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The door closed on the first phase of the American Youth Sailing Force training program this past weekend with the final two days of AC45 training provided by Oracle Team USA.

 

With OTUSA’s withdrawal of support, the team is on its own for next phase of training. The Force will be relying exclusively on the SL33 and a new physical fitness program to prepare ourselves for the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup.

 

This is new news probably for most people here, but Oracle Team USA has shut down its Youth AC program. Our team (The Force) is now operating independently from now through September 4th.

 

I hope you guys enjoy this tongue and cheek movie production, it's us making the best of a less then ideal situation.

 

:D ..very well done. Sorry to hear you're homeless: hope something comes along for your team. In the meantime, why don't you ask Dalton to let you run the Big Cat Bar?

 

Serious question: with OTUSA withdrawing their support, what are you doing for a boat!? Haven't been following the Red Bull YAC at all...

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DId you catch the OR branded broken bits in the background of a couple of scenes? This is weird. What's the backstory?

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The door closed on the first phase of the American Youth Sailing Force training program this past weekend with the final two days of AC45 training provided by Oracle Team USA.

 

With OTUSA’s withdrawal of support, the team is on its own for next phase of training. The Force will be relying exclusively on the SL33 and a new physical fitness program to prepare ourselves for the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup.

 

This is new news probably for most people here, but Oracle Team USA has shut down its Youth AC program. Our team (The Force) is now operating independently from now through September 4th.

 

I hope you guys enjoy this tongue and cheek movie production, it's us making the best of a less then ideal situation.

 

:D ..very well done. Sorry to hear you're homeless: hope something comes along for your team. In the meantime, why don't you ask Dalton to let you run the Big Cat Bar?

 

Serious question: with OTUSA withdrawing their support, what are you doing for a boat!? Haven't been following the Red Bull YAC at all...

Local SL33-

 

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The door closed on the first phase of the American Youth Sailing Force training program this past weekend with the final two days of AC45 training provided by Oracle Team USA.

 

With OTUSA’s withdrawal of support, the team is on its own for next phase of training. The Force will be relying exclusively on the SL33 and a new physical fitness program to prepare ourselves for the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup.

 

This is new news probably for most people here, but Oracle Team USA has shut down its Youth AC program. Our team (The Force) is now operating independently from now through September 4th.

 

I hope you guys enjoy this tongue and cheek movie production, it's us making the best of a less then ideal situation.

 

:D ..very well done. Sorry to hear you're homeless: hope something comes along for your team. In the meantime, why don't you ask Dalton to let you run the Big Cat Bar?

 

Serious question: with OTUSA withdrawing their support, what are you doing for a boat!? Haven't been following the Red Bull YAC at all...

Local SL33-

 

Thanks. I've said from the start that the SL-33 would be an ideal boat for the Red Bull YAC.

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Local SL33-

 

Thanks. I've said from the start that the SL-33 would be an ideal boat for the Red Bull YAC.

Yup- and upgrade able to t foil rudders and a wing- great feeder to AC45. (and conveniently beats the surrogate rule :rolleyes: )

 

and a great feeder to SL 33 http://vimeo.com/49228830

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Bwaaaa! :P:D:lol:

Some good 'Oracle style' bonding moves at the end there I'm sure.

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The door closed on the first phase of the American Youth Sailing Force training program this past weekend with the final two days of AC45 training provided by Oracle Team USA.

 

With OTUSA’s withdrawal of support, the team is on its own for next phase of training. The Force will be relying exclusively on the SL33 and a new physical fitness program to prepare ourselves for the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup.

 

This is new news probably for most people here, but Oracle Team USA has shut down its Youth AC program. Our team (The Force) is now operating independently from now through September 4th.

 

I hope you guys enjoy this tongue and cheek movie production, it's us making the best of a less then ideal situation.

 

 

 

Don't worry boys it might be the best thing that happened to you. Here is a clip of the skipper of one of your competitors doing his training:

 

Great minds think alike!

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We appreciate the thought. Our team is holding strong with lots of internal and external support. It is always terrible to be in a position where you lose someone's life just on the other side of a piece of glass. There was nothing any of us could have done better to save the poor lady's life but I think we will always hold it to ourselves as a failure. I will never forget that feeling of losing,

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We appreciate the thought. Our team is holding strong with lots of internal and external support. It is always terrible to be in a position where you lose someone's life just on the other side of a piece of glass. There was nothing any of us could have done better to save the poor lady's life but I think we will always hold it to ourselves as a failure. I will never forget that feeling of losing,

 

You guys did what you could and should be proud of your efforts in reacting so quickly.

 

Know you did the best you could and move on knowing so.

