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Moanatoa. John Cleall, MORF. Holland 30. Navy Cutlass Race, 1983. IOR Section 6, rated 21.8.

 

 

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Beautiful boat. Hard to believe that it was home built in West System.

 

Robin

 

Absolutely gorgeous boat, care to elaborate any more info on it?

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Moanatoa. John Cleall, MORF. Holland 30. Navy Cutlass Race, 1983. IOR Section 6, rated 21.8.

 

 

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Beautiful boat. Hard to believe that it was home built in West System.

 

Robin

 

John was in the school of Orthodontics at U of I. He lived in a historic area near the university and built the boat in his back yard.

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Daybreak. Robert N. Chatain, Jr. CYC. 1983 Navy Cutlass Race, IOR Section 3, rated 29.8.

 

Daybreak also raced in the Chicago to Mackinac Race that year.

 

 

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Larry

Again, thanks, for bringing it back to the first page. This is far superior to all of the "beating dead horses" threads.

 

Let's keep this one on the first page for good!

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Hollow sails in "hollow" wind ?

 

 

 

 

Daybreak. Robert N. Chatain, Jr. CYC. 1983 Navy Cutlass Race, IOR Section 3, rated 29.8.

 

Daybreak also raced in the Chicago to Mackinac Race that year.

 

 

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Albatross. B & R Metcalf, BPYC. ERC 33. MHS Section 3, rated 601.2.

 

This is from the 1983 Navy Cutlass Race, but I retrieved her data from 1983 Chi-Mac scratch sheet.

 

 

 

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Albatross. B & R Metcalf, BPYC. ERC 33. MHS Section 3, rated 601.2.

 

This is from the 1983 Navy Cutlass Race, but I retrieved her data from 1983 Chi-Mac scratch sheet.

 

 

 

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Actually Albatross was an Ericson 36, not a 33. The 33 was a frac rig.

 

Thanks for a GREAT THREAD!!

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Thanks, Sol. :)

You are correct. My typo. Scratch sheet said ERC 36.

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Larry

Again, thanks, for bringing it back to the first page. This is far superior to all of the "beating dead horses" threads.

 

Let's keep this one on the first page for good!

 

+1

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Fiddlesticks. J. H "Woody' Woodward III, Col YC. T-10. 1983. Navy Cutlass Race, Chicago to Great Lakes, MHS Section 2, rated 598.9.

 

Fiddlesticks also made the Mac race in 1983 and other years.

 

 

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Just something about the lines of Genevieve here in San Diego that make her outstanding

 

cheers Dal

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Devastator. Paul Akers, CYC. NM 45. St. Pete-Ft. Lauderdale Race, 1983 SORC, IOR Class C, rated 35.5.

 

In the 1983 Chicago to Mackinac Race, Devastator raced in IOR Section 1, rated IOR 35.4.

 

 

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Here are the "then and now" photos for the 1971 C&C 43 Arieto (then Phantom, Esta Es, & Calypso):

 

1971 Arieto, maybe at SORC 1971 or 1972:

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1980's as Phantom on the great lakes (later as Esta Es):

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2009 as Calypso on Puget Sound:

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Here are the "then and now" photos for the 1971 C&C 43 Arieto (then Phantom, Esta Es, & Calypso):

 

1980's as Phantom on the great lakes (later as Esta Es):

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2009 as Calypso on Puget Sound:

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Suspiciously similar spinny. Some color diffs but . . . Somebody got their money out of that kite!

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Moanatoa. John Cleall, MORF. Holland 30. Navy Cutlass Race, 1983. IOR Section 6, rated 21.8.

 

 

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Beautiful boat. Hard to believe that it was home built in West System.

 

Robin

 

Absolutely gorgeous boat, care to elaborate any more info on it?

 

Very nice ... but how many reefing points do you need?

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Contention 33 built in England..1976 3/4 tonner. Pretty fast upwind. Downwind..thank GOD for the huge rudder!

