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cant recall if I have read 'The fatal shore' by Robert Hughes, on reflection I dont think I have i read it, or if I did it was long long ago. On my bookshelf I have "sea of dangers" and "The tyranny of distance", both by Geoffrey Blainey, both pretty dry books. I will borrow "The fatal shore" from the local library if you recommend. By the way,, I dont do drugs (just marijuana twice in 1996,, thats it - very dull life). It seems I get more aggravation here in 2 days than I have in 15 years on woodenboat.com forum. Anyway,, hope it will pass.... I guess back to the real world for me,,, SA in not quite as refined as wbf,,..maybe its a bit too aggravational here for me..

 

n peter evans

(whom may possibly be a quite nice person!)

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Look where the hinge-line is, and the - I dunno what you call it - the overhang and the bulk of the surface area. If you swing those rutters down (and they aren't built to slide like a dagger board) the hinge line will be astern of most of the area -- and the rutters will be massively overbalanced won't they? Or has my herbal intake in 1977 (I didn't inhale, m'lud!) scrambled my perception?

 

Maybe HR has designed some devilish contraption to reverse them 180degrees when stowed but that sort of subtlety really isn't in his character.

Aren't those rutters on back to front?

I think we're onto something here.

 

 

Why do you think they are back to front ?

 

 

 

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I wondered if the rutters were supposed to hinge down vertically or drag behind horizontally. I guess I will never know. :huh:

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I just saw this on national news:

This year is on track to be the driest year ever for San Francisco and much of California. Normally SF gets about 20.75" of precipitation and this year they have had just over 4". They usually get 4" in December alone!

No rain means no storms and no wind. The weather gods have smiled on FH.

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I wondered if the rutters were supposed to hinge down vertically or drag behind horizontally. I guess I will never know. :huh:

 

they are "air rudders". duh!

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I sometimes sail a lift-keel 28footer with a swing-up rutter. The tiller is incredibly heavy if the rutter isn't completely down - even 5 degrees off full down you'd think you were steering a barge. If those barn-doors trailed behind horizontally you'd need backhoe jacks to move them. I know he's not a boat designer but they'd be the weirdest rutters ever seen trailing behind in the turbulent wake, 15inches deep. Still, that would only matter if the thing ever moved.

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I wondered if the rutters were supposed to hinge down vertically or drag behind horizontally. I guess I will never know. :huh:

 

they are "air rudders". duh!

Now I see the genius of it. Because HR is a pilot he would use his aeronautical prowess to incorporate those design features into a boat.

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Way back in this thread HR said he was a pilot in a news interview. I can't remember if it was print or video. A FAA search was done and the only James Lane the came up as a pilot was also certified many really big commercial airliners. Was this our beloved HR? He also claimed to be a meteorologist but again no records were found. These are a few of the reasons why he gets such a hard time.

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PeterOz, come back! It's American rough banter - ozmates should be up to that, it isn't very subtle but it's well meaning and fun!

 

Nah, subtlety is not one of the pioneer culture's virtues.

 

Funny thing, many people in other countries like to make fun of Americans (and no wonder) but they don't know diddley themselves. It's a fact that the then-colonies in America were also sent shiploads of convicts and not only that, further shiploads of people who were actually worse off "indentured servants." This was a system whereby white people could be treated worse and paid less than either convicts or slaves.

 

So there, PO you see we actually have more in common than you thought.

 

FB- Doug

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I just saw this on national news:

This year is on track to be the driest year ever for San Francisco and much of California. Normally SF gets about 20.75" of precipitation and this year they have had just over 4". They usually get 4" in December alone!

No rain means no storms and no wind. The weather gods have smiled on FH.

 

Been here my whole life this year so far is the driest on record - however we have had similar winters that turned into some of the wettest on record by the time April came around. 1997 was fairly dry and no drama till Newyears night which pretty much flooded the entire state from Fresno North in a 30hr period. FH just gets more time to soften up and soak up that good RB muddy water before things start to get interesting weather wise.

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Sheesh! He's a pilot? Is this guy a distant cousin perhaps?

 

They seem to be out of the same mould.

