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Boat's going, but without me this year :(

 

Probably will go faster tho

 

But...

 

I'm hoping to be at the start in my center console photographing and videoing the start. Plz PM me if you'd like me to try to photo/video your boat. No charge, but no guarantees of quality either!

 

2N

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In, double handed on my buddy's J-46 Seabiscuit again. It'll be interesting to see if we get as many double handed entries this year. 2010 was a record year with 26 entries across two classes. Here's a look at some entry stats over the last six races.

 

 

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My wife and I are planning to sail Toodle-oo! to Bermuda next year and wondering if there are others planning similar trips that we might be able to hook up with to make the trip even more enjoyable.

 

Our plan is to depart Newport early/mid June, stay a week and then return to Newport. We will not be participating in the race...

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I'm in. Can't wait to go upwind in light air for 4 days in a downwind boat!

 

you thinking DH or fully crewed?

 

Hey bud!

 

DH on an Akilaria RC2 Class 40. Praying for 20-25 from the NE!

 

Can't do it on Samba unfortunately, no inboard engine.

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I'm in. Can't wait to go upwind in light air for 4 days in a downwind boat!

 

you thinking DH or fully crewed?

 

Hey bud!

 

DH on an Akilaria RC2 Class 40. Praying for 20-25 from the NE!

 

Can't do it on Samba unfortunately, no inboard engine.

 

Care to make a little side wager? Dragon is in.

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I'm in. Can't wait to go upwind in light air for 4 days in a downwind boat!

 

you thinking DH or fully crewed?

 

Hey bud!

 

DH on an Akilaria RC2 Class 40. Praying for 20-25 from the NE!

 

Can't do it on Samba unfortunately, no inboard engine.

 

Care to make a little side wager? Dragon is in.

 

Always! But I need an escape clause in the event of a light southeasterly forecast...:D

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I'm in. Can't wait to go upwind in light air for 4 days in a downwind boat!

 

you thinking DH or fully crewed?

 

Hey bud!

 

DH on an Akilaria RC2 Class 40. Praying for 20-25 from the NE!

 

Can't do it on Samba unfortunately, no inboard engine.

 

Care to make a little side wager? Dragon is in.

 

Always! But I need an escape clause in the event of a light southeasterly forecast...:D

 

Makes ya bets, takes ya chances....

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in

 

No shit?

 

I need to find a ride now, was planning on a relaxing summer.

 

yep G. on a promise....had to cancel last one through injury. just look for the Oprah with the biggest wine bottles you've ever seen and probably by then a really loud crew.

 

stoked to be doing another.....old mate's got a real bug up his arse about this race. might be a few more in him yet. ;)

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No shit?

 

I need to find a ride now, was planning on a relaxing summer.

 

You have a ride, just bring it up here and send it. it will be good practice for Pineapple

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No shit?

 

I need to find a ride now, was planning on a relaxing summer.

 

You have a ride, just bring it up here and send it. it will be good practice for Pineapple

 

Backwards. Pineapple is warm up for Bermuda, cause just about the time you are over it in the Pineapple, you make a right turn and blast down to Jamaica! :lol:

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Noob here... I would be interested.... however. Single handers not welcome? WTF. This is a typical east coat establishment race, low budget sailors need not apply. Evidently if I don't get down on my knees and service Yanmar I am not welcome. Totally lame, are you racing or not?

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Noob here... I would be interested.... however. Single handers not welcome? WTF. This is a typical east coat establishment race, low budget sailors need not apply. Evidently if I don't get down on my knees and service Yanmar I am not welcome. Totally lame, are you racing or not?

 

First of all, in keeping with SA tradition, fuck off noob and show us your girlfriend's tits.

 

Second of all, you are correct, the Newport-Bermuda race has no single handed division, as is the case for pretty much all the Bermuda races including Marion-Bermuda, Charleston-Bermuda and Annapolis-Bermuda. I'd recommend you take a look at Bermuda 1-2, in which you'll find a terrific group of Corinthian style racers, many on modest budgets and all serious short handed competitors. Run on odd years, the next start is slated for June 8, 2013 which will give you enough time to prepare if you begin now. The NOR probably won't be posted until the fall of 2012 but you can use the 2011 NOR as a starting point for required safety gear. The race organizer, Roy Guay, does a fantastic job running the race and periodically sends newsletters and updates to competitors so get on his email list if you're serious about entering. There are also 2x/year gatherings of past and prospective competitors in Newport if you're in the area. Look no further if you seek a worthy goal on which to set your sights. You will be challenged, I guarantee it. Hope to see you out there.

