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I'm the owner of a killer photo of Flat Chat. It's on my kitchen wall in a poster sized print. 

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On 4/17/2018 at 12:26 PM, plywoodboy said:

This beautiful "Truck" was gliding around Bramble Bay yesterday, we had a bit of a chat with the owner of 12 years who has had issues recovering from injury for a while, but is absolutely loving getting her out sailing. The short rig with a decent roach seems to suit the relatively small float size. Funny thing is that the floats look pretty big up close from my F28.

Main hull has had flared sections added tastefully, and the cabin top looks pretty good in an IMOCA/Euro way.

Peter H

Just curious, how'd the old girl go compared to the F-boat? Probably not in her element in those conditions. Cheers.

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On 4/28/2018 at 9:17 PM, ALL@SEA said:

Just curious, how'd the old girl go compared to the F-boat? Probably not in her element in those conditions. Cheers.

We were 2 up and the 28R loves light stuff so we slowed down a little to stay abreast, but a bit of chop would be different I think.

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On 4/28/2018 at 11:32 AM, PIL007 said:

Does anyone know anyone that can put me in touch with the owner of Flat Chat...... rumor has it now at south island NZ...?

I like what you're thinking, you going to sail it across the ditch like those guys did !?!? Or just ship it :) 

Taeping was a bargain, extended w/racks. 

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11 hours ago, SCANAS said:

I like what you're thinking, you going to sail it across the ditch like those guys did !?!? Or just ship it :) 

Taeping was a bargain, extended w/racks. 

I'm trying not to think about any transport until I get close to a deal... Ideally buying here locally would be good but we will see what pops up...

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5 hours ago, PIL007 said:

I'm trying not to think about any transport until I get close to a deal... Ideally buying here locally would be good but we will see what pops up...

Flat Chat would have to be pretty cheap looks pretty flogged out in those charter videos. 

There was a formula 40 cat for sale recently, I think it's Rushour's. 

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3 hours ago, SCANAS said:

Flat Chat would have to be pretty cheap looks pretty flogged out in those charter videos. 

There was a formula 40 cat for sale recently, I think it's Rushour's. 

Paging Rushour...........  I'd be interested to see that.

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1 hour ago, PIL007 said:

Paging Rushour...........  I'd be interested to see that.

It was packed in a container & on gumtree I think. From memory it had a broken mast. 

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Yep sold it to a guy in Hervey Bay, cheap too!!!

PM me for his contact details and he might sell it, I think he was going to cruise it, but one sail may put an end to that.

Mast is broken but that is a surprisingly easy fix, I have done 2 now with no problems. The last one I tested by resting a 7 ton boat on it for a few hours!!!!

The boat is the old TUKI

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1 hour ago, Mid said:

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I think I remember a write up in multihull world that was about some guys bringing room with a view back from Asia to Australia. Monster of a boat in the flesh. 

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Been somewhat modified since her best days. Now lives around Airlie Beach. 

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Room was built in the mid 90s after my cat, Top Gun. Room was a more cruisy version. Same original builder and owner. 

 

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1 hour ago, Indian Chief said:

Been somewhat modified since her best days. Now lives around Airlie Beach. 

She was never as pretty as Top Gun, but those mods are awful... Turner wasback on the right path with Warrior Princess. 

 

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Looks like would make a good day sailor if you cut all that crap off.

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5 hours ago, PIL007 said:

What's with the 3 motors hanging off the ass...?

It's so you can do sick burnouts down on the main drag at Brighton Le Sands....

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7 hours ago, PIL007 said:

What's with the 3 motors hanging off the ass...?

Big EV project with auxiliary auxiliary needed.

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On 5/1/2018 at 7:44 AM, PIL007 said:

I'm trying not to think about any transport until I get close to a deal... Ideally buying here locally would be good but we will see what pops up...

It doesn't look as though she was ever as optimised as some of the previously mentioned Graingers, but she's not in NZ... https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-catamarans/grainger-38-panther/212056 

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9 hours ago, ALL@SEA said:

It doesn't look as though she was ever as optimised as some of the previously mentioned Graingers, but she's not in NZ... https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-catamarans/grainger-38-panther/212056 

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Thanks...I spoke to the owner last week and maybe we can come to an agreement.... 