 

Former Patriot of SW Michigan. Became American Blue in Harbor Springs. I bought it in 1989 and changed the name to the first Spar Wars. I think it is in South Haven now.

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Contention 33 built in England..1976 3/4 tonner. Pretty fast upwind. Downwind..thank GOD for the huge rudder!

 

Former Patriot of SW Michigan. Became American Blue in Harbor Springs. I bought it in the early 80's and changed to the first Spar Wars. I think it is in South Haven now.

 

 

Forgot: Doug Peterson design

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Moanatoa. John Cleall, MORF. Holland 30. Navy Cutlass Race, 1983. IOR Section 6, rated 21.8.

 

 

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Beautiful boat. Hard to believe that it was home built in West System.

 

Robin

 

Absolutely gorgeous boat, care to elaborate any more info on it?

 

Very nice ... but how many reefing points do you need?

 

 

Chicago to Mackinac rules at the time were essentially category 2 requirements and provided that you either carried a "storm trisail" with specified area or your mainsail had to be capable of being reduced through reefing by 60% or more of its originaly area. Many Many small boats of the time (and a number of bigger boats) chose three reefs to get there. Two reefs would not do it unless there was a huge gap in area from one to three.

 

Robin

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Moanatoa. John Cleall, MORF. Holland 30. Navy Cutlass Race, 1983. IOR Section 6, rated 21.8.

 

 

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Impulse. Segil, et al. CYC. Swan 39. MHS Section 3, rated 100.0.

 

 

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Yup - very old school but 3 reef slabs was normal fair in the olden days.

 

 

Yes, three reefs was standard, & none of this using a different main for inshore stuff.

 

I did a couple of Hobarts on boats with a fourth reef in the main on the theory that you were more likely to drop in a fourth reef than bother getting the tri-sail up early enough!

 

Great thread for us old blokes and a history lesson for the kids. Don't ever let it die!

 

Have a good one.

TUBBY

 

 

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Sorry Larry, just want to add some shots of John Thomson in honor of the ALS Walk going on tomorrow. This was shot at Manhasset Bay Fall Series on the Farr 40 Infinity October 27, 2008. I'll dig up some more. Thanks for the idea, Herme.

 

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Anyone with a cool quarter million for a restored (and upgraded) Cold Molded Peterson 41?

 

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That boat is freaking gorgeous. Wish I had that kind of scratch to give it a good home. :wub:

 

I've got a lot of history on that boat. I raced on it with the third owner. Affectionately called the "Cedar Speeder". A lot of fun. Pretty boat - ugly crew! ;) It was used as a liveaboard in the Gulf Islands for awhile when one of the owners built a house in the Gulf Islands. It was reno'd by the son/family of the original owner in '80. I see it's got a carbon rig now and the third owner & their crew painted the mast "guard rail yellow" in keeping with the original theme and colour.

 

Sorry for the hi-jack Larry put while we are talking about cold mold and Jesperson builds:

 

http://www.jespersenboats.com/html/distantdrummer_imagepage.htm

 

Peterson 37 "Distant Drummer". A work of art really and I sailed against her in my Ganbare days. A lot of history with her too but I'll shut up now.

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Not a hijack at all, Maxx.

 

Special thanks for the great photos of Infinity, House Salad.

And thanks to all who care about John and his battle with ALS.

Good luck to all who participate or support his family's desire to further ALS research and possible cure.

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Sliv. Justin D. Goldman, CYC. Swan 43. 1983 Chicago to Mackinac Race, MHS Section 1, rated578.7.

 

 

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Bravura. I. Loube, Frers 46. 1984 SORC, St. Pete to Ft. Lauderdale Race. Class C, rated IOR 35.4.

 

 

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Crew List, per Nick G...