 

Soul brothers. Judging by the crew needed to load that cabin on the truck, that thing was built from mild steel. Maybe he should use CDX and epoxy next time.

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PeterOz, come back! It's American rough banter - ozmates should be up to that, it isn't very subtle but it's well meaning and fun!

 

Nah, subtlety is not one of the pioneer culture's virtues.

 

Funny thing, many people in other countries like to make fun of Americans (and no wonder) but they don't know diddley themselves. It's a fact that the then-colonies in America were also sent shiploads of convicts and not only that, further shiploads of people who were actually worse off "indentured servants." This was a system whereby white people could be treated worse and paid less than either convicts or slaves.

 

So there, PO you see we actually have more in common than you thought.

 

FB- Doug

 

The biggest problem (besides slavery) with the ancestry of the States is that so many of them were fanatical religious refugees. Witness the religious right - you're STILL paying the price for that.

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PeterOz, come back! It's American rough banter - ozmates should be up to that, it isn't very subtle but it's well meaning and fun!

 

Nah, subtlety is not one of the pioneer culture's virtues.

 

Funny thing, many people in other countries like to make fun of Americans (and no wonder) but they don't know diddley themselves. It's a fact that the then-colonies in America were also sent shiploads of convicts and not only that, further shiploads of people who were actually worse off "indentured servants." This was a system whereby white people could be treated worse and paid less than either convicts or slaves.

 

So there, PO you see we actually have more in common than you thought.

 

FB- Doug

 

The biggest problem (besides slavery) with the ancestry of the States is that so many of them were fanatical religious refugees. Witness the religious right - you're STILL paying the price for that.

 

Most of the religious right in the US is home grown. The peoples who came here fleeing religious persecution have tended to see their kids go mainstream.

 

Funny thing about that... the US acquired "freedom of religion" thru the expedient of having no church with a clear enough majority to suppress the others. But the effort continues to this day and while we have this freedom, intolerance is generally seen as a sign of devoutness. Most other countries I've visited, religious freedom has come later (or not at all, officially at least) but people seem to have lost the lust to shed their neighbors blood for going to the wrong church.

 

Sailing the wrong boat, now that's a whole 'nother fight...

 

FB- Doug

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Sheesh! He's a pilot? Is this guy a distant cousin perhaps?

 

They seem to be out of the same mould.

 

Soul brothers. Judging by the crew needed to load that cabin on the truck, that thing was built from mild steel. Maybe he should use CDX and epoxy next time.

That POS reminds me of the release of Obamacare. LOL !

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Sheesh! He's a pilot? Is this guy a distant cousin perhaps?

 

They seem to be out of the same mould.

 

Soul brothers. Judging by the crew needed to load that cabin on the truck, that thing was built from mild steel. Maybe he should use CDX and epoxy next time.

That POS reminds me of the release of Obamacare. LOL !

Reminds me more of when John McCain picked Sara Palin as his running mate.

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PeterOz, come back! It's American rough banter - ozmates should be up to that, it isn't very subtlep but it's well meaning and fun!

Funny thing, many people in other countries like to make fun of Americans (and no wonder) but they don't know diddley themselves. It's a fact that the then-colonies in America were also sent shiploads of convicts and not only that, further shiploads of people who were actually worse off "indentured servants." This was a system whereby white people could be treated worse and paid less than either convicts or slaves.

 

So there, PO you see we actually have more in common than you thought.

 

FB- Doug

The biggest problem (besides slavery) with the ancestry of the States is that so many of them were fanatical religious refugees. Witness the religious right - you're STILL paying the price for that.

 

Funny thing about that... the US acquired "freedom of vessel choice" thru the expedient of having no vessel choice with a clear enough majority to suppress the others. But the effort continues to this day and while we have this freedom, intolerance for MAC26's, BendyToy's, Haunters, Don'tJeauneau's, Flying Hawaiian, Weird Stowe and others Is generally seen as a sign of devoutness.

FB- Doug

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PeterOz, come back! It's American rough banter - ozmates should be up to that, it isn't very subtlep but it's well meaning and fun!

