re ovens. There has been no oven visible for several weeks, methinks.

 

There is an oven, out of camera view, at top right, where they layup and bag the main spar members before they are delivered to the shop for assembly.

 

 

 

 

Hopefully you can clear this up KJ. The question was raised as to what the largish structure in front of the windows at the far end (from the webcams perspective) of the shop is. It is sometimes raised and sometimes down at bench level. As no one had any better suggestions I guessed that it might be an enclosure, 'oven', for curing the spars for the flaps. On the assumption that that was work that was probably still being done by Core and the 'big oven' had been disassembled. I did not realise that they had another oven out of sight for the main spar sections, though should probably have thought about that a bit more. So what is that thing by the windows? And do they cure the flap spars in the 'invisible' oven as well?

Do you get out to Core very often?

The stuff you see in front of the windows is sufficiently unremarkable that I didn't pay much attention when I visited some time ago. I believe you're looking at a long work bench with rolls of material hanging above it.

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The stuff you see in front of the windows is sufficiently unremarkable that I didn't pay much attention when I visited some time ago. I believe you're looking at a long work bench with rolls of material hanging above it.

 

Thanks, I had better keep my wild guesses to myself from now on, (maybe not too far off with the mono-carbon suggestion though).

 

Any plans to visit again?

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The stuff you see in front of the windows is sufficiently unremarkable that I didn't pay much attention when I visited some time ago. I believe you're looking at a long work bench with rolls of material hanging above it.

 

Thanks, I had better keep my wild guesses to myself from now on, (maybe not too far off with the mono-carbon suggestion though).

 

Any plans to visit again?

 

No. I got the ten cent tour and that was it. Bloody impressive place.

 

I'm guessing they will start work on tooling for a 72 pretty soon, perhaps even before they complete the wing program. That should spell the end to casual visits.

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First time TS has been out on the floor for while. That is his bald head isn't it?

 

Who are these guys?

 

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Photographers wondering about too

Yes, TS.

 

The suit on the left is pretty interesting, accompanied an attache case carrier, and by the black guy packing a camera and who-knows-what-all else?

 

What do you think?

http://newzealand.us...ambassador.html

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According to Wikileaks, the US ambassador in NZ does a fair bit of spying.

 

And makes some insightful and intelligent comments about kiwi politics.

 

All he needs to remember is the Kiwi "no nukes" policy.

 

Which will not change.

 

So, Mr. Ambassador, no US nuclear weapons or ships in Aotearoa.

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First time TS has been out on the floor for while. That is his bald head isn't it?

 

Who are these guys?

 

Who.png

 

Photographers wondering about too

Yes, TS.

 

The suit on the left is pretty interesting, accompanied an attache case carrier, and by the black guy packing a camera and who-knows-what-all else?

 

What do you think?

http://newzealand.us...ambassador.html

 

 

Looks like a possibility, (but I've sworn off guessing)!

 

There were at least two other guys with big cameras poking about and taking shots rather than listening to TS. Perhaps their shots will turn up somewhere soon.

 

TK, the Seppos probably think of CORE as U.S. territory anyway!

 

 

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fresh out

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Putting It All Together

 

 

Following the successful debut and trials of the AC45 class prototype, three America's Cup teams have taken delivery of their identical one-design catamarans, which they are busy assembling in preparation for the July start of racing in the America's Cup World Series.

 

 

 

Among them are Swedish-flagged Artemis Racing, which has assigned two groups the task of finishing and assembling the hulls and the hard wing sail. At a boatyard in Silverdale, north of Auckland, Phil Jamieson and David Brooke were preparing to assemble the hulls once the painting team had completed the complex graphics.

 

"The hulls arrived here last week," said Jameson. "The first task was to finish fairing them and preparing them for painting."

 

The Global Yacht Finishers painters arrived on Monday morning and spent the day masking up the livery, which comprises the Greek goddess from whom the team derives its name with hair swirling down the hull.

 

Then, a marathon task for the painters led by Jason Hamilton as they worked non-stop for 30 hours to lay down the seven colours plus finishing clear-coats. After each application of colour, the graphics had to be remasked for the next colour, a process that could take up to two hours a time.

 

A table littered with chocolate bars, high-energy drink cans and pizza boxes gave evidence of how they sustained themselves through the long night.

 

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Looks like they are assembling a set of flaps for someone, or testing for fit?

 

Meanwhile the white wing, W5, has it's leech cap on. Still no sign of the next main spar.

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The large piece on the left by the open door could be a W6 main spar section ready to go into the jig.

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Looks like they are assembling a set of flaps for someone, or testing for fit?

 

Meanwhile the white wing, W5, has it's leech cap on. Still no sign of the next main spar.

W4II.png

 

The large piece on the left by the open door could be a W6 main spar section ready to go into the jig.

 

 

We'll see.

 

Ok now tell me you hadn't seen this before you posted about the Ambassador (insider info I guess) ? http://www.oraclerac...olioID=515&co=1

 

But... we get to see the oven that is still in operation at Core but out of sight of the webcam, a sail loft and interesting bits of carbon fabrication that have nothing to do with the AC45(??)

