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SWMBO and I visited the project as we were driving off to her walking group's hiking trip this morning, she also found her to be looking completely different and much nicer now that there is paint.

We have dropped the idea of the white mast top, we decided it varies away from the clean and simple look that we seek for the project.

 

So, what is the deal with the white mast top?

Kimb and SWMBO don't like it.

We had considered doing the top couple feet of the mast in white like they did in the early 20th century, but have dropped the idea because it violated the Clean and Simple rule.

You mean those white painted tips on varnished wooden spars, which were usually the maximum sail haul marks?

 

Good decision, Kimb.

I believe the trad white tips to spars was to protect the end grain, and paint was a lot more efficient and effective than varnish - especially on the mast where mast hoops were rubbing it off all the time. Hence the white only beginning above the throat halyard.

 

Bands on spars to show you the limits of hoist and adjustment were black (at least on alloy spars). IIRC, rules call for a contrasting colour.

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Black bamboo!

....from the carboniferous period.

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I agree with you Kim (and Bob). Wrong boat for fancy spar paintwork. My boat's mast and boom are the same color - or at least they were 28 years ago when they were new. It's way down the wish list to have them repainted, but someday...

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Yeah. I had someone tell me that her masts had to be white on the top because it "Was The Law."

 

I didn't get that, so I wondered, aloud, here, why people would do that.

 

IIIRC the idea for painting the extremities of all the spars white was so they would show up at night and in fog. Last chance to avoid collisions.

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I heard on the internet that the white spar tips are actually communication devices that beam signals in the space that google relays to alien motherships paked behind the moon. I for one welcome our new overlords.

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I heard on the internet that the white spar tips are actually communication devices that beam signals in the space that google relays to alien motherships paked behind the moon. I for one welcome our new overlords.

Maybe Bob and I had better rethink this issue....................nah, the mast stays one color all the way to the top...........

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I heard on the internet that the white spar tips are actually communication devices that beam signals in the space that google relays to alien motherships paked behind the moon. I for one welcome our new overlords.

Maybe Bob and I had better rethink this issue....................nah, the mast stays clean colored all the way to the top...........

 

What color are the mast stays going to be then?

 

<running for cover, just just concealment> :)

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I heard on the internet that the white spar tips are actually communication devices that beam signals in the space that google relays to alien motherships paked behind the moon. I for one welcome our new overlords.

 

Maybe Bob and I had better rethink this issue....................nah, the mast stays clean colored all the way to the top...........

What color are the mast stays going to be then?

 

<running for cover, just just concealment> :)

Stealth

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I heard on the internet that the white spar tips are actually communication devices that beam signals in the space that google relays to alien motherships paked behind the moon. I for one welcome our new overlords.

 

Some say that effect is actually due to the crumpled up aluminum foil inside the mast .

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I'm thinking we go with a Taliban mast theme.

 

 

Maybe paint the top section of the mast black and then put a severed head on the masthead with the eyes to light up like running lights.

 

I watched that FOX interview with "Bashar Al Assad" and I'm in a kind of beheading mood.

 

I should probably turn the TV off.

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You know, you may just have something there. Halloween is coming up after all

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Assad? pfft! "Vlad the Impaler" was on the History Channel today, good thing Bob missed it.

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Assad? pfft! "Vlad the Impaler" was on the History Channel today, good thing Bob missed it.

 

Oh, man. My little sphincter ooched itself into a black hole when I saw that.

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Yes please. We need some pictures to get us back on track. I think even a picture of sanding dust will do!

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Years ago when Carl Eichenlaub was out of town, the boys at the yard, led by Al Crawford, decided that Cadenza needed a paint job. The result was the wild (at the time) multi colored stripes and huge name on the topsides. When Carl saw the result he kinda shook his head, hitched up his jeans and mumbled a few words about respect, and went back to work......

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Kim is out of town........hiking in North Cascades.

Wow, pretty good wifi up there! ;)

Good connection at lodge, very spotty on the hikes.

 

Home now and I have some pictures coming later after we unpack...........of course we stopped by the project on the way home!

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The scale on the mast is .5"=12".

 

Golly, I sketch something up, I mean it is a really nice acad sketch, and then it's sent off to be fabrictaed?

Scary.

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The scale on the mast is .5"=12".