 

Irv Loube - owner

Ron Bartowski -BN

Dee Smith - Tachtician

Chris Corlett - Helm

Bob Billingham - Trim

"Lighting-Fast" Craig Nutter (Brit)

Eric Baumhoff - mast/Bow

Mike Smith (Brit)- Bow

Garret Loube - Pit

Nick Gibbens - Trim

 

Missing a couple I am sure.

 

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Always nice to see Old Blue! She is out sailing often on San Francisco Bay these days. It is fun to see here being used unlike a lot of old IOR boats. Thanks for sharing Larry. Again.

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Magistri. Sail No. 84007. Peter Farlinger, RCYC, Toronto. C&C 39. 1983 SORC, Miami to Nassau Race. Class E, rated IOR 30.6.

 

Per Mike Hunt, Magistri was a C&C custom 39 owned by Peter Farlinger.

It raced in the 83 Admirals Cup and did quite well. It was sold to a Swedish buyer sometime after the regatta.

I'm pretty sure this Magistri was on the 83 AC team with the 41 Silver Shadow and the C&C 45 Amazing Grace.

 

Jeff Carver said... this Magistri, a custom 39-footer, was designed and built for Peter Farlinger, a former member of the syndicate that had purchased and renamed Marauder.

Our Magistri never earned the reputation in Canada that she deserved -- mainly because Farlinger sailed her exclusively offshore and only for a short period before

selling her to Swedish interests. But she campaigned with distinction, winning the Channel Race as part of the Canadian team at the 1983 Admiral's Cup.

An excellent, if smallish, ocean racer that reaffirmed there was no more to C&C's design touch than a wildcard like Evergreen.

 

 

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Sometimes it can be good to gather information from a few posts into one place.

 

I am learning more about image editing. I applied mild sharpening to this image, wanted to share the results, which I like.

 

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Magistri. Sail No. 84007. Peter Farlinger, RCYC, Toronto. C&C 39. 1983 SORC, Miami to Nassau Race. Class E, rated IOR 30.6.

 

Per Mike Hunt, Magistri was a C&C custom 39 owned by Peter Farlinger.

It raced in the 83 Admirals Cup and did quite well. It was sold to a Swedish buyer sometime after the regatta.

I'm pretty sure this Magistri was on the 83 AC team with the 41 Silver Shadow and the C&C 45 Amazing Grace.

 

Jeff Carver said... this Magistri, a custom 39-footer, was designed and built for Peter Farlinger, a former member of the syndicate that had purchased and renamed Marauder.

Our Magistri never earned the reputation in Canada that she deserved -- mainly because Farlinger sailed her exclusively offshore and only for a short period before

selling her to Swedish interests. But she campaigned with distinction, winning the Channel Race as part of the Canadian team at the 1983 Admiral's Cup.

An excellent, if smallish, ocean racer that reaffirmed there was no more to C&C's design touch than a wildcard like Evergreen.

 

 

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Sometimes it can be good to gather information from a few posts into one place.

 

I am learning more about image editing. I applied mild sharpening to this image, wanted to share the results, which I like.

 

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While in Swedish ownership she was owned by Marcus Wallenberg, famous financial/bank tycoon (in Sweden at least). I think her name was changed to "Indispensable Too"

 

I wonder were she is today???

 

//FOP

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Victory. Victor Cribb, Homestead FL. Frers 48. St. Petersburg to Ft. Lauderdale Race, 1983 SORC, Class B, rated IOR 36.1.

 

 

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Intuition. P. Malloy, Sag Harbor, NY. PET 42, 1984 SORC, St. Petersburg to Ft. Lauderdale Race. Class D, rated IOR 32.7.

 

 

 

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Nice roll.....

 

I hope the guy trimming the blooper got fired. That looks bad++

 

--Matt

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Nice roll.....