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Look what just popped up, seen by an Airlie Beach local whilst travelling in Fiji. She was shipped from NZ to Fiji and now working as a day charter boat out of Vunda Point. 

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On 5/14/2018 at 9:52 AM, Indian Chief said:

Look what just popped up, seen by an Airlie Beach local whilst travelling in Fiji. She was shipped from NZ to Fiji and now working as a day charter boat out of Vunda Point. 

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Bugger.... would look better on my mooring

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It's official

The older fast multi in Aust. called Cynophobe / Panther Grainger has a new home on my mooring in Gunnamatta Bay Cronulla..

I'll have a go and make some basic changes to make it mine. 

It's been a long drawn out Stressful search and I've called on just about everyone in the game from OZ to NZOz and NZ for advice and research.

Thanks to all...

BTW....Special thanks to Browny at  Nautilus Marine insurance for coming through with the goods after Pantaenius Boat Insurance fucked me at the post. They agreed to insure me as they were the previous owners insurance and gave me the price. I rang them when the boat money was paid 2 days later to be told they "Weren't Insuring this type of vessel any more"  Poor form 

I'd post pics but they are to big for SA and I'm no computer wiz so........

On 5/8/2018 at 10:11 PM, ALL@SEA said:

It doesn't look as though she was ever as optimised as some of the previously mentioned Graingers, but she's not in NZ... https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-catamarans/grainger-38-panther/212056 

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3 hours ago, PIL66 said:

It's official

The older fast multi in Aust. called Cynophobe / Panther Grainger has a new home on my mooring in Gunnamatta Bay Cronulla..

I'll have a go and make some basic changes to make it mine. 

It's been a long drawn out Stressful search and I've called on just about everyone in the game from OZ to NZOz and NZ for advice and research.

Thanks to all...

BTW....Special thanks to Browny at  Nautilus Marine insurance for coming through with the goods after Pantaenius Boat Insurance fucked me at the post. They agreed to insure me as they were the previous owners insurance and gave me the price. I rang them when the boat money was paid 2 days later to be told they "Weren't Insuring this type of vessel any more"  Poor form 

I'd post pics but they are to big for SA and I'm no computer wiz so........

 

Have you got a license for that weapon sir?

 

Congrats!

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On 6/10/2018 at 4:14 AM, Bill Gibbs said:

Congratulations!

Can you believe the broker never called me back on Afterburner...? I tried twice but nothing...Probably just as well

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9 hours ago, socalrider said:

So it’s a NZ build not AU, but anyone know about the Tennant designed trimaran “Wild Thing” in the classifieds?

http://sailinganarchy.com/classifieds/show-ad/?id=3716

looks beautiful and light - how would it compare to a more modern Corsair/Farrier?

Link here to the history

https://www.boatdesign.net/threads/historical-multihulls.42019/page-32 

 I looked into the one for sale in Cairns Australia which now appears to be sold (listed for $55,000) It had some extensions to straighten up the bows. 

I also sailed on "Taranui" in Auckland back in the 90's .....Very fast in it's day but with the alloy beams it was super bendy .   

Picks for your enjoyment

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Wildthing had the aso boards turned into symmetrical boards a while ago to make it easier to sail. It has just been sold to a Russian who intends to use it as a live aboard cruiser. This guy will makes the news for all the wrong reasons  

 

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Hopefully it works out better than 'all the wrong reasons.' She's a good-looking boat, especially in bright finish. Tennant's website detailed a little about the family: https://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/index.php?page=wild-thing

The exchange rate is certainly making some of the native NZ boats attractive! I'm looking at Tennant cats here stateside, where they are less thick on the ground ... I should be chartering Flat Chat and shopping a more affordable market! Problem is, I'd probably just want to stay there!

Randii

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2 hours ago, randii said:

Hopefully it works out better than 'all the wrong reasons.' She's a good-looking boat, especially in bright finish. Tennant's website detailed a little about the family: https://www.tennantdesign.co.nz/index.php?page=wild-thing

The exchange rate is certainly making some of the native NZ boats attractive! I'm looking at Tennant cats here stateside, where they are less thick on the ground ... I should be chartering Flat Chat and shopping a more affordable market! Problem is, I'd probably just want to stay there!