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The large piece on the left by the open door could be a W6 main spar section ready to go into the jig.

 

We'll see.

 

Ok now tell me you hadn't seen this before you posted about the Ambassador ? http://www.oraclerac...olioID=515&co=1

 

No, I had not seen that. Someone living in NZ did clue me in to the possibility though, turns out he was right. Thanks, you-know-who! :)

 

This is a neat shot, I wonder where in the building it is. Around the corner from the web cam view to the far right?

 

http://www.oraclerac...gf515p96n2.html

 

That piece on the left could well be a spar. In one of the construction videos you can see that there is space on the left for a section, the far left end of it from the web cam's view would be close to another large door. That door faces the same direction as the cam, so perpendicular to the door that we can see live.

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TK, the Seppos probably think of CORE as U.S. territory anyway!

 

 

If so, they have done a good job on their disguises.

 

When I first went there I just drove to Warkworth and followed a road to an "industrial estate."

 

Felt I was getting close when I reached the possum wool knitwear factory.

 

There were a lot of roadworks underway so I asked a flagperson "where are the America's Cup boats being built?"

 

"Dunno mate!", says he.

 

After a couple of wrong turns I found it. Less than 100 metres from where the roadsworks guy was waving his flag.

 

When I got there it was lunchtime and the builders were all sunning themselves on a loading bay.

 

It is a clean looking place with no signage except the "visitors report to reception" thing at the door.

 

Their vans say "Core Builders" and there is quite a bit of going out to Warkworth bakeries to get stuff for lunch.

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fresh out

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Putting It All Together

 

 

Following the successful debut and trials of the AC45 class prototype, three America's Cup teams have taken delivery of their identical one-design catamarans, which they are busy assembling in preparation for the July start of racing in the America's Cup World Series.

 

 

 

Among them are Swedish-flagged Artemis Racing, which has assigned two groups the task of finishing and assembling the hulls and the hard wing sail. At a boatyard in Silverdale, north of Auckland, Phil Jamieson and David Brooke were preparing to assemble the hulls once the painting team had completed the complex graphics.

 

"The hulls arrived here last week," said Jameson. "The first task was to finish fairing them and preparing them for painting."

 

The Global Yacht Finishers painters arrived on Monday morning and spent the day masking up the livery, which comprises the Greek goddess from whom the team derives its name with hair swirling down the hull.

 

Then, a marathon task for the painters led by Jason Hamilton as they worked non-stop for 30 hours to lay down the seven colours plus finishing clear-coats. After each application of colour, the graphics had to be remasked for the next colour, a process that could take up to two hours a time.

 

A table littered with chocolate bars, high-energy drink cans and pizza boxes gave evidence of how they sustained themselves through the long night.

 

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contd

 

The boatbuilding team would then begin the task of assembling the hulls and deck gear, prior to launching on Saturday.

Spies, is that convenient?

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This deserves it's own thread. But, to avoid clutter I will put it here.

 

TE KOOTI EXPOSES MAJOR CUP SECRET !

 

TJ and the OR PR department are still smarting from the slagging they received after the Facebook/Flintstone's debacle.

 

And you will notice they have not recently said much about it.

 

Researchers at Princeton, Harvard, Stanford and the University of Outer Mongolia are deeply fascinated by the source of this foolish false dichotomy.

 

Until now it was assumed it was a manifestation of the spontaneous wit of Tim Jefferey.

 

But now there is new evidence.

 

The following picture was taken in Warkworth - while en route to Core Builders !!!

Did the Flintstone characterization stem from discursive eruptions at Core?

 

Did RC notice this country restaurant - or eat lunch there?

 

Stand by. The truth has an ugly habit of exposing itself.

 

 

 

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Can't wait to see the Oracle TNZ colors.:D

 

Can't wait to see the ETNZ boat which, completely opposite to what you predicted, is paid for and safe and secure and being busily assembled as we speak inside the ETNZ base :D. Are you still so completely convinced they were not the 4th entry?

 

 

The FV article said ML would be taking the 4th boat, apparently their source did not realize ML was still frozen. Given VO's statement on the matter and the fact they have not (yet) been sailing in Auckland then perhaps it should be no surprise that boat is idle. That ML did draw straws for it, and did have reps in Auckland for the week of meetings, suggests they still have the intent to move forward if/when they secure their funding, quite obviously not from Larry or else they would not be frozen, now would they?

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Can't wait to see the Oracle TNZ colors.:D

 

Can't wait to see the ETNZ boat which, completely opposite to what you predicted, is paid for and safe and secure and being busily assembled as we speak inside the ETNZ base :D. Are you still so completely convinced they were not the 4th entry?

 

 

The FV article said ML would be taking the 4th boat, apparently their source did not realize ML was still frozen. Given VO's statement on the matter and the fact they have not (yet) been sailing in Auckland then perhaps it should be no surprise that boat is idle. That ML did draw straws for it, and did have reps in Auckland for the week of meetings, suggests they still have the intent to move forward if/when they secure their funding, quite obviously not from Larry or else they would not be frozen, now would they?