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We appreciate the thought. Our team is holding strong with lots of internal and external support. It is always terrible to be in a position where you lose someone's life just on the other side of a piece of glass. There was nothing any of us could have done better to save the poor lady's life but I think we will always hold it to ourselves as a failure. I will never forget that feeling of losing,

YOU DID NOT FAIL ! (first time I use all caps on SA)

The situation simply did not allow you to safe her; shit happens.

It could have played out in a thousand different ways, but that was not in your control.

 

You did what you could and more than what 99.9% of the population could or would have done.

You would only have failed if you had not tried.

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+1000

 

It's a real story of true heroism. My deepest respect to that rescue effort.

 

I misplaced the video link of the newscast but what got shown was both gritty and gripping. edit, link is in Ian's post above; someone with a real keyboard should honor him with a thread, it's more than deserving of it

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Ian, I am truly impressed with your team. You do indeed exhibit a strong sense of team in that you all could so quickly move together from watching this unfold to taking action. An incredible and heroic feat, in extremely cold water at a moments notice.

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I appreciate everyone's support. The team is holding up well and pushing forward as strong as ever. Here's our latest video installment of our team's training on the AC45s to hopefully put things back on a lighter note.

 

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I was so impressed seeing the footage of your team trying to save that woman in her van in SF Bay last week. I've also heard your team could really use more contributions so I found your website and sent you a donation. You guys really deserve it. Enjoying the team videos and got a kick out of the exercise and Sailstice ones.

 

http://americanyouthsailingforce.com/?page_id=621

 

I've included the link to the donation page in case anyone else wants to contribute too. Good kids.

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The Force takes part in a top secret boat building competition and comes out victorious! Hope you guys enjoy this fun take on a plywood boat building contest and one Youth AC team's battle against better funded and more experienced teams.

(its sort of a cheaper, knockoff version of The Wind Gods)

 

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This thread has been quiet for a while despite it covering what will almost certainly be the most exciting sailing we are going to see in winged cats this summer.

 

Here is a story from the NZ Herald: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/yachting/news/article.cfm?c_id=106&objectid=10904365&ref=rss

 

Also does anyone want to make a prediction on which team will come out on top?

 

I will go for FMJ from NZ as they showed Team Tilt the way over the weekend in Portugal and have had more experience this year at the top level than the other you teams.

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The young guns are getting ready in San Francisco

August 8, 2013

 

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Today is the first day of the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup. Although racing doesn’t start until September 1, today the teams meet at the America’s Cup facilities on the waterfront for orientation sessions. The 10 youth teams, from eight countries, will be given their AC45s on Monday.

In the preview clip below, we introduce you to the teams as well as the excitement that is unfolding leading into the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup.

 

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Interesting in one of the photos above there is alot of variation in jib cuts. And in the others they are all the same RB jibs. I presume the former are just training jibs left over from earlier development.

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PS all those identical bows in going to make judging the start breaks pretty tricky !!

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Red Bull Youth America’s Cup schedule (8 fleet races)

  • Sunday, Sept. 1: Fleet Races 1 and 2 (11:00 am PT)
  • Monday, Sept. 2: Fleet Races 3 and 4 (11:00 am PT)
  • Tuesday, Sept. 3: Fleet Races 5 and 6 (11:00 am PT)
  • Wednesday, Sept. 4: Fleet Races 7 and 8 (11:00 am PT)

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PS all those identical bows in going to make judging the start breaks pretty tricky !!

 

Liveline + a few blue lights

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Red Bull Youth America's Cup: Practice Begins, 12 Aug 2013



Red Bull Youth America's Cup: Up Close Practice Slideshow, 14 Aug 2013



Red Bull Youth America's Cup: Up Close Practice Video, 14 Aug 2013



Red Bull Youth America's Cup: Practice Races, 25 Aug 2013



Red Bull Youth America's Cup: Practice Race, 26 Aug 2013

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^ Wow!

 

6 days...

 

Young guns fired up for the Red Bull Youth America’s Cup August 26, 2013

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With the September Showdown between ORACLE TEAM USA and Emirates Team New Zealand now set, attention turns to the 10 Red Bull Youth America’s Cup teams who are hard at work with final training ahead of their racing, September 1-4.

The Red Bull Youth America’s Cup features 10 of the best young sailing teams on the planet competing in a fleet race series on the same AC45 wing sail catamarans the America’s Cup teams used over the past two years.

The competition kicks off on September 1st and features four days of fleet racing. The champion crowned on September 4th will have proven their mettle against the best in the world, in the spotlight of the San Francisco America’s Cup.

 

http://www.americascup.com/en/news/3/news/17683/young-guns-fired-up-for-the-red-bull-youth-americas-cup

 

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Red Bull Youth America’s Cup schedule (8 fleet races)

  • Sunday, Sept. 1: Fleet Races 1 and 2 (11:00 am PT)
  • Monday, Sept. 2: Fleet Races 3 and 4 (11:00 am PT)
  • Tuesday, Sept. 3: Fleet Races 5 and 6 (11:00 am PT)
  • Wednesday, Sept. 4: Fleet Races 7 and 8 (11:00 am PT)

Where will these be broadcast?