Randii

Here's a couple I very seriously looked at and rate... The tennant has some issues but if I was the boat building type, I'd own it. I made an offer that was accepted but as said, some issues when surveyed. 

http://www.cityofsailsmarine.co.nz/listing/high-performance-tennant-designed-racingcruising-catamaran/

http://www.cityofsailsmarine.co.nz/listing/cox-45-code-ood-st/

I have a ton of pics and vids of both if needed

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I'm looking at Paxfish's Wildfire in about a month, then looking at a classic GBE and a Turissimo 9... I do love the lines of these boats, but my experience is in beach cats, J-boats, and just fiberglass in general. Wood composite and home-building is much less common around here.

Randii

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On 6/7/2018 at 5:29 AM, PIL66 said:

It's official

The older fast multi in Aust. called Cynophobe / Panther Grainger has a new home on my mooring in Gunnamatta Bay Cronulla..

I'll have a go and make some basic changes to make it mine. 

It's been a long drawn out Stressful search and I've called on just about everyone in the game from OZ to NZOz and NZ for advice and research.

Thanks to all...

BTW....Special thanks to Browny at  Nautilus Marine insurance for coming through with the goods after Pantaenius Boat Insurance fucked me at the post. They agreed to insure me as they were the previous owners insurance and gave me the price. I rang them when the boat money was paid 2 days later to be told they "Weren't Insuring this type of vessel any more"  Poor form 

I'd post pics but they are to big for SA and I'm no computer wiz so........

 

Congrats Phil.

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Good news, Prophecy, the Spoon Bay is coming to the northern end of Moreton Bay. 

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1 hour ago, plywoodboy said:

Good news, Prophecy, the Spoon Bay is coming to the northern end of Moreton Bay. 

Nice Woodpecker. Is it going to live down in your mud puddle?

 

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4 hours ago, WetnWild said:

Nice Woodpecker. Is it going to live down in your mud puddle?

 

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Lovely Tri, i owned her from 1999 to 2003. She's a go anywhere cruiser with a good turn of speed in a bit of breeze. 

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 Living Scarborough with u but sailing with us I think. 

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1 hour ago, plywoodboy said:

 Living Scarborough with u but sailing with us I think. 

Goodo. Will be a lovely addition to both venues. 

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1 hour ago, PIL66 said:

Thought i'd share.... boat is now looking like Taeping469868573_cyno2.thumb.jpg.83ba4abe7feb8ce540858d357a30e1a5.jpg

Like Taeping used to look ;)

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On 6/28/2018 at 2:10 PM, Indian Chief said:

Lovely Tri, i owned her from 1999 to 2003. She's a go anywhere cruiser with a good turn of speed in a bit of breeze. 

A turn of speed indeed based on my experience last Saturday. And will be even better when they dig deeper into the inventory and find the masthead kite. 

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Any of the  aust multis heading north Hammo ,magnetic races need an experianced crew member for delivery home i am available.

PM me

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I saw Windswept 2 out for a sneaky midweek sail this week, training for the Crowther I guess, looked nice gliding around Pittwater in the light breeze

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Better move quick on this if you want the best rating racer in Oz.

https://trilogytrimaransailingforsale.com.au

Could even be a good cruiser racer with very little work as the owner who bought her off Keith has glammed her up nicely. 

Anyone want to win the northern regattas this year?

Peter H

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On 8/6/2018 at 3:17 PM, randii said:

This one might fit here... she's maybe not as old as some of the above...
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2002/Grainger-Raider-302-2789191/Australia#.W2T9TMIh1EY

Currency exchange makes such boats look so damn good...

Randii

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Out of curiosity, does anyone know what it would cost to get a boat like this to the east coast USA? Port of Newark for instance. 

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13 hours ago, Mike in CT said:

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what it would cost to get a boat like this to the east coast USA? Port of Newark for instance. 

I'm guessing $10,000 - $15,000 in a container.