Obvious? ML boat is being looked after by OR. Artemis boat logos applied. TNZ nowhere to be seen but still unfunded. You version is life but not as we know it Jim.smile.gif

 

 

 

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Obvious? ML boat is being looked after by OR. Artemis boat logos applied. TNZ nowhere to be seen but still unfunded. You version is life but not as we know it Jim.smile.gif

I have no idea why you are so confused about who has bought boats for themselves so far. Hint: It is the exact same teams who already had tiller time on the ACRM boat. An occasional poster here IM'd me they have seen TNZ's boat, already inside their base.

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Obvious? ML boat is being looked after by OR. Artemis boat logos applied. TNZ nowhere to be seen but still unfunded. You version is life but not as we know it Jim.smile.gif

I have no idea why you are so confused about who has bought boats for themselves so far. Hint: It is the exact same teams who already had tiller time on the ACRM boat. An occasional poster here IM'd me they have seen TNZ's boat, already inside their base.

Oh yeah? When did ML take "tiller time" on the ACRM boat? I'm interested to know why TK?RG?DNZ have failed to get a photo of the TNZ boat? What you post is not the truth necessarily. That is a proven fact.

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I'd like be the US Ambassador to New Zealand. I'd dress more conservatively, the better to speak to the discipline of the position. The Kiwi's would take note...

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Oh yeah? When did ML take "tiller time" on the ACRM boat?

They never have, that is what I said too. They are apparently going to stay 'frozen' until they get full funding.

 

Other teams have also not sailed it yet, for reasons that may or may not be funding related. In ML's case we know that it is funding, because VO has flat out told us so.

 

Have any of the other teams already made deposits? We don't know, because they have not said.

 

In TNZ's case they are staying low profile until, presumably, such time GD 'pulls the trigger' publicly. As soon as we see the TNZ boat graphics, then you'd think the secret will be out and the campaign will suddenly become more high profile. The guy who told me of the boat in the base has no reason to lie, and never has before.

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Oh yeah? When did ML take "tiller time" on the ACRM boat?

They never have, that is what I said too. They are apparently going to stay 'frozen' until they get full funding.

 

Other teams have also not sailed it yet, for reasons that may or may not be funding related. In ML's case we know that it is funding, because VO has flat out told us so.

 

Have any of the other teams already made deposits? We don't know, because they have not said.

 

In TNZ's case they are staying low profile until, presumably, such time GD 'pulls the trigger' publicly. As soon as we see the TNZ boat graphics, then you'd the secret will be out and the campaign will suddenly become more high profile. The guy who told me of the boat in the base has no reason to lie, and never has before.

Hang on mate. What you said about "tiller time" being the defining feature of the first 4 boat owners is complete BS. You talk like you have authority but actually you just troll for your OR masters. Take a rain check SR and come back with the truth.

 

 

 

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Hang on mate. What you said about "tiller time" being the defining feature of the first 4 boat owners is complete BS. You talk like you have authority but actually you just troll for your OR masters. Take a rain check SR and come back with the truth.

I am just looking at the same facts that everyone else here is and coming to the same conclusions as everyone but, apparently, you.

 

The photos, even some videos, clearly show OR, TNZ and Artemis at the tiller. In that order, for whatever reasons. We also have IM in memos and on video saying you don't get tiller time unless you have a boat coming.

 

What do we have as evidence from you, for TNZ being not signed up? Nada - Zilch!

 

I have also shared what I have been told by people down there, which is that TNZ has already signed a deal with Emirates, and TK seems to confirm it. And that the TNZ boat is in the base. You may choose not to believe any of that, but I am plenty confident you will be proved mistaken on those counts too.

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Hang on mate. What you said about "tiller time" being the defining feature of the first 4 boat owners is complete BS. You talk like you have authority but actually you just troll for your OR masters. Take a rain check SR and come back with the truth.

I am just looking at the same facts that everyone else here is and coming to the same conclusions as everyone but, apparently, you.

 

The photos, even some videos, clearly show OR, TNZ and Artemis at the tiller. In that order, for whatever reasons. We also have IM in memos and on video saying you don't get tiller time unless you have a boat coming.

 

What do we have as evidence from you, for TNZ being not signed up? Nada - Zilch!

 

I have also shared what I have been told by people down there, which is that TNZ has already signed a deal with Emirates, and TK seems to confirm it. And that the TNZ boat is in the base. You may choose not to believe any of that, but I am plenty confident you will be proved mistaken on those counts too.

The TNZ AC34 campaign is as good as invisible except on this forum. If they get an AC45 great. I'll be looking forward to hearing who paid for it. You avoid ML again. The CoR with no "tiller time" and taking delivery of a small boat they can't afford to buy. Ha, ha.

 

 

 

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Oh yeah? When did ML take "tiller time" on the ACRM boat?