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What Jonathan said....check out the Bermuda 1-2

 

(thanks for the Christmas card, Jonathan. I am still gonna kick your ass in June ;))

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Thanks guys. My Express 27 is not welcome in the Bermuda 1-2, this is a common theme on the east coat. Seriously, an inboard required for a sailboat race? Looks like I will need to trailer my boat 3K miles... or maybe I should just do some pirate action.

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Thanks guys. My Express 27 is not welcome in the Bermuda 1-2, this is a common theme on the east coat. Seriously, an inboard required for a sailboat race? Looks like I will need to trailer my boat 3K miles... or maybe I should just do some pirate action.

 

Boy, you give up easy, don't you. If you would take the time to read the NOR, you'll see there's no mention of an inboard engine required. I know of at least five boats who entered this year whose auxiliary engine was an outboard. Your ineligibility lies in section 6.1 of this year's NOR where the minimum length is specified at 28 feet. Time for a 12" bowsprit. Get on it.

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Thanks guys. My Express 27 is not welcome in the Bermuda 1-2, this is a common theme on the east coat. Seriously, an inboard required for a sailboat race? Looks like I will need to trailer my boat 3K miles... or maybe I should just do some pirate action.

Have you ever done a BDA race? While you could get there on an E 27, this is not a downwind race like the TP. There are a handfull of races over the last several years that you would not wanted to have been crossing the Gulf Stream in an Express 27 with the wind on your nose.

Sure you could do it. But why?

There is also limited space in BDA for dockage, and not usually a shortage of boats that want to go.

Is your Express 27 ready to satisfy all the safety requirements? That alone can run you more than $10k. On a 42 footer that had already sailed the race (under different owner), it cost nearly 20k to get her complient. You also need a percentage of race veterans in your crew, who have satisfied the SAS program.

Sorry you can't take your boat, but I think it is for your own safety. Whay don't you hitch a ride?

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Thanks guys. My Express 27 is not welcome in the Bermuda 1-2, this is a common theme on the east coat. Seriously, an inboard required for a sailboat race? Looks like I will need to trailer my boat 3K miles... or maybe I should just do some pirate action.

 

Outboards are fine for the Bermuda 1-2. I do the race and my boat has an outboard. Put a small fixed bowsprit or a little scoop on the stern and you're in. Awesome race!

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Thanks guys. My Express 27 is not welcome in the Bermuda 1-2, this is a common theme on the east coat. Seriously, an inboard required for a sailboat race? Looks like I will need to trailer my boat 3K miles... or maybe I should just do some pirate action.

 

Boy, you give up easy, don't you. If you would take the time to read the NOR, you'll see there's no mention of an inboard engine required. I know of at least five boats who entered this year whose auxiliary engine was an outboard. Your ineligibility lies in section 6.1 of this year's NOR where the minimum length is specified at 28 feet. Time for a 12" bowsprit. Get on it.

 

Ooops....should have scrolled down further. Sorry. At least the advice was consistent!

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Jonathan,

Obviously I was referring to the Newport-Bermuda 2012 race and my engine comment is accurate. I suspect I am not the lone ranger in my thinking.

Have a nice day sailing.

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Jonathan,

Obviously I was referring to the Newport-Bermuda 2012 race and my engine comment is accurate. I suspect I am not the lone ranger in my thinking.

Have a nice day sailing.

 

 

Sorry, but you specifically said "My Express 27 is not welcome in the Bermuda 1-2" and then referenced the need for an inboard engine. That comment is not accurate with regard to the Bermuda 1-2. For the 1-2, you would simply need to do as a couple people have suggested - add a 12" sprit or sugar scoop.

 

As for the Newport Bermuda race, the organizers have exercised their perogative to have certain standards that they view as appropriate for safety. They are proud of their very, very long track record of safety and take some aggressive measures to make sure that it remains safe. It certainly can be argued that their standards are a bit of over kill, but it is their right. I have personally witnessed several situations in both races where in inboard engine was pretty valuable for an owner that was no longer able to race and needed to get back to shore, and I have seen negative consequences where an owner was not able to get back to shore under power for a variety of reasons.