Funny thing, many people in other countries like to make fun of Americans (and no wonder) but they don't know diddley themselves. It's a fact that the then-colonies in America were also sent shiploads of convicts and not only that, further shiploads of people who were actually worse off "indentured servants." This was a system whereby white people could be treated worse and paid less than either convicts or slaves.

 

So there, PO you see we actually have more in common than you thought.

 

FB- Doug

The biggest problem (besides slavery) with the ancestry of the States is that so many of them were fanatical religious refugees. Witness the religious right - you're STILL paying the price for that.

 

Funny thing about that... the US acquired "freedom of vessel choice" thru the expedient of having no vessel choice with a clear enough majority to suppress the others. But the effort continues to this day and while we have this freedom, intolerance for MAC26's, BendyToy's, Haunters, Don'tJeauneau's, Flying Hawaiian, Weird Stowe and others Is generally seen as a sign of devoutness.

FB- Doug

Fixed it FB

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so, another weak cold front coming thru today and it's gonna be windy for a while starting tonight...

 

-jd

Finally some good data!

 

And 200 posts til 10K! :lol:

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There needs

 

 

so, another weak cold front coming thru today and it's gonna be windy for a while starting tonight...

 

-jd

Finally some good data!

 

And 200 posts til 10K! :lol:

There needs a HR visit, something like Santa, to celebrate. Anybody have spare milk and cookies? Maybe a finger to nibble on?

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Over - Under 10K

 

So the Question/Bet is by the time this thread reaches 10K

 

will we be talking about the Demise and how it happened OR still about what will happen

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how it's about to happen. This thing is the cockroach of the seas.

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Well i got nothing. Just feel like i am the last not to post on this thread. So there is my 5 seconds of fame.

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There needs

 

 

so, another weak cold front coming thru today and it's gonna be windy for a while starting tonight...

 

-jd

Finally some good data!

 

And 200 posts til 10K! :lol:

There needs a HR visit, something like Santa, to celebrate. Anybody have spare milk and cookies? Maybe a finger to nibble on?

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Over - Under 10K

 

So the Question/Bet is by the time this thread reaches 10K

 

will we be talking about the Demise and how it happened OR still about what will happen

Well we reached 9600 posts on November 30. so that was 18 days ago. I would say we have 18 more to reach to 10,000. Of course that figure is meaningless if you only have 4 fingers like the Simpsons.

 

And that 9600th post was posted by........Wait for it.............

 

DA-WOODY! :P

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Shall we have a huge push of meaningless and worthless content to artificially inflate the posting count?

 

Oh, wait a sec...

 

That's the soul of this whole thread...

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Over - Under 10K

 

So the Question/Bet is by the time this thread reaches 10K

 

will we be talking about the Demise and how it happened OR still about what will happen

Well we reached 9600 posts on November 30. so that was 18 days ago. I would say we have 18 more to reach to 10,000. Of course that figure is meaningless if you only have 4 fingers like the Simpsons.

 

And that 9600th post was posted by........Wait for it.............

 

DA-WOODY! :P

and earlier today my previous post was #9800, now it's 9798. Two steps forward and one step back. Would be pretty funny to watch this thread contract until it was just posts by HR and jr.

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Wasn't HR suppose to have another court appearance on Dec 16th? Who has the watch?

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and earlier today my previous post was #9800, now it's 9798. Two steps forward and one step back. Would be pretty funny to watch this thread contract until it was just posts by HR and jr.

 

We did the deleting post thing way back with the Mighetto thread. We all regret it now. Preserving the lunacy for future generations is important.

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how it's about to happen. This thing is the cockroach of the seas.

 

After the nuclear conflagration, only the cockroaches will remain. Evolution will start anew...

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Wasn't HR suppose to have another court appearance on Dec 16th? Who has the watch?

Another today

LANE, JAMES JOHN 12/19/13 09:00 AM D CR186721A COUNSEL AND PLEA

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Wasn't HR suppose to have another court appearance on Dec 16th? Who has the watch?

Another today

LANE, JAMES JOHN 12/19/13 09:00 AM D CR186721A COUNSEL AND PLEA

 

Ugh! Poor fellow. Let's hope his Christmas cheer isn't snuffed out by Holiday in Hoosegow!

 

Right about this time I feel quite a lot of sympathy for the cantankerous crack-pot.

