West Michigan Thread

[explenture 0]

On 6/22/2020 at 10:18 PM, MR.CLEAN said:

Any owner who does this race without requiring an ironclad COVID waiver agreement from all crew is playing with some fucking fire, that's for sure.  Causality is very hard to prove in disease cases unless you catch it somewhere certain and you don't have any contact with others.  Sort of like when you sail a social distancing Mac.  If someone catches it on the Mac and dies without a waiver 4 weeks later, you better hope an LLC or trust owns your boat and that all the paperwork is in order.

Waiver shouldn't be an expensive piece of paper to draft.  Probably 2-3 hours depending on ownership structure of the boat. Call your lawyer. 

DISCLAIMER: This is not advice for any specific person or situation, i am not your lawyer, relying on anything i write is insanely stupid, etc...

 

 

Ah the Trump rally model

[MR.CLEAN 3,839]

37 minutes ago, explenture said:

Ah the Trump rally model

Just the cover your ass model.  I already have several acquaintances who have quietly settled COVID claims for thousands.  No defendant wants to see a case hit a jury and pay to defend against the resulting piranha blood frenzy.

[dcbsheb 17]

On 6/22/2020 at 9:18 PM, MR.CLEAN said:

 This is not advice; relying on anything i write is insanely stupid.

 

 

Wait...what happened to your pink PRESS flag?

[MR.CLEAN 3,839]

4 minutes ago, dcbsheb said:

Wait...what happened to your pink PRESS flag?

I was told the guy who stole it from me used it as a condom when you made his little soldier suit up before the battle of your ass

[dcbsheb 17]

On 6/30/2020 at 1:07 PM, MR.CLEAN said:

I was told the guy who stole it from me used it as a condom when you made his little soldier suit up before the battle of your ass

         

 

[Fisher 38]

GD I love this place. Forth day up north and I’ve totally forgotten the 1100 mile road trip to get here.

Just drove past Portage Lake After getting cold snacks and it was an absolute sparkling 15 knot out of the the WSW. Not a sail up but spotted a nicely cared for J-30 swing at anchor. There was a nice Ericsson 38 in Lake Arcadia for a couple days that had the anchorage to themselves. Looked like fun. Water temp Is 81 degrees on the surface. Kids are having a blast swimming and fishing.  Perch are making a comeback:)

The Arthur M. Anderson passed abeam about sunset last night. Pretty close inside so that was cool. So the Fitz became a bedtime story...

The big lake has been an absolute kitten for about 14 days. Even enough breeze to fill a sail or two. So long suckers, I am off to swim:)

[dcbsheb 17]

Bump.  Clipper Cup is 2 weeks out.  Who's in?  44 boats registered as of this morning.  We will be bringing the J92 Runaway from Sheboygan along with Peerless (if they can get their forward bulkhead repaired in time).

[Monkey 1,329]

Just to bump it, I’m in too!

[Geff 195]

One of the best funnest races there is.

[1sailor 44]

This does sound fun, in a year where so much racing has been missed.

Usual Suspects is IN.

[Monkey 1,329]

Just a head’s up to all the Michigan folks coming over, we just got pretty much the same mandatory mask law as you guys, but at least the bars are still open!

[Morgan Crewed 86]

[Governor] Whitmer issued an executive order Wednesday night that reimposes restrictions starting at 12:01 a.m. Friday for Regions 6 and 8 — which include the Upper Peninsula and 17 counties in northern Michigan — that cap indoor gatherings at 10 people and close indoor bars where alcohol accounts for 70% of sales. Outdoor gatherings in Regions 6 and 8 remain limited to 250 people.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/07/29/whitmer-reopen-detroit-casinos-reimpose-limits-northern-michigan/5539534002/ 

 

[Monkey 1,329]

On 7/30/2020 at 2:03 PM, 1sailor said:

This does sound fun, in a year where so much racing has been missed.

Usual Suspects is IN.