My 38ft version is for sale demountable ... Same deal to send... 40ft container  $80,000 Aus dollars ... yes I bought an add

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On 8/6/2018 at 3:17 PM, randii said:

This one might fit here... she's maybe not as old as some of the above...
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2002/Grainger-Raider-302-2789191/Australia#.W2T9TMIh1EY

Currency exchange makes such boats look so damn good...

Randii

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Any clue why this boat hasn't sold? It's been for sale a long time. Price seems reasonable. Is it heavy? I see it's been structurally reinforced inside the hulls around the main beam area. 

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18 hours ago, PIL66 said:

I'm guessing $10,000 - $15,000 in a container.

My 38ft version is for sale demountable ... Same deal to send... 40ft container  $80,000 Aus dollars ... yes I bought an add

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Beautiful boat, if I had the dough I'd be all over it. 

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20 hours ago, bushsailor said:

See if you can trade it on Windswept.

Windswept would be a hard boat to sell.

The thought had crossed my mind... ... The up keep would be a killer 

I'm waiting for info on something else

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Cynophobe / 66 has just been sold

Whats on the market that's racey and between 40-54 ft  $130,000-230,000

Yes I know I had just bought it but that's me... short attention span

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43 minutes ago, PIL66 said:

Cynophobe / 66 has just been sold

Whats on the market that's racey and between 40-54 ft  $130,000-230,000

Yes I know I had just bought it but that's me... short attention span

Afterburner is for sale at $37k USD.  That has to be the most knots per dollar of any sailboat ever in the history of time.  For $130AUD you could probably get her over there with a full refit and a new set of sails.  

https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/boa/d/newport-beach-afterburner/6809828260.html

Great Craigslist ad too.  Makes me think... maybe I could set her up as a singlehanded family daysailer... 

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2 hours ago, PIL66 said:

Cynophobe / 66 has just been sold

Whats on the market that's racey and between 40-54 ft  $130,000-230,000

Yes I know I had just bought it but that's me... short attention span

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Has she gone to Cairns ?

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8 hours ago, cynophobe said:

Has she gone to Cairns ?

 

10 hours ago, PIL66 said:

Cynophobe / 66 has just been sold

Whats on the market that's racey and between 40-54 ft  $130,000-230,000

Yes I know I had just bought it but that's me... short attention span

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On 6/12/2013 at 4:14 PM, PIL66 said:

 

Man I hope so.....She was one powerful boat offshore in a blow and Nudd used to have go....... .So sad to see these things not used. We could start a thread on the many jems minding moorings.

XL2..Shotover 2...Matchless...Raw Nerv and that's just in NSW

 

On 6/6/2013 at 9:23 PM, Rohanoz said:

 

Still there...

 

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On 9/4/2013 at 8:54 AM, Indian Chief said:

Pil, you have been talking long enough, we are all over you, time to act. buy it now, it wont kill you at that price. leave it in Pittwater so you have some others to race. As my kids would say YOLO ( you only live once)

Funny to go back to old threads (2013)..... It's come full circle.... I just sold 66  (ex Cynophobe) gone to a French fellow in Tahiti (40ft Container)

I just bought XL2..... here we go again

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Great news now get your Gladstone entry in!!!!

it will be a gentle 12 kn reach the whole way, warm, full moon, free beer when you arrive......

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44 minutes ago, bushsailor said:

Great news now get your Gladstone entry in!!!!

it will be a gentle 12 kn reach the whole way, warm, full moon, free beer when you arrive......

Hookers......?     No wait, Gladstone.... cancel that.

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1 hour ago, PIL66 said:

Hookers......?     No wait, Gladstone.... cancel that.

Do Gladstone hookers take their teeth out, or leave them in? Asking for a friend (paging LB15...).

 

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XL2 is a great bit of Aussie history for sure, but fairdinkum they must have truly stuffed Cynophobe if XL 2 is a more exciting prospect. Anyway I'm sure you'll have fun mate. 

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Wow - awesome news Pil.  Would say I am shocked, but that would be a lie!

Call past here on your way down the coast and I'll get some updated photos of it in the river!!!

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16 hours ago, cynophobe said:

XL2 is a great bit of Aussie history for sure, but fairdinkum they must have truly stuffed Cynophobe if XL 2 is a more exciting prospect. Anyway I'm sure you'll have fun mate. 