 

I hope the guy trimming the blooper got fired. That looks bad++

 

--Matt

 

Trim is only part of the problem, halyard needs eased too

Oh wait, that's one of those times where "basic sail trim" includes working the halyard

:lol:

 

FB- Doug

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Really, only the guys on that boat and maybe God know what occurred just before this shot was taken. Given the rolly polly situation that was occurring and the full on halyard I guess that they were recovering from a collapsed blooper that had (and of course would) have put the bloop in the drink maybe 30 seconds earlier. And in many ways, the demise of the blooper was because it wasn't faster, and in fact as has be noted previously, was often slower what with all the dicking around needed.

 

And OMG look at that hole in the water!

 

TOG

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Nice roll.....

 

I hope the guy trimming the blooper got fired. That looks bad++

 

--Matt

 

+1 easing the halyard about 10 feet will make the steering cables and everyone's tighty whities last a lot longer

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Really, only the guys on that boat and maybe God know what occurred just before this shot was taken. Given the rolly polly situation that was occurring and the full on halyard I guess that they were recovering from a collapsed blooper that had (and of course would) have put the bloop in the drink maybe 30 seconds earlier. And in many ways, the demise of the blooper was because it wasn't faster, and in fact as has be noted previously, was often slower what with all the dicking around needed.

 

And OMG look at that hole in the water!

 

TOG

 

Into which a lot of money was filled!

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Really, only the guys on that boat and maybe God know what occurred just before this shot was taken. Given the rolly polly situation that was occurring and the full on halyard I guess that they were recovering from a collapsed blooper that had (and of course would) have put the bloop in the drink maybe 30 seconds earlier. And in many ways, the demise of the blooper was because it wasn't faster, and in fact as has be noted previously, was often slower what with all the dicking around needed.

 

And OMG look at that hole in the water!

 

TOG

 

Into which a lot of money was filled!

Yep! IOR - Invest or Retire

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Intuition. P. Malloy, Sag Harbor, NY. PET 42, 1984 SORC, St. Petersburg to Ft. Lauderdale Race. Class D, rated IOR 32.7.

 

 

 

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Cute Peterson, cute shot Larry ! (As usual)

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Hi Larry,

 

Do you think you could find some nice shoots of Williwaw, the 45 ft alu boat that was disqualified or at least had rating problems in 198x SORC.

 

Another boat I admire is the Aires, some 43-45 ft Ron Holland, she has been shown in the first part of this awesome thread, motoring to start with only main up.

 

I you could dig in the archive about these boats it wold be great smile.gif

 

//FOP

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Always nice to see Old Blue! She is out sailing often on San Francisco Bay these days. It is fun to see here being used unlike a lot of old IOR boats. Thanks for sharing Larry. Again.

 

I still remember the day you took me for a quick sail on Bravura in San Diego Nick!

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It's a great pic, and while some remarks are perhaps a bit underhanded, I give these guys a lot of credit. Sailing a Peterson 42 in those conditions with 5 guys on deck... nowadays you wouldn't see a spinnaker (much less a blooper) on a boat like that without more like 15 crew.

 

And I think TOG is exactly right, they probably yanked the blooper halyard tight about 20 seconds before this pic was taken to lift it out of the previous wave... fun fun fun...

Pardon the top post

FB- Doug

 

 

 

Really, only the guys on that boat and maybe God know what occurred just before this shot was taken. Given the rolly polly situation that was occurring and the full on halyard I guess that they were recovering from a collapsed blooper that had (and of course would) have put the bloop in the drink maybe 30 seconds earlier. And in many ways, the demise of the blooper was because it wasn't faster, and in fact as has be noted previously, was often slower what with all the dicking around needed.

 

And OMG look at that hole in the water!

 

TOG

 

Into which a lot of money was filled!

Yep! IOR - Invest or Retire

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Happy Father's Day to all dads, their women and their kids.

Enjoy the holiday.

 

Here's Blitzen. O'Brien/Cronin, CYC. G&S 30. IOR Section 6, rated 22.0.

I remember Blitzen as a Col YC boat also.

