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Puma Sailing Apparel

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Ok, so I'm seeing this Team Oracle Puma gear that is being whored around in by the AC dudes, and the VOR program is in fully swing. Now why is it that Puma sponsors the shite out of our beloved sport, but does sweet Grannies left tit to get this stuff out there for us to buy. Hell, I can buy some low grade Iranian plutonium easier than I can a fucking Puma AC jacket. As for their VOR swag, maybe I'll pass. That gear they had out the past go around wasn't worth wrapping up a dead hooker in. Granted, the clown boots were pretty comfy, but the monkey shit brown ones were rather sparse.

 

Does anyone know if these merchants of mythological apparel are going to release any sailing gear onto the North American Continent?

 

Camper, you're doing a wonderful job in comparison... However, $170 for some deck shoes, please kick yourselves in your rape juice canisters. Fuck the neighbors dog and light the house on fire! I'd just as soon drape myself in skin suit made from 3rd world children than be seen drapsing around in Camper Seamar shoes.

 

Blow me in '3, 2, 1...'

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fyi - Chupacobra is reelle :)

 

Hey Snaggle.

 

Just letting you know I didn't just up and leave. Will soon though.

 

previously melb_paul

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Share your sentiment. You can walk into any one if the Camper stores in NYC and there's VOR shit everywhere, posters, shoes, shirts, models, etc.

 

You walk into anyone of the Puma stores and they don't have anything other than a motorcycle jacket with a Ferarri logo on it!?

 

Not saying I want to be fully kitted in Puma gear, but come on put some swag out to promote the sport!!!

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They did a much better job in the last VOR - that's for sure. I'd love to know (from Puma) what their intention is. You don't see their gear in West Marine, anymore, so it would appear they aren't expanding at all and their website lists no products for sailors.

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There is a good range of sailing stuff on the European Puma website but still not really enough. I think they lost a ton of cash on sailing gear last time around and now use the boat just to promote their brand around the world.

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Rumors abound that there is a very big product line launch coming in the US before the end of the Volvo . Given past history, I'm not holding my breath.

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They had some pretty cool post prototype shoes on display in Newport last summer, also got to sneak in on the Laird Hamilton press conference...

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I have a pair of their shorts, padded and reinforced. Really nice and wanted a few more pairs but I cant find them anywhere.

 

Hope they bring back out their sailing line of gear

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There is a good range of sailing stuff on the European Puma website but still not really enough. I think they lost a ton of cash on sailing gear last time around and now use the boat just to promote their brand around the world.

 

Ding, ding, ding. Was always the case.

 

They could care less if people buy PUMA sailing crap.

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There were major distribution problems with the last race that left their whole model for sailing gear in jeopardy. They hope to fix it this time around, but mostly so that the sailing program can defray some of the sponsorship costs. I was told by Puma higher ups in Alicante that the line would be ready by the end of the race, and that Puma were committed to it.

 

Sailing apparel will never make more than a small dent to a company that does billions in sportswear - There are no billions in sailing - just billionaires.

 

but getting gear on AC and VOR and other top sailors combined with the Laird stuff, gives them an awful lot of lifestyle marketing points.

 

 

And it's "They couldn't care less"

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My daughter was in a 420 race in Charleston about a month after CRW last year. We went into west marine and they had tons of Puma stuff on sale 75% off. It seems like decent kit.

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There were major distribution problems with the last race that left their whole model for sailing gear in jeopardy. They hope to fix it this time around, but mostly so that the sailing program can defray some of the sponsorship costs. I was told by Puma higher ups in Alicante that the line would be ready by the end of the race, and that Puma were committed to it.

 

Sailing apparel will never make more than a small dent to a company that does billions in sportswear - There are no billions in sailing - just billionaires.

 

but getting gear on AC and VOR and other top sailors combined with the Laird stuff, gives them an awful lot of lifestyle marketing points.

 

 

And it's "They couldn't care less"

 

You're correct about the 'couldn't'.

 

The other stuff - not so much.

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These guys have some awsome art work on their boat, which would make some awsome looking T-shirts.

 

Someone said its going to be ready for end of the race, makes little to no sense to me.

 

As for camper - i have to agree their prices seem abit over the top. 40£ for a t-shirt 100£ for sun glasses. will sitll end up paying 40£ for the T-shirt i guess

 

*edit*

 

just found some puma clothing on their uk site - 3-3 items that look good.