 

Golly, I sketch something up, I mean it is a really nice acad sketch, and then it's sent off to be fabrictaed?

Scary.

Well, it was mocked up first to make sure we liked it in the flesh, so it has been vetted fairly well.......

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Boom has been painted to match the mast (that's a good idea.......)

Reminds me of a boat-launching story - we had just painted the spars and were working on the boat, mast was on a rack somewhere and the boom went down below decks (for safety) then the lift-point in the boat failed and we dropped it in the parking lot and it slid halfway into the water - only a dock cleat that punched a hole through the hull saved it from sliding free and sinking at the work dock.

 

We got a lift-frame, lashed it to the deck and re-lifted the boat, put it on a spare dolly and went to the bar for triple whiskeys. "Good thing we put the boom inside to keep it safe..." Groan

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uh oh ............

 

I think Oz must have fallen off the globe or the interwebz are broken or - or .........

 

this thread has gone more than 24 hours without a single post - ARGHH - I NEED MY BOAT PORN

 

ND went quiet with Catari, now Kim is going quiet with Sliver

 

This Sliver thread contains 1.72 billion different topics - and no one has anything to contribute, really!

 

I know Bob has Violet in town, and the bicycle world championships are on - so that is Bob & Kim out, some sail boat race on in SFO, guess I will have to stop being a passenger in this thread and actually post more often.

 

ML

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Merrill:

Violet is back in Ballard and I am working away on my new custom 42'er for my pal Dave.

I did break to watch the AC though. What fun.

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Merrill:

Violet is back in Ballard and I am working away on my new custom 42'er for my pal Dave.

I did break to watch the AC though. What fun.

Good to hear your commission is moving along well, Bob.

 

Can't agree with you the AC is fun to watch though. I'm crying in my cornflakes these days.

 

Still, either way, it can't last for more than three more races. Just as well. Cant's stand salty cornflakes!

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Merrill, she's cocooning right now....(taken last Friday actually)

 

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cocooning? Not acceptable, that means she will emerge beautiful and ready to fly away, but next spring! I can not wait that long for updates!!!

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Sailby:

HTFU! It ain't over yet.

 

The really weird thing is I love watching the races but they literally put me to sleep. I start dozing off about half way through the race. I'm not kidding. I'm not sure if it is the droning commentary or the sounds of the cat working but there is something going on that triggers a sleep mechnanim in me. I even made coffee yesterday after the race s I could go back to work and I am usually a two morning cupper only.

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Bob, perhaps you can find the NZ feed somewhere? Maybe those commentators will keep you up. Or play one of your beautiful guitars while you watch!

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OK, OK!

 

Deck still very green, no nonskid work for another couple days. (Paints looks better in person!)

 

Crew working on the boot top today.

 

Picked up the hydraulic backstay adjuster this morning, waiting for the boom vang, Hall is back ordered a few weeks.....

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Jordan messing around with the spreader lengths......and tiller fitting......



might have another picture of something I am hoping to buy in the next hour or so.................love that Craigslist!!

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I'm thinking we go with a Taliban mast theme.

 

 

Maybe paint the top section of the mast black and then put a severed head on the masthead with the eyes to light up like running lights.

 

I watched that FOX interview with "Bashar Al Assad" and I'm in a kind of beheading mood.

 

I should probably turn the TV off.

Anytime I accidentally catch Fox anything, I get in a beheading mood. Rupert Murdoch's head would be ideal.

 

Australia's pox on the world.

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That's the truth. At least that nightmare mining woman stays home and doesn't pollute the rest of the world like Murdoch.

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Purrty. Still working on fairing in the extra layers on the bow I see.

Actually the bow is fair, just needs bottom paint...........

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The stripe is blue, honest!

 

It just looks black in the pictures.

 

Wait just a cotton pickin' minute here. Is that an open can of black Krylon spray paint sitting on the scaffolding? Hmmmm.

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Visited sailmaker this morning, we are looking at Hydranet as a sail cloth. Looks interesting, anyone use it?

 

What do we think of it for the first set of sails (main and jib)?

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The stripe is blue, honest!

It just looks black in the pictures.

Wait just a cotton pickin' minute here. Is that an open can of black Krylon spray paint sitting on the scaffolding? Hmmmm.

That is the stuff they spray to judge the fairing work.