Haha not at all Chippy... Cyno is going great... He's my conclusion on the boat and why I'm buying XL2.... and I don't profess to know all on it just my take.

I think Cyno would benefit from new rudder shapes more in line with Mad Max... I was going to do it but my priority changed. I also think slightly longer bows would help and then change the rig to rotating. Boards could be lighter. This has been discussed with the new owner and he is committed to making changes.

My issue with the boat and the reason i sold was due to how exposed I felt offshore...  here at Cronulla it is truly offshore and I felt I was ON the boat and not IN the boat. I'd lie at night thinking how easy it would be to fall off and if so, at over 20 knots of speed in swell, how easy would it be to find me or my crew after getting a kite down and heading back. I couldn't  shake the thought and it played on me. 20 years ago with my last Shockwave, I was 10 foot tall and bullet proof so that just wasn't something i thought much about and It surprised me that now I do.... but it's partly due to an incident i was involved in 10 years ago at Flinders Island....... that's another story.

There were two races this year where the breeze was forecast at 25 knots with gusts of 30.... I elected to cancel the day even though there was no official warning. I just wasn't comfortable with sending my guys down a rocky coast with a building onshore breeze plus a 6-8 ft ground swell as we would be very exposed in case of a mishap.

It's been a great learning curve for me to realize actually what I want and I got very lucky to have had this stepping stone with minimal loss of $ and to find a great buyer who was easy to deal with...

Now XL2..... I Spoke to the owner a year ago just before i bought Cynophobe but he was just not ready to sell so I bought Cyno at the right price and after a year of fun sailing, the stars have just aligned for me. The boat has more protection for crew and will be safer in questionable conditions... I can also take my girl and friends away and sleep on it which is a bonus. At the Lock Crowther regatta I hired a motor home for the RMYC car park to sleep in.

I wanted to go a bit bigger than XL2 initially but every extra couple of feet after 40 seems to  add 20% extra in costs of running the boat moving forward. 

So after considering A Room With A View (Crowther 52) and Crowded House (Given 60).. Both these boats need work where XL2 was turn key.. I'm over project boats and just don't now have the energy for it..... I felt it was best to be realistic about my financial status as well  (see I'm finally growing up at 53).....  

Anyway.. I'm happy for now.....

5 hours ago, Rohanoz said:

Wow  - awesome news Pil.  Would say I am shocked, but that would be a lie!

Call past here on your way down the coast and I'll get some updated photos of it in the river!!!

Your on for the regatta  this year.... bowman... lol

16 hours ago, ALL@SEA said:

One of XL2's younger 1/2 siblings, there was some close racing between the two a few years ago now...

Image result for crowther free spirit

https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-catamarans/crowther-shockwave-43-free-spirit/231285

It looks great in the broker pics... good value at that price

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Great move Pil, best thing is that XL2 has had all the work done and her uhm volvo mast is true sparporn. 

All the best.

 

 

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16 hours ago, plywoodboy said:

Great move Pil, best thing is that XL2 has had all the work done and her uhm volvo mast is true sparporn. 

All the best.

 

 

Volvo...?  I thought it was Hugo Boss section..... no matter.. nice anyway and I believe engineered by some one at Marstrom

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I guess the extra money is to pay for all the extra weight that has been added since...

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7 hours ago, Tylo said:

"Room With a View" just hit the market for a whopping AU$ 350k. Seems like a pretty hefty price tag but then again it seems to have a long and successful sailing history. 

https://yachthub.com/list/boats-for-sale/used/sail-catamarans/crowther-53-custom-built/234814

This needs the same refurb XL2 had ..... I love it but not with all the extras.... Sounds like a high price to me

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52 minutes ago, PIL66 - XL2 said:

This needs the same refurb XL2 had ..... I love it but not with all the extras.... Sounds like a high price to me

I was on Room last week just after the broker left. Its in really good nick, doesn't need a refurb at all. If you don't mind the "extras" with a few changes it would be an awesome quick cruiser/offshore racer. The front beam and catwalk are all composite and nicely done. The engine/s set up needs to be totally changed as it would drag terribly but otherwise its pretty good and big compared to my boat as in hulls and pod. It wouldn't take much to sort the engine set up. Maybe the little pods each side could go, however they would be very handy for storage and even as bunks for visitors when cruising/deliveries. The central pod seems closer to the water than when she was in race trim so i'd think it needs looking at. Looks as though some has added to it to get more height in the pod. Is it worth 350k, every day it is, but will he get that much for it, time will tell. 

