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Clipper 'rescue' underway

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Steering broken and at least 3 injured. Beyond shore helo range, so helo doing are fueling on a USCG cutter helo pad. Rescue parajumper tried to jump from C130 but weather was too bad for jump to proceed. You have got to be impressed by the USCG capabilities. My best wishes to all involved.

 

http://www.clipperro...e-news?item=594

 

Weather roughly at the time of the incident. "X" roughly at the location. That's an intense crush zone with 50kt sustained wind flags, with gusts to 65kts.

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Just saw that story. Jeez - sounds like it was a bad wave to cause that much damage.

 

"We were racing along in 40-60 knot gusts," the boat's skipper Juan Coetzer said. "The sea was alive with rage. We were making good speed, sailing with the third reef in the main, surfing at 15 to 20 knots. Then at our watch change, just before the sun came up, a monstrous foaming swell broke over our stern."

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"U.S. Coast Guard crews were waiting for the weather to improve before sending a helicopter to take three sailors injured in a storm from a yacht about 400 miles off the California coast, a Coast Guard spokesman said Sunday.The Coast Guard cutter Bertholf with a helicopter on board was within range of the yacht, but could not send a rescue crew to the stricken vessel because of the weather conditions, Coast Guard Petty Officer Caleb Critchfield said early Sunday afternoon." Washington post

 

 

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"Two of the four injured sailors on the yacht Geraldton Western Australia have been rescued by the US Coast Guard. The other two injured crew are likely to remain on the boat until it docks in San Francisco Bay in the next two days. Initially the Coast Guard had planned to airlift the injured crew to the cutter by helicopter, but it was decided the yacht's mast and rigging were too much of a hazard and they were transferred by boat instead" BBCnews

 

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Thanks USCG for a proffesional rescue and helping out an Aussie boat.

 

We have done our share of ocean rescues, nice to see someone else take a turn. :D

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Thanks USCG for a proffesional rescue and helping out an Aussie boat.

 

We have done our share of ocean rescues, nice to see someone else take a turn. :D

Not an Aussie boat. Only 1 Aussie on board. They have finished now - in port.

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Boat with the Aussie name paid for by an Aussie town looking for some publicity... I think that makes it an 'Aussie boat' regardless of how many Aussies are on it.

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Boat with the Aussie name paid for by an Aussie town looking for some publicity... I think that makes it an 'Aussie boat' regardless of how many Aussies are on it.

Please yourself. Don't google the Clipper RTW site. You might find some facts.

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Boat with the Aussie name paid for by an Aussie town looking for some publicity... I think that makes it an 'Aussie boat' regardless of how many Aussies are on it.

Please yourself. Don't google the Clipper RTW site. You might find some facts.

 

Your being a bit pedantic JS.

Sure its owned by Clipper and it seems its registered name is CV6, but for all intents and purposes, its Geraldton WA.

I'm sure the city fathers would rather it be known as an Aussie boat than CV6. They would have spent a lot of money getting that name on the side.

 

Boats in the Syd-Hob change names to reflect the sponsor all the time.

No one complains about that.

Same thing different race.

 

We will take the Gold Coast boat as being ours as its winning, so equally so we will take Geraldton as ours.

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Boat with the Aussie name paid for by an Aussie town looking for some publicity... I think that makes it an 'Aussie boat' regardless of how many Aussies are on it.

Please yourself. Don't google the Clipper RTW site. You might find some facts.

 

Your being a bit pedantic JS.

Sure its owned by Clipper and it seems its registered name is CV6, but for all intents and purposes, its Geraldton WA.

I'm sure the city fathers would rather it be known as an Aussie boat than CV6. They would have spent a lot of money getting that name on the side.

 

Boats in the Syd-Hob change names to reflect the sponsor all the time.

No one complains about that.

Same thing different race.

 

We will take the Gold Coast boat as being ours as its winning, so equally so we will take Geraldton as ours.

If it suits you to believe that, then go ahead.

 

Reality is, it's a commercial operation. The various places paid money for naming rights. The boats are no more Australian than Queen Elizabeth is.

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Still beleive in the comparison between Volvo pro's and "pay as you go" Johnny?

 

 

 

Boat with the Aussie name paid for by an Aussie town looking for some publicity... I think that makes it an 'Aussie boat' regardless of how many Aussies are on it.

Please yourself. Don't google the Clipper RTW site. You might find some facts.

 

Your being a bit pedantic JS.

Sure its owned by Clipper and it seems its registered name is CV6, but for all intents and purposes, its Geraldton WA.

I'm sure the city fathers would rather it be known as an Aussie boat than CV6. They would have spent a lot of money getting that name on the side.

 

Boats in the Syd-Hob change names to reflect the sponsor all the time.

No one complains about that.

Same thing different race.

 

We will take the Gold Coast boat as being ours as its winning, so equally so we will take Geraldton as ours.

If it suits you to believe that, then go ahead.

 

Reality is, it's a commercial operation. The various places paid money for naming rights. The boats are no more Australian than Queen Elizabeth is.

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Still beleive in the comparison between Volvo pro's and "pay as you go" Johnny?

 

 

 

Boat with the Aussie name paid for by an Aussie town looking for some publicity... I think that makes it an 'Aussie boat' regardless of how many Aussies are on it.

Please yourself. Don't google the Clipper RTW site. You might find some facts.

 

Your being a bit pedantic JS.

Sure its owned by Clipper and it seems its registered name is CV6, but for all intents and purposes, its Geraldton WA.

I'm sure the city fathers would rather it be known as an Aussie boat than CV6. They would have spent a lot of money getting that name on the side.

 

Boats in the Syd-Hob change names to reflect the sponsor all the time.

No one complains about that.

Same thing different race.

 

We will take the Gold Coast boat as being ours as its winning, so equally so we will take Geraldton as ours.

If it suits you to believe that, then go ahead.

 

Reality is, it's a commercial operation. The various places paid money for naming rights. The boats are no more Australian than Queen Elizabeth is.

 

Maybe even more so now Thetruth, after all Puma are the 'American' boat. Camper Team OZ? Basically they are all running on the same model...whoever pays the bucks claims the boat.

Although I think you were aiming the comment at seamanship maybe?

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I actually think the Clipper event has done more for people and sailing than the Volvo and AC combined.

 

 

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I actually think the Clipper event has done more for people and sailing than the Volvo and AC combined.

If you can afford it.

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