 

prices are follow

1. shorts - 40£

2. T-shirt - 37£

3. "challanger" shorts 135£

4. "challanger" dry top 175£

 

was also some sailing jackets ranging from 260-450£

 

 

not sure what their challanger range is, inshore racing?

prices seem very over priced.

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There were major distribution problems with the last race that left their whole model for sailing gear in jeopardy. They hope to fix it this time around, but mostly so that the sailing program can defray some of the sponsorship costs. I was told by Puma higher ups in Alicante that the line would be ready by the end of the race, and that Puma were committed to it.

 

Sailing apparel will never make more than a small dent to a company that does billions in sportswear - There are no billions in sailing - just billionaires.

 

but getting gear on AC and VOR and other top sailors combined with the Laird stuff, gives them an awful lot of lifestyle marketing points.

 

 

And it's "They couldn't care less"

 

You're correct about the 'couldn't'.

 

The other stuff - not so much.

 

Then you're calling the Puma USA rep a liar.

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There were major distribution problems with the last race that left their whole model for sailing gear in jeopardy. They hope to fix it this time around, but mostly so that the sailing program can defray some of the sponsorship costs. I was told by Puma higher ups in Alicante that the line would be ready by the end of the race, and that Puma were committed to it.

 

Sailing apparel will never make more than a small dent to a company that does billions in sportswear - There are no billions in sailing - just billionaires.

 

but getting gear on AC and VOR and other top sailors combined with the Laird stuff, gives them an awful lot of lifestyle marketing points.

 

 

And it's "They couldn't care less"

 

You're correct about the 'couldn't'.

 

The other stuff - not so much.

 

Than you're calling the Puma USA rep a liar.

 

Clean, you're refreshing, a lawyer who's obviously NOT a politician (nor PC). I insist on you buying me a drink to that!

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I insist on you buying me a drink to that!

Happy to buy you a drink. Will I recognize you by the faint smell of anti-psychotic medication?

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There were major distribution problems with the last race that left their whole model for sailing gear in jeopardy. They hope to fix it this time around, but mostly so that the sailing program can defray some of the sponsorship costs. I was told by Puma higher ups in Alicante that the line would be ready by the end of the race, and that Puma were committed to it.

 

Sailing apparel will never make more than a small dent to a company that does billions in sportswear - There are no billions in sailing - just billionaires.

 

but getting gear on AC and VOR and other top sailors combined with the Laird stuff, gives them an awful lot of lifestyle marketing points.

 

 

And it's "They couldn't care less"

 

You're correct about the 'couldn't'.

 

The other stuff - not so much.

 

Then you're calling the Puma USA rep a liar.

 

Not really, what someone tells you is generally immaterial.

 

But I did believe his boss.

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I insist on you buying me a drink to that!

Happy to buy you a drink. Will I recognize you by the faint smell of anti-psychotic medication?

 

Fark, Clean forgot to change his tampon today..

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But I did believe his boss.

I'm sure you did. Did you wipe your chin off afterwards?

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I insist on you buying me a drink to that!

Happy to buy you a drink. Will I recognize you by the faint smell of anti-psychotic medication?

 

Fark, Clean forgot to change his tampon today..

 

Naw, I've just been too much of a pussy the past few months. I miss the good ol' days.

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Hahahaha damn jack, you are fucking nuts-o. Classic.

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OK Mizta Klean. Your Big Pimpings convinced me to go online and patronize Worst Marine! I just received their $5 off coupon for chumps willing to part with $300 min.

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But I did believe his boss.

I'm sure you did. Did you wipe your chin off afterwards?

 

Excellent reply.

 

I'm sure that they will now reconsider and buy an ad on the front page.

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But I did believe his boss.

I'm sure you did. Did you wipe your chin off afterwards?

 

Excellent reply.

 

I'm sure that they will now reconsider and buy an ad on the front page.

An dtheye coudente caire lesse.... :)

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right i've been looking online for 2 days now and it looks like puma sailing kit has disappeared. all you can now buy online is some unwanted VOR jackets, t shirts and some oracle kit mostly in womens sizes. the only things i can find are on ebay and i question whether they're fake or not:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Large-Puma-sailing-bib-/281027836286?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416e90797e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-medium-Puma-sailing-bib-/221158944762?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337e19affa

http://www.ebay.com/itm/White-medium-Puma-sailing-OD-spray-top-/221158946708?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item337e19b794

they seem suspiciously cheap. Legit?