They never have, that is what I said too. They are apparently going to stay 'frozen' until they get full funding.

 

Other teams have also not sailed it yet, for reasons that may or may not be funding related. In ML's case we know that it is funding, because VO has flat out told us so.

 

Have any of the other teams already made deposits? We don't know, because they have not said.

 

In TNZ's case they are staying low profile until, presumably, such time GD 'pulls the trigger' publicly. As soon as we see the TNZ boat graphics, then you'd the secret will be out and the campaign will suddenly become more high profile. The guy who told me of the boat in the base has no reason to lie, and never has before.

Hang on mate. What you said about "tiller time" being the defining feature of the first 4 boat owners is complete BS. You talk like you have authority but actually you just troll for your OR masters. Take a rain check SR and come back with the truth.

 

Isn't it a little ironic that the biggest bullshitter on here is spewing orders for everyone else to answer asinine questions and or go away until they come up with facts ?

 

Lets start with you going away until you can provide definitive proof and factual information that TNZ has no funding, absolutely none, at this time, as you claim. Didn't see a boat = no funding ? Try again. No pictures of a boat = no funding ? Try again. Your window is rapidly closing with this rumor so you better make the most of it before it blows up in your face. Could happen any day now.

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Oh yeah? When did ML take "tiller time" on the ACRM boat?

They never have, that is what I said too. They are apparently going to stay 'frozen' until they get full funding.

 

Other teams have also not sailed it yet, for reasons that may or may not be funding related. In ML's case we know that it is funding, because VO has flat out told us so.

 

Have any of the other teams already made deposits? We don't know, because they have not said.

 

In TNZ's case they are staying low profile until, presumably, such time GD 'pulls the trigger' publicly. As soon as we see the TNZ boat graphics, then you'd the secret will be out and the campaign will suddenly become more high profile. The guy who told me of the boat in the base has no reason to lie, and never has before.

Hang on mate. What you said about "tiller time" being the defining feature of the first 4 boat owners is complete BS. You talk like you have authority but actually you just troll for your OR masters. Take a rain check SR and come back with the truth.

 

Isn't it a little ironic that the biggest bullshitter on here is spewing orders for everyone else to answer asinine questions and or go away until they come up with facts ?

 

Lets start with you going away until you can provide definitive proof and factual information that TNZ has no funding, absolutely none, at this time, as you claim. Didn't see a boat = no funding ? Try again. No pictures of a boat = no funding ? Try again. Your window is rapidly closing with this rumor so you better make the most of it before it blows up in your face. Could happen any day now.

Your reply does not address the previous posts. SR stated that "tiller time" was the deciding factor as to which teams had paid for an AC45. ML is "getting" number 4 but has no "tiller time". I'm right here and you and SR are rapidly getting out of your depth trying to defend the OR machine. You twist and turn as much as you like but the facts will bite you in the ass sooner or later. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.biggrin.gif

 

 

 

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Wow ... look at the politics in Artemis.

 

When their challenge was announced Juan K and Tom Schnack were described as the design "brains trust."

But now Schnack is not even pictured among the many designers.

 

Instead, Juan K is "principal designer" and TS is "Design and performance liaison."

 

I bet there is a juicy story behind fractures in those fault lines.

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I'm interested to know why TK?RG?DNZ have failed to get a photo of the TNZ boat?

 

 

Answering for myself:

1. An old-fashioned sense of patriotism

2. Respect for GD's game plan

3. Minding my own business

4. Not bothering people when they are busy

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SR stated that "tiller time" was the deciding factor as to which teams had paid for an AC45. ML is "getting" number 4 but has no "tiller time". I'm right here and you and SR are rapidly getting out of your depth trying to defend the OR machine. You twist and turn as much as you like but the facts will bite you in the ass sooner or later. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.biggrin.gif

What I (tried to) say is that by the rules we can read and hear people such as IM talk about, you only get tiller time if you have a boat coming. What is so hard to understand in that?

 

If you do not yet have any tiller time, well that does not preclude you from taking delivery that I know of. It is possible that an ET has placed an order, but will not go to Auckland until delivery time. For all we know, except for the SimonN rumor, it could even be true of ML's plans. They don't even have a wing yet, it only came out of the jig this morning.

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SR stated that "tiller time" was the deciding factor as to which teams had paid for an AC45. ML is "getting" number 4 but has no "tiller time". I'm right here and you and SR are rapidly getting out of your depth trying to defend the OR machine. You twist and turn as much as you like but the facts will bite you in the ass sooner or later. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.biggrin.gif

What I (tried to) say is that by the rules we can read and hear people such as IM talk about, you only get tiller time if you have a boat coming. What is so hard to understand in that?

 

If you do not yet have any tiller time, well that does not preclude you from taking delivery that I know of. It is possible that an ET has placed an order, but will not go to Auckland until delivery time. For all we know, except for the SimonN rumor, it could even be true of ML's plans. They don't even have a wing yet, it only came out of the jig this morning.