 

Like others said - make the relatively minor modification to your boat to add 12"s and enter the Bermuda 1-2. It has the single handing you want, allows for an outboard and the people are great.

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Thanks Jonathan and others,

 

You made my point for me, on the east coast you are recommending 1 race held bi-annually. Good suggestions for the modifications needed for the 1-2. I wish the Newport-Bermuda race organizers well, a tough job for sure.

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Thanks Jonathan and others,

 

You made my point for me, on the east coast you are recommending 1 race held bi-annually. Good suggestions for the modifications needed for the 1-2. I wish the Newport-Bermuda race organizers well, a tough job for sure.

 

Why don't you take your express 27 and single-hand it up your ass, I will time you.

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Thanks Jonathan and others,

 

You made my point for me, on the east coast you are recommending 1 race held bi-annually. Good suggestions for the modifications needed for the 1-2. I wish the Newport-Bermuda race organizers well, a tough job for sure.

 

Why don't you take your express 27 and single-hand it up your ass, I will time you.

 

You thinking TOT or TOD?

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Thanks Jonathan and others,

 

You made my point for me, on the east coast you are recommending 1 race held bi-annually. Good suggestions for the modifications needed for the 1-2. I wish the Newport-Bermuda race organizers well, a tough job for sure.

 

Why don't you take your express 27 and single-hand it up your ass, I will time you.

 

You thinking TOT or TOD?

 

The latter depends on how far up his ass he's able to shove it. TOT would be much more appropriate in this instance.

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Only two weeks since registration opened and we've got some great competition lined up in the DH division:

 

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Of course Paladin is the boat to beat here as they took the division in 2010 and, as usual, did great in the DH events around Long Island Sound last year including winning the Double Handed Ocean Racing Trophy (DHORT).

 

It's great to see Lora Ann on the list as well. I thought Rich did some racing on Carina at Fastnet and Sydney-Hobart (or was that his son?) so I wasn't sure if he was going.

 

I'm not sure how many races Joe Harris has entered on his new (I think) Class 40 but I can only hope he hasn't figured out all its secrets yet, lest he crush us all.

 

Scott Miller on Resolute trounced me more than once last year so it's clear he'll be giving us some trouble.

 

My buddy Tom on Whisper claims to be in intensive training right now but I'm not buying it. I offered to lighten his boat up with my chainsaw over the winter months but he declined.

 

Any intel on the other entries would be helpful - I'm not familiar with them. One surprise was seeing the J35 Great Scott entered fully crewed. They took 2nd place DH in 2010 and I was hoping to face them again. What gives?

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Only two weeks since registration opened and we've got some great competition lined up in the DH division:

 

DHEntries01-27.png

 

 

 

Of course Paladin is the boat to beat here as they took the division in 2010 and, as usual, did great in the DH events around Long Island Sound last year including winning the Double Handed Ocean Racing Trophy (DHORT).

 

It's great to see Lora Ann on the list as well. I thought Rich did some racing on Carina at Fastnet and Sydney-Hobart (or was that his son?) so I wasn't sure if he was going.

I'm not sure how many races Joe Harris has entered on his new (I think) Class 40 but I can only hope he hasn't figured out all its secrets yet, lest he crush us all.

 

Scott Miller on Resolute trounced me more than once last year so it's clear he'll be giving us some trouble.

 

My buddy Tom on Whisper claims to be in intensive training right now but I'm not buying it. I offered to lighten his boat up with my chainsaw over the winter months but he declined.

 

Any intel on the other entries would be helpful - I'm not familiar with them. One surprise was seeing the J35 Great Scott entered fully crewed. They took 2nd place DH in 2010 and I was hoping to face them again. What gives?

 

Rich kept the boat on the hard in 2011 to focus on racing with his family on Carina in their worldwide tour. Gloves are back off in 2012.

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Thanks guys. My Express 27 is not welcome in the Bermuda 1-2, this is a common theme on the east coat. Seriously, an inboard required for a sailboat race? Looks like I will need to trailer my boat 3K miles... or maybe I should just do some pirate action.