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On 4/10/2019 at 2:37 PM, PIL66 - XL2 said:

So after considering A Room With A View (Crowther 52) and Crowded House (Given 60).. Both these boats need work where XL2 was turn key.. I'm over project boats and just don't now have the energy for it..... I felt it was best to be realistic about my financial status as well  (see I'm finally growing up at 53).....  

What's the story with Crowded House?  It's for sale?

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21 hours ago, Indian Chief said:

I was on Room last week just after the broker left. Its in really good nick, doesn't need a refurb at all. If you don't mind the "extras" with a few changes it would be an awesome quick cruiser/offshore racer. The front beam and catwalk are all composite and nicely done. The engine/s set up needs to be totally changed as it would drag terribly but otherwise its pretty good and big compared to my boat as in hulls and pod. It wouldn't take much to sort the engine set up. Maybe the little pods each side could go, however they would be very handy for storage and even as bunks for visitors when cruising/deliveries. The central pod seems closer to the water than when she was in race trim so i'd think it needs looking at. Looks as though some has added to it to get more height in the pod. Is it worth 350k, every day it is, but will he get that much for it, time will tell. 

Thanks for that.... good to hear... for me it would be a new taller rig and new sails. All motors off and looked at.... I would keep the rear pods if they weren't too heavy.... But just that is over $100,000....

New carbon front beam.. interesting. 

14 hours ago, bigmarv said:

What's the story with Crowded House?  It's for sale?

It's a 60ft Given built in NZ owned by a guy in Melbourne .... and he is ready to sell for a very reasonable price.... It was just to big for me 

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On 7/2/2019 at 11:45 AM, Indian Chief said:

I was on Room last week just after the broker left. Its in really good nick, doesn't need a refurb at all. If you don't mind the "extras" with a few changes it would be an awesome quick cruiser/offshore racer. The front beam and catwalk are all composite and nicely done. The engine/s set up needs to be totally changed as it would drag terribly but otherwise its pretty good and big compared to my boat as in hulls and pod. It wouldn't take much to sort the engine set up. Maybe the little pods each side could go, however they would be very handy for storage and even as bunks for visitors when cruising/deliveries. The central pod seems closer to the water than when she was in race trim so i'd think it needs looking at. Looks as though some has added to it to get more height in the pod. Is it worth 350k, every day it is, but will he get that much for it, time will tell. 

Interesting thought is.... If you can afford this $350,000 for Room With A View... Would you find another $95,000 and buy Windswept...?   New sails, mast, motors and paint

https://yachthub.com/list/boats-for-sale/used/sail-catamarans/crowther-southern-ocean-56/229186

https://yachthub.com/list/boats-for-sale/used/sail-catamarans/crowther-53-custom-built/234814

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9 hours ago, PIL66 - XL2 said:

It's a 60ft Given built in NZ owned by a guy in Melbourne .... and he is ready to sell for a very reasonable price.... It was just to big for me 

What's the construction? And can you say what a 'reasonable price' might be?

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7 hours ago, PIL66 - XL2 said:

Interesting thought is.... If you can afford this $350,000 for Room With A View... Would you find another $95,000 and buy Windswept...?   New sails, mast, motors and paint

https://yachthub.com/list/boats-for-sale/used/sail-catamarans/crowther-southern-ocean-56/229186

https://yachthub.com/list/boats-for-sale/used/sail-catamarans/crowther-53-custom-built/234814

Windswept is so much cooler IMHO. And it was listed at first at a much lower price for a few days when it came to the market again, so maybe there is a lot of room for discussion. 

Paul 

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14 hours ago, bigmarv said:

What's the construction? And can you say what a 'reasonable price' might be?

I won't talk money here as it's not officially on the market but if someone is seriously interested they can PM me  

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