Welcome to the party!  If I bump into you anywhere in Port Washington, I’ll buy you a drink. (We’re still allowed to do that in Wisconsin!)

[TripleZeros 49]

I don’t know who needs to hear this but the forecast for the GRSC Commodores Cup is light and shifty as of now.  Don’t change it from its original course, we don’t need a repeat of last year.

-000

[OffShore Sam 0]

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On 8/12/2020 at 9:38 PM, TripleZeros said:

I don’t know who needs to hear this but the forecast for the GRSC Commodores Cup is light and shifty as of now.  Don’t change it from its original course, we don’t need a repeat of last year.

-000

 

On 8/12/2020 at 9:38 PM, TripleZeros said:

I don’t know who needs to hear this but the forecast for the GRSC Commodores Cup is light and shifty as of now.  Don’t change it from its original course, we don’t need a repeat of last year.

-000

We heard you...

 

[lartaunt 46]

With football season cancelled,  any interest in a late Sept bouy race event in Muskegon? 

 

[Monkey 1,329]

30 minutes ago, lartaunt said:

With football season cancelled,  any interest in a late Sept bouy race event in Muskegon? 

 

We just created a new one on the other side of the pond for the same reason. You guys could join in. It’s Labor Day weekend. You guys could have a Friday night race from Muskegon to Port Washington (Clipper Cup rematch). Join up with our race from Port to Sheboygan Saturday. Then a race from Sheboygan to Muskegon Sunday morning. I’d happily run a start for you guys out of Sheboygan. You could treat it as a three race regatta, or go old school Volvo style and use combined times for all three legs. You’d have Monday off to relax. 

[Geff 195]

20 hours ago, Monkey said:

We just created a new one on the other side of the pond for the same reason. You guys could join in. It’s Labor Day weekend. You guys could have a Friday night race from Muskegon to Port Washington (Clipper Cup rematch). Join up with our race from Port to Sheboygan Saturday. Then a race from Sheboygan to Muskegon Sunday morning. I’d happily run a start for you guys out of Sheboygan. You could treat it as a three race regatta, or go old school Volvo style and use combined times for all three legs. You’d have Monday off to relax. 

That's a great idea!

[lartaunt 46]

Bump!    Boats are flying out of the water this week with dreams of a better year next year.   Muskegon YC finished racing on Oct 14.  For the summer, we started racing on May 20, (two weeks later than normal) We started scoring races for our summer series on June 24, (6 weeks later than normal)  Ran our races until Oct 14 (one week later than normal).  Completed 16 races for our summer series, averaged 21 boats per race (Only 1 less than in 2019).

For most of the season we did not hand out awards after racing but started doing that again in late August in a hands free fashion.  MYC was open but limited capacity so mostly stayed outside.     WE had no case of Covid reported at MYC to date (knock on wood), mask required inside and recommended anytime you couldn't keep 6 feet apart. In short we modified things but overall had a fun solid season. This was a nice piece of relative normalcy in a crazy Covid Summer with only a offshore races run.  We sailed the Lake Mi Clipper Cup and had a great if a bit subdued time due to the Covid restrictions in both States. 

Still trying to figure out when and or how we can do an awards event but certainly it is pushed off from the normal November date into next year.  Already making plans for next year and the return of the Queen's Cup finish to Muskegon.  Tents, Bands, Parties, hopefully will be on tap by June of 2021!

[TripleZeros 49]

Any new boats coming to West Michigan for next year? I would figure the summer season will be back to normal in 2021...

[Ebert 1]

Quiet Storm - Farr 30 will be back in Holland/Lake Mac this year.  Picked it up last winter and while we were able to race a bit in Holland, we are hoping to be more active this coming season around west Michigan.  

 

[1sailor 44]

2 hours ago, Ebert said:

Quiet Storm - Farr 30 will be back in Holland/Lake Mac this year.  Picked it up last winter and while we were able to race a bit in Holland, we are hoping to be more active this coming season around west Michigan.  