 

Boy, you give up easy, don't you. If you would take the time to read the NOR, you'll see there's no mention of an inboard engine required. I know of at least five boats who entered this year whose auxiliary engine was an outboard. Your ineligibility lies in section 6.1 of this year's NOR where the minimum length is specified at 28 feet. Time for a 12" bowsprit. Get on it.

 

Ooops....should have scrolled down further. Sorry. At least the advice was consistent!

 

The real rule for inboards is actually in the ISAF OSR at 3.28.1(e). The mention of the inboard in the NOR is unnecessary.

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The real rule for inboards is actually in the ISAF OSR at 3.28.1(e). The mention of the inboard in the NOR is unnecessary.

 

Still trying to learn. I will read that document and keep practicing.

The NOR mentions a SI requirement of 115, which is an issue for my boat (107.2). There are a some boats that are borderline with that requirement that are entered (J-35 for example). Did the owners modify the boat or don't I understand something?

Thanks

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The real rule for inboards is actually in the ISAF OSR at 3.28.1(e). The mention of the inboard in the NOR is unnecessary.

 

Still trying to learn. I will read that document and keep practicing.

The NOR mentions a SI requirement of 115, which is an issue for my boat (107.2). There are a some boats that are borderline with that requirement that are entered (J-35 for example). Did the owners modify the boat or don't I understand something?

Thanks

 

The only J35's that I know the circumstances of modified their ballast to meet the stability requirements

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Anybody who needs to get their Safety at Sea certification for the first time, or renewed, the Storm Trysail Foundation, along with SUNY Maritime and USMMA King's Point will be hosting a S@S on Saturday April 14th.

 

More info and sign-up sheet here

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Looks like the new Donnybrook is the ex-Magnitude 80? Racing in the Open class so we know it's a canting Andrews and Magnitude seems to fit that bill...

 

I guess there was no saving the old one after she took on that rock in the Naptown-Newport Race.

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Looks like the new Donnybrook is the ex-Magnitude 80? Racing in the Open class so we know it's a canting Andrews and Magnitude seems to fit that bill...

 

I guess there was no saving the old one after she took on that rock in the Naptown-Newport Race.

 

Spoke with a few off their crew around XMas and they confirmed it.

 

 

 

 

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Looks like the new Donnybrook is the ex-Magnitude 80? Racing in the Open class so we know it's a canting Andrews and Magnitude seems to fit that bill...

 

I guess there was no saving the old one after she took on that rock in the Naptown-Newport Race.

 

Here are the Bermuda Race entries to date.

 

There appear to be about 90 boats entered to date. No Rambler or RAN yet or even an Avalanche or another 395. Avra is no longer identified as a modified J120 and she appears to be racing in Gibbs Hill. Is there a new boat and will George have pros on board? There are 5 J44s registered, which is another impressive turnout from that group.

 

Anything else interesting?

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Yes

 

Check out page 16 on the Bermuda Race NOR

 

Sec 6, Training:

 

BORC prescribes that all competitors should attend the CCA Safety-at-Sea Seminar and Pre-Race briefing to be held in Newport March 17, 2012 (on March 18 there is a Race Preparations seminar, a First Aid and CPR Course, and a Hands On Training Course) or other sanctioned Safety-at-Sea Seminar.

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"There is a new rule. A minimum of 30% of all crew members shall have attended a US SAILING-sanctioned safety-at-sea seminar within five years of the start of the race. The captain and either the navigator or a watch captain must be included in the required 30%. In addition, two members of each crew must hold a First-Aid/CPR certificate. For Double-Handed Division yachts, both crewmembers must attend a seminar"

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"There is a new rule. A minimum of 30% of all crew members shall have attended a US SAILING-sanctioned safety-at-sea seminar within five years of the start of the race. The captain and either the navigator or a watch captain must be included in the required 30%. In addition, two members of each crew must hold a First-Aid/CPR certificate. For Double-Handed Division yachts, both crewmembers must attend a seminar"

 

Pretty sure MHOR and RHSP both require 30% for SAS as well, don't know when they put the requirement in, anyone know?

 

HW

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LH, JG, HW;

 

yes, the rule is 30% as LH stated.

 

The spirit is that all crew members are encouraged to attend, but not required to, other then the skipper, watch captain/navigator.