Since launch, he's been knocked down to the floor pretty hard. Sure, it's all been of his own making, but taking the dream this far and then just watching it all crumble away. I imagine his step has lost a lot of its swagger. Gotta be tough.

 

God bless you, James Lane.

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Wind predictions seem to have failed to appear or are running behind schedule. Yesterday evening local weather folks were figuring the low pressure system rolling through would generate some pretty gusty high winds I had my doubts given it looked like it was going south. So far it appears FH has dodged another pretty windy low passing just south of the Bay.

 

Kinda glad given the neighbor is getting ready to top 30ft off the 150ft red wood that sits at the corner of our yards. Typical low pressure wind direction should send it into the creek if it did come down but in really goofy lows I've seen the wind direction changed up enough to put the damn thing in my yard and across the back of the house. 6yrs ago a similar redwood across the creek lost its top ended up ontop of a neighbor driving down the street behind us pretty bad stuff.

 

FH hasn't seen the bad winter winds just yet but they have had a taste of what could blow through.

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Wasn't HR suppose to have another court appearance on Dec 16th? Who has the watch?

Another today

LANE, JAMES JOHN 12/19/13 09:00 AM D CR186721A COUNSEL AND PLEA

 

Ugh! Poor fellow. Let's hope his Christmas cheer isn't snuffed out by Holiday in Hoosegow!

 

Right about this time I feel quite a lot of sympathy for the cantankerous crack-pot.

Since launch, he's been knocked down to the floor pretty hard. Sure, it's all been of his own making, but taking the dream this far and then just watching it all crumble away. I imagine his step has lost a lot of its swagger. Gotta be tough.

 

God bless you, James Lane.

 

what could wrong ?

 

I wounder about poor o'll MOM ???

 

would be nice for us to send "HER" something to make HER feel Good for the Holidays

 

Conditions Must be something HR can't Swindle, Embezzle, Hawk, Borrow or Eat

 

But where is She ???

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Since this thread is used to post random and completely off topic spinoffs as well as tracking the FH I figure this is a good spot to post this.

 

 

I am totally digging my new Hobie Dog Avatar! What do you guys think? :D

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Since this thread is used to post random and completely off topic spinoffs as well as tracking the FH I figure this is a good spot to post this.

 

 

I am totally digging my new Hobie Dog Avatar! What do you guys think? :D

Under the rules posted by (less than) Clean, you need to by an add...

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I like my Capricorn Avatar do I need to change it or buy an add?

Probably.

Buy two or more just to be safe...

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pled out or bled out ?

 

What they need is a summary justice dispenser in the back of every police car. A hole in the window with a justice of the peace sitting in the back seat operating the finger lopper. And of course you get it back neatly giftwrapped in case you want to appeal the decision.

 

Put your credit card in the slot, and insert your finger stub into the cigarette lighter for an optional cauterization of the wound.

 

No more lengthy court delays. Instead of saying I pled the fifth, you can say I only bled a fifth (of a quart).

Summary justice dispensed and you can be on your way...

 

Guaranteed it will end unauthorised finger munching immediately.

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So whats the current status of the FH? Is the train wreck still in progress?

 

I see nothing but rumors for the last few pages, and I'm afraid to go back any farther...

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So whats the current status of the FH? Is the train wreck still in progress?

 

I see nothing but rumors for the last few pages, and I'm afraid to go back any farther...

At this point I would not call it a train wreck but just a HUGE miscalculation by Hot Rod because what he has into the FH he could have bought a boat and already been in HI but that has all been well documented already. I feel bad for Hot Rod!

 

The bottom line is the FH is going to hang out at anker for a while. Even if had for free the amount of money needed to even make her a decent protected waters boat would still exceed her value when done, so I don't see HR selling her unless he can find another HR type guy to buy her. It also appears that HR is out of money and can not fund the project himself. So provided HR maintains her anker lines I don't see her having a spectacular break up at anker like some are predicting. She will be like any other wood boat that is left on her own and not maintained. She will rot from bottom up or top down or probably both and sink in the mud where she is right now. Will make a good reef for fish. Our White Perch would really enjoy her, not sure what you guys have as far as fish out there.