 

Looks like a Section 5 code flag to me. Anybody have an explanation?

Perhaps Blitzen had an LMYA rating as well as IOR?

 

 

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Windancer, ex-Intrepid.

 

 

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Always nice to see Old Blue! She is out sailing often on San Francisco Bay these days. It is fun to see here being used unlike a lot of old IOR boats. Thanks for sharing Larry. Again.

 

I remember the day you almost cut your dick off with the main hatch!

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Why would you ever change Intrepids name?

 

Not this shit again. It always said Intrepid on the transom. That was the third in a series of boats the owner has campaigned with the same name for a lot of years. The boat still saiiled during a time when old 12s were rotting yard queens.

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Intuition. P. Malloy, Sag Harbor, NY. PET 42, 1984 SORC, St. Petersburg to Ft. Lauderdale Race. Class D, rated IOR 32.7.

 

 

 

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Great picture

 

All that power and so little speed. It was fun racing to be sure, but pretty much decided with getting to the weather mark in the order of who bought the latest genoa and to the leeward mark in the order of who didn't spin out.

 

The boats and rigs were so wrong in so many ways, including that IOR "chine" midships, just below the waterline.

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Great picture

 

All that power and so little speed. It was fun racing to be sure, but pretty much decided with getting to the weather mark in the order of who bought the latest genoa and to the leeward mark in the order of who didn't spin out.

 

The boats and rigs were so wrong in so many ways, including that IOR "chine" midships, just below the waterline.

 

Right and accurate Asymptote !

But you can't forget all nostalgy of those fabulous days for a generation of sailors :)

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Intuition. P. Malloy, Sag Harbor, NY. PET 42, 1984 SORC, St. Petersburg to Ft. Lauderdale Race. Class D, rated IOR 32.7.

 

 

 

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Great picture

 

All that power and so little speed. It was fun racing to be sure, but pretty much decided with getting to the weather mark in the order of who bought the latest genoa and to the leeward mark in the order of who didn't spin out.

 

The boats and rigs were so wrong in so many ways, including that IOR "chine" midships, just below the waterline.

 

I'm still stuck in those days with my last two boats. Besides, when have we ever had so many boats racing as back then? Nowadays we are lucky to get 8 or 9 in our class and they are all very different, from a super light 26' to a old Peterson 2 ton. Then we had 20 boats pretty close to each other, great racing, even though it might have been a bit slower and took a lot more work to go slower.

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Thanks, blisster and everybody.

 

Here's the color version of this recently scanned image.

I believe the image may have been displayed earlier, but I am not looking back since the scan is new.

I showed you the monochrome version a few days ago.

 

From the time a friend told me he had served as cabin boy on Intrepid's tender

and was often aboard when sailing, I have liked this yacht.

 

I am glad to have taken a number of nice photos of her under sail.

I have no photos of her at a dock anywhere though.

Maybe you do and could share them here, or under sail.

 

 

Windancer, ex-Intrepid. John Nedeau, CYC. 12-meter, 63' LOA. IOR section 1. 1983 Chicago to Mackinac Race.

 

 

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Thanks, blisster and everybody.

 

Here's the color version of this recently scanned image.

I believe the image may have been displayed earlier, but I am not looking back since the scan is new.

I showed you the monochrome version a few days ago.

 

From the time a friend told me he had served as cabin boy on Intrepid's tender

and was often aboard when sailing, I have liked this yacht.

 

I am glad to have taken a number of nice photos of her under sail.

I have no photos of her at a dock anywhere though.

Maybe you do and could share them here, or under sail.

 

 

Windancer, ex-Intrepid. John Nedeau, CYC. 12-meter, 63' LOA. IOR section 1. 1983 Chicago to Mackinac Race.

 

 

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I actually snapped a few shots of her in Newport on Saturday. I'll dredge those up and post 'em. Nobody calls her anything but Intrepid these days.