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Ok, so I'm seeing this Team Oracle Puma gear that is being whored around in by the AC dudes, and the VOR program is in fully swing. Now why is it that Puma sponsors the shite out of our beloved sport, but does sweet Grannies left tit to get this stuff out there for us to buy. Hell, I can buy some low grade Iranian plutonium easier than I can a fucking Puma AC jacket. As for their VOR swag, maybe I'll pass. That gear they had out the past go around wasn't worth wrapping up a dead hooker in. Granted, the clown boots were pretty comfy, but the monkey shit brown ones were rather sparse.

 

Does anyone know if these merchants of mythological apparel are going to release any sailing gear onto the North American Continent?

 

Camper, you're doing a wonderful job in comparison... However, $170 for some deck shoes, please kick yourselves in your rape juice canisters. Fuck the neighbors dog and light the house on fire! I'd just as soon drape myself in skin suit made from 3rd world children than be seen drapsing around in Camper Seamar shoes.

 

Blow me in '3, 2, 1...'

 

Has to be the best rant I have read in a while! Classic!

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There were major distribution problems with the last race that left their whole model for sailing gear in jeopardy. They hope to fix it this time around, but mostly so that the sailing program can defray some of the sponsorship costs. I was told by Puma higher ups in Alicante that the line would be ready by the end of the race, and that Puma were committed to it.

 

Sailing apparel will never make more than a small dent to a company that does billions in sportswear - There are no billions in sailing - just billionaires.

 

but getting gear on AC and VOR and other top sailors combined with the Laird stuff, gives them an awful lot of lifestyle marketing points.

 

 

And it's "They couldn't care less"

Maybe that's why they finished where they did!

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My kid and I went to the Puma store at the currently under construction AC venue at Pier # something in SF over Thanksgiving weekend. The little store was manned by non-sailors and we bought an overpriced T for the boy. They did have some cool stuff - but I dont work in that pay grade. I tried to steal the Laird carbon racing paddleboard - the sales people were not amused.

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My kid and I went to the Puma store at the currently under construction AC venue at Pier # something in SF over Thanksgiving weekend. The little store was manned by non-sailors and we bought an overpriced T for the boy. They did have some cool stuff - but I dont work in that pay grade. I tried to steal the Laird carbon racing paddleboard - the sales people were not amused.

 

That paddleboard design sucks can't believe laird is associated with it.

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My kid and I went to the Puma store at the currently under construction AC venue at Pier # something in SF over Thanksgiving weekend. The little store was manned by non-sailors and we bought an overpriced T for the boy. They did have some cool stuff - but I dont work in that pay grade. I tried to steal the Laird carbon racing paddleboard - the sales people were not amused.

 

 

That paddleboard design sucks can't believe laird is associated with it.

 

 

The paddleboard is a Juan K design (not a joke)

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It may be they just dont want random foul-mouthed dorks wearing their sailing gear?

 

All kidding aside, I got a free pair of Puma sailing sneakers from someone at Puma USA.

Label says: "Engineering Stage"

They have been really great. Would love to replace them.

 

They do sell driving shoes, which are pretty damn specific. The number of weekend-track-day racers & pro race car drivers can't be that different from the amount of sailors. There are probably many MORE sailors actually.

Someone have Jochen Zeit's phone number? ... he's a nice dude btw.

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They do sell driving shoes, which are pretty damn specific. The number of weekend-track-day racers & pro race car drivers can't be that different from the amount of sailors.

 

Funny you should mention that. I fell into the same trap a few months ago when I went to my local Puma retailer to check and see if they had any sailing related attire, perhaps some VOR stuff. When that elicited dumbfound looks from the sales staff, I shifted gears and mentioned AC paraphernalia. That didn't get me any farther. Not trying to sound like an asshole, I casually mentioned that there was a silly little sailboat race about a day's drive south of here in that tiny little unknown suburb north of LA called San Francisco that seems to have the rest of the world quite enraptured.

Still nothing.

Ironically, like you, I did notice that there were several racing shoe options on the shelves. I say ironically because only eight short years earlier I went walking into the same store asking for, you guessed it, racing shoes. And they had nada. The responses from the staff back then were eerily similar to today's, making this visit like a bad episode of the Twilight Zone. So I figure, hell, if I go back in another eight years...

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