You only get a boat coming if you pay for it. That's in the rules too.biggrin.gif

 

 

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I'm interested to know why TK?RG?DNZ have failed to get a photo of the TNZ boat?

 

The answer seems obvious: because graphics are inextricably tied to the identity of the name sponsor, that's why. I don't think they can unveil the boat without it.

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You avoid ML again. The CoR with no "tiller time" and taking delivery of a small boat they can't afford to buy. Ha, ha.

I very much doubt that VO can't afford to buy the damn thing, it would be an easy coin flip to him. But if in the end he can't find the help he wants to fund a full campaign, then perhaps it is for the best if he left that boat available to another team. Production could become an issue if there really are potentially 10 teams racing in the AC45 part of the ACWS, plus extra demand for second boats and wings. I would sooner have potentially limited supply boats go to teams only once they have confidence in moving forward.

 

VO said in his statement he was in discussions with potential sponsors, let's all just hope that works out. If not, then Artemis becomes CoR and we lose a potential team, a situation that is hardly the end of anyone's world.

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Answering for myself:

1. An old-fashioned sense of patriotism

2. Respect for GD's game plan

3. Minding my own business

4. Not bothering people when they are busy

Good on ya, mate. Keep the eye on the prize, no need to compromise the plan by proving someone wrong on the www.

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Wing 6 leading edges have arrived

And now the W6 main spar too! I had been thinking the part to the left (tip barely visible) was to be part of it but it is not, maybe it is something extra.

 

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The tunnel-shaped oven visible in the Ambassador photos had its doors closed during his visit, I bet W6 is freshly baked from out of there.

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So, Artemis is upping the ante on setting the precedent of a BEAUTIFUL boat. Oracle is a nice looking boat, certainly not anything artistic. TNZ should look really nice, but I don't know that their boat will be as nice as the Artemis boat, usually it is their sails that look really nice. It will be very interesting to see what Energy comes up with. Can't wait to see these things rolling out of the sheds in the coming weeks.

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A look like this could be hot

 

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Pretty likely to be similar, I would think. Like I said, looks really nice, I just think that Artemis boat is spectacular.

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So, Artemis is upping the ante on setting the precedent of a BEAUTIFUL boat. Oracle is a nice looking boat, certainly not anything artistic. TNZ should look really nice, but I don't know that their boat will be as nice as the Artemis boat, usually it is their sails that look really nice. It will be very interesting to see what Energy comes up with. Can't wait to see these things rolling out of the sheds in the coming weeks.

The spectacle will be seeing them all tricked out on the water together rocketing around. That will provide for some great video footage.

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So, Artemis is upping the ante on setting the precedent of a BEAUTIFUL boat. Oracle is a nice looking boat, certainly not anything artistic. TNZ should look really nice, but I don't know that their boat will be as nice as the Artemis boat, usually it is their sails that look really nice. It will be very interesting to see what Energy comes up with. Can't wait to see these things rolling out of the sheds in the coming weeks.

The spectacle will be seeing them all tricked out on the water together rocketing around. That will provide for some great video footage.

 

Yep. It will be very interesting to see what they do with the wings.

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So, Artemis is upping the ante on setting the precedent of a BEAUTIFUL boat. Oracle is a nice looking boat, certainly not anything artistic. TNZ should look really nice, but I don't know that their boat will be as nice as the Artemis boat, usually it is their sails that look really nice. It will be very interesting to see what Energy comes up with. Can't wait to see these things rolling out of the sheds in the coming weeks.

The spectacle will be seeing them all tricked out on the water together rocketing around. That will provide for some great video footage.

Remember all the hell people went through, trying to keep up with DZ in Anacortes, San Diego and Valencia?

 

I hope there are some fast boats in Auckland!

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Dang, was hoping to catch it. W4 has left the building. I expect it is headed to ACRM at Halsey St, for Oracle Racing where their hulls are.

 

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Re ETNZ staying low.

 

Was down tere this afternoon.

 

Wing finished and having graphics applied.

 

Finishing work being done on hulls etc.

 

Hope to splash monday or tuesday.

 

Took photos but they asked me not to publish as they want the official launch thursday to be the reveal all.

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Re ETNZ staying low.

 

Was down tere this afternoon.

 

Wing finished and having graphics applied.

 

Finishing work being done on hulls etc.

 

Hope to splash monday or tuesday.

 

Took photos but they asked me not to publish as they want the official launch thursday to be the reveal all.

 

Excellent news. Thursday this week, or next?

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ETNZ hope to splash monday or tuesday.

 

Official launch thursday ... the reveal all.

 

Wow! I hope Rocky can make it.

 

And give Grant a big koha.

 

To make up for bad behaviour by Rocky.

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Great news all around!

 

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Looking a bit empty at Core.

W5 is back to white but looks ready for another spraying, W6 spar awaits.

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ETNZ hope to splash monday or tuesday.

 

Official launch thursday ... the reveal all.

 

Wow! I hope Rocky can make it.

 

And give Grant a big koha.