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Thanks, blisster and everybody.

 

Here's the color version of this recently scanned image.

I believe the image may have been displayed earlier, but I am not looking back since the scan is new.

I showed you the monochrome version a few days ago.

 

From the time a friend told me he had served as cabin boy on Intrepid's tender

and was often aboard when sailing, I have liked this yacht.

 

I am glad to have taken a number of nice photos of her under sail.

I have no photos of her at a dock anywhere though.

Maybe you do and could share them here, or under sail.

 

 

Windancer, ex-Intrepid. John Nedeau, CYC. 12-meter, 63' LOA. IOR section 1. 1983 Chicago to Mackinac Race.

 

 

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I actually snapped a few shots of her in Newport on Saturday. I'll dredge those up and post 'em. Nobody calls her anything but Intrepid these days.

 

Here in Chicago they tried hard to caller Winddancer, but after awhile they gave up and even put the name Intrepid back on her....

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Intuition, in color.

 

 

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Photo taken yesterday, but all headsails are original with IOR signitures etc. She's a 1975 Stoner 25 QT. Light air machine. I know, "skirt".

 

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Sorcery. J.D. Wood, Newberry Park, CA. Mull 83. 1984 SORC, Class A, rated 70.0.

 

 

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Great Post love all the old pictures

 

Here windward passage in Tampa Bay 1981-82?? during SORC

 

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That would be 1981. John Rumsey, Bunky Helfrich , and Carl Craaford were part of the crew. I grew up working at Palmetto Bay Marina that Rumsey and Bunky owned along with my Gary Wheatley. Carl had come over from Aust., to work on WP, I was able to sail on the boat from HHI to Ft Lauderdale... was in 10th grade, my Pop did not want me to miss 4 weeks of school to race...

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Sorcery. J.D. Wood, Newberry Park, CA. Mull 83. 1984 SORC, Class A, rated 70.0.

 

 

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The early Days of Kevlar. It had to start somewhere.

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Great stuff, curious do you have any MORC pics?

MORC killed more great small boat designs than IOR did.

 

Measurement rules suck. God bless the box rule.

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Photo taken yesterday, but all headsails are original with IOR signitures etc. She's a 1975 Stoner 25 QT. Light air machine. I know, "skirt".

 

No shit

Back in those days, every boat was a Stoner.

 

At least, that's what I think I remember...

 

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one of my old favorites

 

 

It took me and Billy (and McFuck) about 3 days, two hot air guns and a scissors lift to remove those Tasmania stickers Beanhead put on the boat.

 

BTW, great thread, Larry. Thanks for all your work posting your old shots.

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Does anyone have any pics of the maxi Drumbeat, not to be confused with simon le bons' drum, in her prime (i know she's up in qld now as spank me).

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Does anyone have any pics of the maxi Drumbeat, not to be confused with simon le bons' drum, in her prime (i know she's up in qld now as spank me).

 

U mean this one from Ed. Dubois ?

 

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Does anyone have any pics of the maxi Drumbeat, not to be confused with simon le bons' drum, in her prime (i know she's up in qld now as spank me).

 

U mean this one from Ed. Dubois ?

 

 

no, lol ior maxi won a sydney to hobart.

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Does anyone have any pics of the maxi Drumbeat, not to be confused with simon le bons' drum, in her prime (i know she's up in qld now as spank me).

 

U mean this one from Ed. Dubois ?

 

 

no, lol ior maxi won a sydney to hobart.

 

More seriously, this one ?post-50842-051551500 1343304170_thumb.jpg

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Does anyone have any pics of the maxi Drumbeat, not to be confused with simon le bons' drum, in her prime (i know she's up in qld now as spank me).

 

U mean this one from Ed. Dubois ?

 

 

no, lol ior maxi won a sydney to hobart.

 

More seriously, this one ?post-50842-051551500 1343304170_thumb.jpg

cool thanks have you got anymore

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