 

So what does this all mean? The most exciting thing in the near future for this thread and the FH is who will have the 10,000 post...

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i'm writing an app now that'll ping me when it hits 9990...

 

That's what we're reduced to, hoping we hit 10,000 posts? I'm still holding out for a sinking...

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4 seconds at best

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too bad HR didn't find this link before he got started

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too bad HR didn't find this link before he got started

 

Who knows what that toad wart of a pilot house would look like if "Master Craftsman Lane" applied his "studied 10,000 boats" aesthetic to it?

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I plan to delete this post when the time is right...

Quoted :D:lol:

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damn, ive been watching the thread since i read the whole thing a couple of months ago, thought we had some new info.....again.....oh well im in for the 10k post watch now.

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i'm writing an app now that'll ping me when it hits 9990...

 

That's what we're reduced to, hoping we hit 10,000 posts?

You are correct!

 

#9837 - benchmark for tracking the deletes

Good idea - #9838

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OT Tech help Please

 

 

My neighbor lady keeps asking me for help and my wife is complaining about all the time I am spending over there. I know you engineers out there can help with this challenge.

 

 

Here's a photo of what her set-up looks like...

 





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there should be a rule that anyone who posts over 23k of drivel, should have to post pictures of a ho,ho,ho every second post. Bring back the cult of KA and Its Friday.

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I don't think anyone predicted that thing would still be floating on Christmas Day.

 

Merry Christmas, Hot Rod!

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why the useless posting all of a sudden ???

.

 

...that's ironic! :mellow:

I was thinking the same thing...

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that made no fucking seance at all :-0

 

the Fun is about to come for those who've socked up supplies of Drivel :-)

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Merry Christmas HR and everybody! I sailed Richardson's Bay today and spied FH lit with Christmas lights. There are 3 strings (red blue, and green) spread across the roofline of the patio, BLINKING red -- green -- blue.

 

An awesome display of power!

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Merry Christmas HR and everybody! I sailed Richardson's Bay today and spied FH lit with Christmas lights. There are 3 strings (red blue, and green) spread across the roofline of the patio, BLINKING red -- green -- blue.

 

An awesome display of power!

 

 

Thanks for the report.

 

Glad there is some holiday celebration going on aboard.

 

You forgot to mention whether the porch roof was sagging more yet or not. Did you happen to spy the Harlisaki? Did you sail close enough to hear lil murray pounding on the hull or Guy moaning? ;)

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Merry Christmas HR and everybody! I sailed Richardson's Bay today and spied FH lit with Christmas lights. There are 3 strings (red blue, and green) spread across the roofline of the patio, BLINKING red -- green -- blue.

 

An awesome display of power!

 

News about Hotrod and his boat thingy, in this thread?

 

Is that allowed?

Thread foul! Intentional injection of relevant material. 5 post penalty!

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Red Green & Blue - the national colors of Southwestern Somalia?? Is HR now officially a Pirate? (and don't anyone tell me you don't have a Southwestern Somalia flag in your stash of courtesy flags!! ).

 

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JFC, if you guys are going to waste 130 more posts trying to get to 10,000 at least post some Friday-type material for the amusement of the lurkers....

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JFC, if you guys are going to waste 130 more posts trying to get to 10,000 at least post some Friday-type material for the amusement of the lurkers....

Ummmm whatever

 

 

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sometimes it's hard to understand what people request around these parts :blink:

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I saw the FH yesterday - still floating

but the suprising thing is the large number of anchor outs surounding him

 

like about a hundred, he is not alone, that's for sure

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OT Tech help Please

 

 

My neighbor lady keeps asking me for help and my wife is complaining about all the time I am spending over there. I know you engineers out there can help with this challenge.

 

 

Here's a photo of what her set-up looks like...

 

 

 

 

 

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No worries, I'll get right on that... :lol:

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cat logic, pertinent really as most here can't see a resemblance to a catamaran here either

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can it make the 2014 party?

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why the useless posting all of a sudden ???

Not sure.

 

Got me on that one.

 

 

Best ignore this one.

 

 

 

I didn't buy an Ad,so it may get deleted soon

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^^^ Buy an Ad ^^^

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