 

To make up for bad behaviour by Rocky.

I'm sending William as my representative to visit NZ next week.

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Re ETNZ staying low.

 

Was down tere this afternoon.

 

Wing finished and having graphics applied.

 

Finishing work being done on hulls etc.

 

Hope to splash monday or tuesday.

 

Took photos but they asked me not to publish as they want the official launch thursday to be the reveal all.

 

 

Thanks for the update. Awesome news. It's going to be hard for them to watch Artemis out there on the water and not get in and mix it up with them for those couple of days, I bet.

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Great news all around!

 

Looking a bit empty at Core.

W5 is back to white but looks ready for another spraying, W6 spar awaits.

 

Excellent news indeed. If by Thursday he means today then this will be a lot of fun!

 

W5 got spayed after yesterday's shift, so that white is fresh. It may be the same stuff that we saw get 'wiped' off of W4 after it got an application, almost like a polish top-coat? They looked to be using little more than a towel to do the removal.

 

--

 

Fun article today at here:

 

 

Glowing reviews for the AC45

 

On Wednesday afternoon, there was an opportunity for some media to get on board the AC45 for a test session. The cat stayed out longer than scheduled and returned with the crew grinning ear to ear.

 

 

 

Not surprisingly then, the reviews were glowing: "I've done Formula One and the Super Bowl but that was freaking insane!"

 

contd

 

noteworthy:

 

Wednesday's day out with the media marked the last scheduled sail for the prototype catamaran before the ACRM team focuses on assisting Competitors with logistics for launching their new AC45s, some of which are expected to be launched next week.

 

The ACRM prototype boat will then return to use as shared test platform for other Competitors before the next 45s come out of production.

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Awesome news. It's going to be hard for them to watch Artemis out there on the water and not get in and mix it up with them for those couple of days, I bet.

 

Looks like the ACRM crane (run by a TNZ bloke) will be used by everyone. Artemis and OR are both in the old Blakey shed at 101 Halsey. NZ are across the fence with an open gate in-between.

 

ACRM have said they will assist teams with launching/retrieving.

 

This level of cooperation is better than all the secrecy (and espionage) shit of yesteryear.

 

Partly arises from the fact IM is universally respected.

 

If Artemis go first, they will quickly have the company of TNZ.

 

Dalts is always in a hurry. And does not muck around.

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Someone around the Viaduct should put up a trophy - like a dozen Tui beer - for a 3-boat round robin regatta.

Lay some marks, appoint a "race committee" and do the following.

 

OR versus Artemis

 

TNZ versus OR

 

Artemis versus TNZ

 

Followed by a "final" for the two best teams.

 

Loser to pay for the beer.

 

I recently saw Chris Dickson at the Viaduct (he and the missus arrived late for the blessing of the ACRM AC45).

 

Maybe he could buy the beer.

 

 

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Someone around the Viaduct should put up a trophy - like a dozen Tui beer - for a 3-boat round robin regatta.

Lay some marks, appoint a "race committee" and do the following.

 

OR versus Artemis

 

TNZ versus OR

 

Artemis versus TNZ

 

Followed by a "final" for the two best teams.

 

Loser to pay for the beer.

 

I recently saw Chris Dickson at the Viaduct (he and the missus arrived late for the blessing of the ACRM AC45).

 

Maybe he could buy the beer.

 

 

 

 

Hell... If it'll get them on the water quicker, I'll buy the beer!!!

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Hard to say how much of it she got perfectly correct, but since Michelle Slade apparently got the straight skinny from Fresh and JK today, she may very well have it right.

 

She wrote

Artemis drew first and got boat 1, a yet undisclosed team drew boat 2 and ORACLE Racing drew boat 3. Mascalzone Latino received boat 4 which was available slightly late. The draw was among those who had purchased the first four boats, as the first batch of boats available after the prototype were just four in total. The next boats come on line in April as production continues.

 

Which jives perfectly with the FV report a couple days back about who drew what straws for these 4 boats, so that's good and also suggests both accounts are accurate. This account does not jive at all with the rumor-bomb that Simon dropped, since it says ML both bought and received their boat - not OR. Given the context of who she spoke to, I tend to believe her (their) account even if it is also what I prefer to believe. Fresh is for sure very well tuned in to daily activity statuses.

 

So anyway..... Nav, you've been asking about those pieces at the back of the room against the windows for some time. Since we saw the Ambassador photos from on Monday we know that there is currently a tunnel shaped oven just around the corner to the right. The wall to our webcam view's right has multiple windows in it into a separate and quite large room. If we were facing that wall, looking say from the big door to the landing on the left, facing across this final assembly area, then we would see those windows; and then to the left of them see along that back wall where the tunnel oven is. It stretches a long way back, almost certainly it is where the two main spar sections come out of. Those pieces we can see along the far wall from the webcam's perspective look to be on trollies, I think they are for carting flap spar sections in and out of that same tunnel oven.