 

Thanks to all for raising the requirement issue.

 

We look forward to seeing all those who are able to make it to SUNY Maritime on April 14th, but obviously do also encourage participants to attend one of the SAS events if possible before this season gets underway.

 

-SS

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Registration is now available online for the April 14th Safety at Sea @ SUNY Maritime

 

Remember, all crew members are required to have a valid S@S certification for this year's Bermuda Race.

 

more info; Storm Trysail Foundation on facebook

 

 

There are two in Halifax this year as well, May 16 and April something (not attending the latter so I don't know the date)

 

Convinced Pops to pay for it now mum's forcing him to take it too, heard only good things about it so it should be a blast.

 

HW

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Thanks Jonathan and others,

 

You made my point for me, on the east coast you are recommending 1 race held bi-annually. Good suggestions for the modifications needed for the 1-2. I wish the Newport-Bermuda race organizers well, a tough job for sure.

 

Why don't you take your express 27 and single-hand it up your ass, I will time you.

 

Better yet, I'll buy your Express 27 from you and single-hand it up to home on Lake Champlain!

Let me know if she's for sale!

-Alec

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Dragon is in. Looks like we have five Class 40's so far.

 

Excellent. It would make my year to see the words "Fucking Seabiscuit" on this thread again so I'll do my best to torment.

 

I saw 40 Degrees and Bodacious Dream on there as yet undecided on division - do you know if they're thinking DH?

 

In 2010, we had a good warm up in the DH division of the Block Island Race, which included 8 Bermuda Race participants among the 16 boats entered. Seabiscuit's planning to be there again this year. (Note: I don't like to promote this race because historically they've excluded me from entering my boat but if I can face some good DH competition on my buddy's boat by posting this link, I suppose it's worth it.)

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I will aim to disappoint you.

 

For the Class 40's, the warm up is going to be the Atlantic Cup. 645 miles from Charlston to NYC for the first leg, 180 miles from NYC to Newport for the second leg, and then in-shore racing in Newport on Memorial Day weekend. Its gonna be a kick ass fleet.

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From Npt-Bda Crew FInder:

 

Previous America's Cup winner, 3 x Fastnet winner, dismasted and pitchpoled in Volvo ATW, fought off cannibals in Samoa, pirates in the Gulf of Aden. Will cook, clean the bottom, fix the Windex in a gale. I've got the balls of a matador, the strength of an ape, the sensitiviy of Robert Redford and the humor of Jerry Seinfeld. I'm your guy for this race.

 

Odysseus Conner

AmericasCupVictor@aol.com

 

:lol:

 

I'm sure this was someone here.

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NOR is up as of 12/2/2011. Time to start planning. Who is in?

 

 

Can you climb into a life raft in your full inflated PFD with foulies and boots on, even in a swimming pool ? Try it at the Practical, Hands on Training Safety Seminar at the CCA SAS seminar in Newport RI.

The Newport Bermuda Race Safety at Sea Seminar on March 17-18 introducesa new approach to safety education. The seminar serves sailors in the 2012Newport Bermuda Race as well as delivery and crews returning from Bermuda and otheroffshore sailors. It is also perfect forskippers and crews on coastal racers plus ocean and coastal cruisers, too. ThisCruising Club of America seminar is at the Newport (RI) Hyatt Regency Hotel on Goat Island.

 

Register at http://www.bermudara...90/Default.aspx in advance. Orfor those who choose to register at the door in Newport, walk-ins are welcome.

 

On Saturday, March 17, the seminar offers two tracks. The morning 'refresher course' is for anybodywho has attended two or more US SAILING certified safety seminars since 2002.Participants may then do hands-on, in-water survival training in the afternoon. They will earn an ISAFApproved Certificate in one day. The other track is the All-day Safety atSea seminar for people who have not attended a safety seminar recently.

 

On Sunday, there are two all-day courses— the Practical, Hands on Training Safety Seminar that combines with Saturday's all day Safety at Sea Seminar to awardthe ISAF Approved Offshore Personal Survival Course certificate anda Red Cross First Aid and CPR training course. In addition, a Newport Bermuda Race Preparation Seminar aimedspecifically at Bermuda Race sailors will be held in the morning.

 

More information about the CCA Safety at Sea Seminar and a link to directregistration and details about the Newport Bermuda Race are at www.BermudaRace.com.