 

^^^ great news, you guys were looking great by the end of the season.   nice to see another friends and kids program, where is the boat going to be this summer ?    

(eric from usual suspects)

[Ebert 1]

6 minutes ago, 1sailor said:

^^^ great news, you guys were looking great by the end of the season.   nice to see another friends and kids program, where is the boat going to be this summer ?    

(eric from usual suspects)

Thanks - we had fun following you guys around the course!  We are going to be at Eldean's again (Dock E).  Hoping to make it down to the club more often after the races as well.

[GABA 10]

On 12/13/2020 at 7:13 AM, TripleZeros said:

Any new boats coming to West Michigan for next year? I would figure the summer season will be back to normal in 2021...

Another way to ask the question is to ask which boats are for sale.  Often a pretty good clue to who may be getting something new....

[@last 26]

Interesting choice of fishing boat (Ranger 33-sailboat) for a cold winters day but to each his own.  Wishing you all a good 2021 with lots of time on the water.

[GABA 10]

On 12/26/2020 at 2:01 PM, GABA said:

Another way to ask the question is to ask which boats are for sale.  Often a pretty good clue to who may be getting something new....

Solution appears to be heading to the other side of the state as Pterodactyl USA 43

[Shorthanded 730]

7 hours ago, GABA said:

Solution appears to be heading to the other side of the state as Pterodactyl USA 43

I heard Monday evening that Solution was leaving Holland. Bummer. It was fun having three 111’s racing on Wednesday nights.

[TripleZeros 49]

A -3 for a "high performance boat" this year on my PHRF cert (Soto 40).  Nothing different in sails or anything else. It literally says that on my cert; "-6 DCHP adj. for asymmetric spinnakers and for high performance boats."  2020 just said "-3 for boats that carry an asymmetric spinnaker"...  Is it just -3 for all high performance or is a TP 52 a bigger ding? Is a J111 a high performance boat? Melges 32?

-000

[Capt. Cluster 2]

21 minutes ago, TripleZeros said:

A -3 for a "high performance boat" this year on my PHRF cert (Soto 40).  Nothing different in sails or anything else. It literally says that on my cert; "-6 DCHP adj. for asymmetric spinnakers and for high performance boats."  2020 just said "-3 for boats that carry an asymmetric spinnaker"...  Is it just -3 for all high performance or is a TP 52 a bigger ding? Is a J111 a high performance boat? Melges 32?

-000

Does this mean it will actually come out of the barn this year?  Does PHRF change when a boat sits on the hard for a year?

[TripleZeros 49]

51 minutes ago, Capt. Cluster said:

Does this mean it will actually come out of the barn this year?  Does PHRF change when a boat sits on the hard for a year?

We did 1 race last year.  You may not have seen us, we were really far out front.

[lartaunt 46]

On 2/1/2021 at 3:26 PM, TripleZeros said:

A -3 for a "high performance boat" this year on my PHRF cert (Soto 40).  Nothing different in sails or anything else. It literally says that on my cert; "-6 DCHP adj. for asymmetric spinnakers and for high performance boats."  2020 just said "-3 for boats that carry an asymmetric spinnaker"...  Is it just -3 for all high performance or is a TP 52 a bigger ding? Is a J111 a high performance boat? Melges 32?

-000

Short answer is LMPHRF has/is making some adjustments to how they do handicap adjustments.   The new  modern boat designs have forced this.  Previously X adjustment got Y penalty.  Now they are looking at the type of boat, sail plan,  SA/D.  i.e. putting a oversize spin on a 40ft 30000 lb led mine will have a different impact on performance than putting an oversize spin on a 40 ft 9500 lb sled.  A large roach main will have a bigger impact on a boat who's SA is primarily in the main vs  a boat (J35 for instance) that has more SA in the genoa than the main. These also tend to have more impact over longer races so that is why the Distance HC is getting hit harder. So more formula based with multiple variables compared to the old way.   No expert in this but was in on the discussion.  The Chief handicapper can give you more specifics I am sure.