 

In recalling the construction videos there is also a very large space in the facility that has hardwood floors and looks like (probably is) a sail loft. We also saw a lot of machinery, such as the 3-axis, and saw reports of the coming huge one - mentioned by RG in an article.

 

But I am glad that if we had to have a choice of just one webcam we get to see this final assembly area. I could hardly believe it was real, the first time I saw it!

 

On that note.... from minutes ago. White 5 for ML, Sweet 6 is the one ready to go in the jig next.

 

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In the first of the pics above, visible lying flat on the tables that are to the far right-back near the waste can, are molds for what are likely the cambering flap controller batwings. They could be foam-sculptured moulds. The batwings may go in the same oven for cooking, and that oven's entrance is just around the corner.

 

Fun to figure this place out, even if it will for sure go into ultra secret AC72 lock-down wing mode at some point soon.

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Fun to figure this place out, even if it will for sure go into ultra secret AC72 lock-down wing mode at some point soon.

 

There is bound to be a white plastic chair lying around somewhere.

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Fun to figure this place out, even if it will for sure go into ultra secret AC72 lock-down wing mode at some point soon.

 

There is bound to be a white plastic chair lying around somewhere.

 

Where's his highness when you need him ?

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Fun to figure this place out, even if it will for sure go into ultra secret AC72 lock-down wing mode at some point soon.

 

There is bound to be a white plastic chair lying around somewhere.

 

Where's his highness when you need him ?

 

William will be with you next week.

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Fun to figure this place out, even if it will for sure go into ultra secret AC72 lock-down wing mode at some point soon.

 

There is bound to be a white plastic chair lying around somewhere.

 

Where's his highness when you need him ?

 

I would mainly like to see your face when they put TNZ in the water. Imagine, a Kiwi boat with a Kiwi mast! I think you will need a week of rest in Noth Dakota. They must not have many trolls there, they will welcome you. :lol:

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Fun to figure this place out, even if it will for sure go into ultra secret AC72 lock-down wing mode at some point soon.

 

There are better shots earlier in this thread that show more of the building. You posted this one and there was a shot that showed more of this space from above very early just after the first hull came out.

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Fun to figure this place out, even if it will for sure go into ultra secret AC72 lock-down wing mode at some point soon.

 

There are better shots earlier in this thread that show more of the building. You posted this one and there was a shot that showed more of this space from above very early just after the first hull came out.

True, we probably could figure the facility's floorplan with some effort.

 

In that one of what is now the wing assembly area, if you look in the top-right area you can see a large DZ poster on the wall. The 'tunnel oven area' that is 'around the corner' is just past that poster. You can often see guys walking around that corner, I think they have to walk quite a long way alongside the oven, to wherever it is they are headed to. Lots of walking in general - even the final assembly area is large. Big enough to build an AC72 wing? Hard to say.

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Fun to figure this place out, even if it will for sure go into ultra secret AC72 lock-down wing mode at some point soon.

 

There is bound to be a white plastic chair lying around somewhere.

 

Where's his highness when you need him ?

 

I would mainly like to see your face when they put TNZ in the water. Imagine, a Kiwi boat with a Kiwi mast! I think you will need a week of rest in Noth Dakota. They must not have many trolls there, they will welcome you. :lol:

SWS advised Ellison not to build the boats in NZ but Ellison just laughed at him.laugh.gif

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Fun to figure this place out, even if it will for sure go into ultra secret AC72 lock-down wing mode at some point soon.

 

There is bound to be a white plastic chair lying around somewhere.

 

Where's his highness when you need him ?

 

I would mainly like to see your face when they put TNZ in the water. Imagine, a Kiwi boat with a Kiwi mast! I think you will need a week of rest in Noth Dakota. They must not have many trolls there, they will welcome you. :lol:

SWS advised Ellison not to build the boats in NZ but Ellison just laughed at him.laugh.gif

 

 

He's also told you to fuck off plenty of times and you've laughed at him too...:lol:

 

So I guess it's par for the course...;)

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Fun to figure this place out, even if it will for sure go into ultra secret AC72 lock-down wing mode at some point soon.

 

There is bound to be a white plastic chair lying around somewhere.

 

Where's his highness when you need him ?

 

I would mainly like to see your face when they put TNZ in the water. Imagine, a Kiwi boat with a Kiwi mast! I think you will need a week of rest in Noth Dakota. They must not have many trolls there, they will welcome you. :lol:

On the contrary, and another boneheaded comment from the peanut gallery. I welcome TNZ's splash with the AC45 and look forward to them competing.

 

One or two bad apples may have a bad rap, but don't spoil the bunch. Look at RC, Harold Bennett who is a total hero, and the others that are supporting AC34 :).

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Fun to figure this place out, even if it will for sure go into ultra secret AC72 lock-down wing mode at some point soon.

 

There is bound to be a white plastic chair lying around somewhere.

 

Where's his highness when you need him ?

 

I would mainly like to see your face when they put TNZ in the water. Imagine, a Kiwi boat with a Kiwi mast! I think you will need a week of rest in Noth Dakota. They must not have many trolls there, they will welcome you. :lol:

On the contrary, and another boneheaded comment from the peanut gallery. I welcome TNZ's splash with the AC45 and look forward to them competing.