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Well the plan as of a while ago was that I would go to Bermuda on my regular ride. This however became impossible when my regular ride recently decided not to compete in the race - major bummer but understandable. So SA community, I'm left with a problem. I've already cleared out late June, signed up for a SAS course in April and no longer have a boat to go south on. This leaves me asking... does anyone know of a boat with space for a fun, competitive, versatile, dedicated, hearty college sailor?

 

I have tons of highly competitive distance experience for my age and am a past winner of M2H, around BI, Vineyard (2x) and ALIR. Racked up 2300+ distance sailing miles just in the last year alone. Lots of offshore racing experience on boats of all sizes up to 66 feet and at the time of the race I'll be SAS, CPR, First Aid, AED certified. My calendar is wide open starting May 16th to help with any boat prep, measurement, practice (Edlu, Around Block, etc) or deliveries (to NPT, from BDA) that may be on your calendar.

 

I know that it's getting late but hopefully someone, somewhere, knows of something. This is a big bummer after having a major conflict come up last time around.

 

I have a full resume/reference list if anyone wants to hear more.

 

THANKS!

W

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Late entry.

 

We are looking for some housing options in BDA. If someone has some space to relet, want to split a house, etc please pm me.

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Two months out and awfully quiet...

 

Seems that a lot of boats take their time signing up for this each time (I know we do for some reason).

 

Someone told me another 90' would be on the line but I don't recall the name (was in a bar) and I don't see it listed. Anyone?

 

 

 

 

Bueller?

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Thanks for that link, I'm registered but did not know to bring 2 sets of foulies. Sounds fun!

 

For anybody who hasn't signed up yet for the Safety at Sea @ SUNY Maritime please do so now!

 

Yeah, it's kind of funny, I think I'm bringing more gear to SAS than I am bringing on to the boat for the Bermuda race itself.

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Well the plan as of a while ago was that I would go to Bermuda on my regular ride. This however became impossible when my regular ride recently decided not to compete in the race - major bummer but understandable. So SA community, I'm left with a problem. I've already cleared out late June, signed up for a SAS course in April and no longer have a boat to go south on. This leaves me asking... does anyone know of a boat with space for a fun, competitive, versatile, dedicated, hearty college sailor?

 

I have tons of highly competitive distance experience for my age and am a past winner of M2H, around BI, Vineyard (2x) and ALIR. Racked up 2300+ distance sailing miles just in the last year alone. Lots of offshore racing experience on boats of all sizes up to 66 feet and at the time of the race I'll be SAS, CPR, First Aid, AED certified. My calendar is wide open starting May 16th to help with any boat prep, measurement, practice (Edlu, Around Block, etc) or deliveries (to NPT, from BDA) that may be on your calendar.

 

I know that it's getting late but hopefully someone, somewhere, knows of something. This is a big bummer after having a major conflict come up last time around.

 

I have a full resume/reference list if anyone wants to hear more.

 

THANKS!

W

 

Does that resume include the Cabin Boy duties? :ph34r:

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Well the plan as of a while ago was that I would go to Bermuda on my regular ride. This however became impossible when my regular ride recently decided not to compete in the race - major bummer but understandable. So SA community, I'm left with a problem. I've already cleared out late June, signed up for a SAS course in April and no longer have a boat to go south on. This leaves me asking... does anyone know of a boat with space for a fun, competitive, versatile, dedicated, hearty college sailor?

 

I have tons of highly competitive distance experience for my age and am a past winner of M2H, around BI, Vineyard (2x) and ALIR. Racked up 2300+ distance sailing miles just in the last year alone. Lots of offshore racing experience on boats of all sizes up to 66 feet and at the time of the race I'll be SAS, CPR, First Aid, AED certified. My calendar is wide open starting May 16th to help with any boat prep, measurement, practice (Edlu, Around Block, etc) or deliveries (to NPT, from BDA) that may be on your calendar.

 

I know that it's getting late but hopefully someone, somewhere, knows of something. This is a big bummer after having a major conflict come up last time around.

 

I have a full resume/reference list if anyone wants to hear more.

 

THANKS!

W

 

Does that resume include the Cabin Boy duties? :ph34r:

 

Depends on who's asking....

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