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For some strange reason that bootstripe looks perfect.Yes.For some strange reason that bootstripe looks perfect.Yes.

Some guy from up north came down and fiddled with it, apparently he knew what he was doing.

 

I wish the color showed up better, it looks spectacular in the flesh. The deck looks great too, but they are polishing it up a bit before they shoot the nonskid.

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For some strange reason that bootstripe looks perfect.Yes.For some strange reason that bootstripe looks perfect.Yes.

Some guy from up north came down and fiddled with it, apparently he knew what he was doing.

 

I wish the color showed up better, it looks spectacular in the flesh. The deck looks great too, but they are polishing it up a bit before they shoot the nonskid.

Geeze, after the amount of work that went into that stripe it better be perfect! Good thing it is.

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Holy cow, what a fair hull. I was looking at one of these shots thinking, oh there's an unfair spot where you can see a distortion in the reflection of the scaffolding. Turns out the scaffolding is bent.

 

Nice job by everyone to get that hull so fair. Everything reflects in that hull without distortion.

 

 

Tape pulled

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First off there are 2 'flavours' of Hydranet (or at least there were about 5 years ago when I got a nice genoa from Quantum). There is a warp oriented cloth that has lots of Spectra used for radial construction and a fill oriented cloth that is used for crosscut sails. The 2nd has such little amount of spectra that it is a 'why bother' cloth. i.e. don't use it.

 

I love my Hydranet genoa. It's about 525 sq ft on a 40' catamaran and it's the primary roller furling headsail. It's very heavily loaded when the wind gets up because the boat just goes faster instead of heeling. 9 oz material. I promised the sailmaker not to sail it in more than 25 knots apparent upwind, but I have to confess I've exceeded that a few times. We have about 11,000 miles on it, mostly crossing the Pacific. Looks very good - minimal shape change which I would not have found with a Dacron version.

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Anytime I accidentally catch Fox anything, I get in a beheading mood. Rupert Murdoch's head would be ideal.

 

 

 

Australia's pox on the world.

WHAT WHAT, PA is down the hall. Dont ask me to do a list of USA pox.... BLAH BLAH

 

I think I'll drive to a Daydream

 

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The reflections in the hull are looking awsome. :)

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Hobs:

If you go back in this thread you wil find an in depth discussionon the bootstripe.

Basically, it needed some fine tuning in the ends to achieve the look we wanted. In the end ( no pun intended) we got what we wanted.

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If you look really closely you might see the through hulls that we were trying to hide in the boot top......apparently we were successful.

 

They are there in all three pictures.

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She's looking good Kim and Bob! Hope to make it over there in a few weeks, but right now need to catch up on some projects.

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Where's the laser level?...

 

...ducking...

 

We don't need no stinking laser level; WE GOT BOB!

 

I want to lick it.

Pervert!

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What was wrong with the bootstripe?

 

Due to technology, it was too straight. Bob fixed it so it looked right.

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Where's the laser level?...

 

...ducking...

 

We don't need no stinking laser level; WE GOT BOB!

 

>I want to lick it.

Pervert!

 

 

oh, like you don't want to.

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Where's the laser level?...

 

...ducking...

 

We don't need no stinking laser level; WE GOT BOB!

 

>I want to li

ck it.

Pervert!

 

oh, like you don't want to.

 

 

Are you kidding?, I kiss her every once in a while. Might kiss her everyday once I get her home. Will hug her mast once it gets installed.

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Where's the laser level?...

 

...ducking...

 

We don't need no stinking laser level; WE GOT BOB!

 

>>I want to li

ck it.lockquote>

Pervert!

 

oh, like you don't want to.

 

Are you kidding?, I kiss her every once in a while. Might kiss her everyday once I get her home. Will hug her mast once it gets installed.

 

 

Uhh does SWMBO know about this, or are we just keeping it on the down low amongst us?

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KimB,

 

How the hell can you be so patient??!!??

 

He has no choice. :)

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SWMBO is tolerant of my mistress, fortunately SWMBO likes to sail and she really likes light air sailing because it is so relaxing. Hence the reasons we made the Francis Lee a good light air boat.

 

I am patient as I can be because I am heavily involved in the project so it is simply phase one. Once she is in the water we start phase two. (That and the fact I am 65 years old so have calmed down a bit. I was not patient in my youth.)

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