 

One or two bad apples may have a bad rap, but don't spoil the bunch. Look at RC, Harold Bennett who is a total hero, and the others that are supporting AC34 :).

 

The "one or two bad apples " were not mast manufacturers but you decided not to buy it from the Kiwis. Have good holydays in North Dakota B)

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The "one or two bad apples " were not mast manufacturers but you decided not to buy it from the Kiwis. Have good holydays in North Dakota B)

 

It gets worse TC. Everyone says that the 45s are great boats and OR are buying 3 of them. WTF? laugh.gif

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The "one or two bad apples " were not mast manufacturers but you decided not to buy it from the Kiwis. Have good holydays in North Dakota B)

 

It gets worse TC. Everyone says that the 45s are great boats and OR are buying 3 of them. WTF? laugh.gif

 

"30 knts. tack so quickly and the flow stays attached so its challenging for the skipper to get across before the hull is flying"

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The "one or two bad apples " were not mast manufacturers but you decided not to buy it from the Kiwis. Have good holydays in North Dakota B)

 

It gets worse TC. Everyone says that the 45s are great boats and OR are buying 3 of them. WTF? laugh.gif

 

"30 knts. tack so quickly and the flow stays attached so its challenging for the skipper to get across before the hull is flying"

 

Poor SWS. The "best boat in the world" made in NZ by Kiwis and he won't buy anything made in NZ. Just as well he can't afford a 45 or he'd be going ape s***. I hope he has not read the FP today about PR BS and RC and his mates.

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The "one or two bad apples " were not mast manufacturers but you decided not to buy it from the Kiwis. Have good holydays in North Dakota B)

 

It gets worse TC. Everyone says that the 45s are great boats and OR are buying 3 of them. WTF? laugh.gif

 

LE may end up buying more than 3 AC45 if things don't change, he may finish with a fleet !

As for SW he won't buy his inflatable in NZ, too many "bad apples",but in North Dakota.:D

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The "one or two bad apples " were not mast manufacturers but you decided not to buy it from the Kiwis. Have good holydays in North Dakota B)

 

It gets worse TC. Everyone says that the 45s are great boats and OR are buying 3 of them. WTF? laugh.gif

 

LE may end up buying more than 3 AC45 if things don't change, he may finish with a fleet !

As for SW he won't buy his inflatable in NZ, too many "bad apples",but in North Dakota.:D

It'll be like the WWF circus where the whole fleet turns up in some out-of-the-way location, fireworks and all, race, then onto the next stop....biggrin.gif

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In case this one is not posted yet?

 

 

Its pretty amazing how big a deal the AC is becoming. Politicians, big money, socialites, sailing types comingling at events. At a recent event I gained a little insight on the visit above. Apparently there is talk of NZ becoming the 51st state. Some question as to whether or not an interim step would be required. Pretty cool if it happens and interesting implications on AC.

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In case this one is not posted yet?

 

 

Its pretty amazing how big a deal the AC is becoming. Politicians, big money, socialites, sailing types comingling at events. At a recent event I gained a little insight on the visit above. Apparently there is talk of NZ becoming the 51st state. Some question as to whether or not an interim step would be required. Pretty cool if it happens and interesting implications on AC.

 

In your dreams!

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In case this one is not posted yet?

 

Its pretty amazing how big a deal the AC is becoming. Politicians, big money, socialites, sailing types comingling at events. At a recent event I gained a little insight on the visit above. Apparently there is talk of NZ becoming the 51st state. Some question as to whether or not an interim step would be required. Pretty cool if it happens and interesting implications on AC.

In your dreams!

 

Not my dream , and I'm sure bigger reasons behind it than the AC. Does have some interesting implications though for AC. If it happens before the cup, would ETNZ be in the defender series?

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Not my dream , and I'm sure bigger reasons behind it than the AC. Does have some interesting implications though for AC. If it happens before the cup, would ETNZ be in the defender series?

Umm - Isn't it April 2nd now? :)

 

I seriously doubt the ambassador's visit had anything to do with that! Lol

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that's some expensive shit right there, that animation. sexy.

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that's some expensive shit right there, that animation. sexy.

Besides talented he is also a moth sailor and a nice guy. Has posted here a couple times, pm me for his email if you want it.

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Not my dream , and I'm sure bigger reasons behind it than the AC. Does have some interesting implications though for AC. If it happens before the cup, would ETNZ be in the defender series?

Umm - Isn't it April 2nd now? :)

 

I seriously doubt the ambassador's visit had anything to do with that! Lol

 

Well it had been a long day on the original post. I had thought about staying up another 21 mins to avoid that confusion..but I was tired.

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If nothing else that extension looks lovely on the plan.

 

Yep looks good all right but some have said that according to pit talk the extension is useless. It would be nice to hear something a little more considered and factual about it's performance, fit and controllability.