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^^

Ummmm

Looks like Germany hits the mark at 3:45 and then Switzerland drags if off at 3:55 :lol:

last video

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Red Bull Youth America’s Cup schedule (8 fleet races)

  • Sunday, Sept. 1: Fleet Races 1 and 2 (11:00 am PT)
  • Monday, Sept. 2: Fleet Races 3 and 4 (11:00 am PT)
  • Tuesday, Sept. 3: Fleet Races 5 and 6 (11:00 am PT)
  • Wednesday, Sept. 4: Fleet Races 7 and 8 (11:00 am PT)

Where will these be broadcast?

 

http://www.redbull.com/en

 

But I think that's 11 a.m. MST:

 

Tune in to redbull.com from 11am (MST) on Sunday, September 1, to see the sails unfurled on the AC45s – and the beginning of a new era in the sport.

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Ummmm

Looks like Germany hits the mark at 3:45 and then Switzerland drags if off at 3:55 :lol:

last video

 

I missed it! Working under severe time pressure, and the video window I use when narrating is small, but still -- I should have picked that up! Especially when the mark wasn't in the same place for the following boats. I'll have to redo the narration (and get more sleep). :D

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ahhh Navas...cut yourself some slack my friend

you have been the hero of this cup

to show that it does not have to be all flash

just common sense

 

thank you

thank you

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Two NZL boats very impressive in first race, finishing 1-2, followed by AUS.

Awesome results. Kiwis can fly? Comments?

Cheers and thanks for great updates John. Lookforward to your vids always.

K

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Here is some on-board video from FMJ Racing

Hahahaha jus love it. Go the boys x 2. Great sailing so far.

Cheers

K

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Peter Burling will take this with ease.................probably the best racing we will see on this cycle of the AC

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Meet the crews! (More to come!)

Leave it to sail world to send a pre-flintstone to interview the kids.

 

Leave it to Sail-World to actually cover the event, with a highly-qualified crew, instead of largely ignoring it like other media outlets. Teams are thrilled. But hey, if you know better interviewers who are ready, willing and able to actually do a better job, then by all means send them to Sail-World. ;)

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Chuck was fine and you might say the age difference helps to hilite how young these guys are. Watched all three, look forward to the rest.

 

Will be interesting to see if any teams can set themselves apart with consistency. I think they will all be gunning hard, am glad it will be covered live too.

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Peter Burling will take this with ease.................probably the best racing we will see on this cycle of the AC

 

Agree this will probably be the best racing of this AC cycle, but while NZL Sailing Team (Peter) has a good shot at winning, they will have to sail very well to do it, because there are other very good teams here as well. May the best team win!

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Meet the crews! (More to come!)

Leave it to sail world to send a pre-flintstone to interview the kids.

Leave it to Sail-World to actually cover the event, with a highly-qualified crew, instead of largely ignoring it like other media outlets. Teams are thrilled. But hey, if you know better interviewers who are ready, willing and able to actually do a better job, then by all means send them to Sail-World. ;)

Key line from you: "instead of largely ignoring it like other media"

 

Doesn't that sort of tell us all we need to know about this event? There is no context. It's just another Red Bull stunt. Pretty pictures and will probably be fun to watch a race or two but it hardly matters.

 

As far as helping Snail World not going to happen.

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Meet the crews! (More to come!)

Leave it to sail world to send a pre-flintstone to interview the kids.

Leave it to Sail-World to actually cover the event, with a highly-qualified crew, instead of largely ignoring it like other media outlets. Teams are thrilled. But hey, if you know better interviewers who are ready, willing and able to actually do a better job, then by all means send them to Sail-World. ;)

Key line from you: "instead of largely ignoring it like other media"

Doesn't that sort of tell us all we need to know about this event? ...

 

I sure don't think so. These are some of the very best young sailors in the world, competing in extraordinary high-performance cats that have been very closely matched. It's a great opportunity, which is why they've worked so hard to get here, and Red Bull deserves credit for supporting the event. My $0.02. ;)

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Meet the crews! (More to come!)

Leave it to sail world to send a pre-flintstone to interview the kids.

 

Leave it to Sail-World to actually cover the event, with a highly-qualified crew, instead of largely ignoring it like other media outlets. Teams are thrilled. But hey, if you know better interviewers who are ready, willing and able to actually do a better job, then by all means send them to Sail-World. ;)

Another tick in the box for the 'summer of fuc#ups'.

I went looking for a crew list on the Americas Cup website - nada.

Does anyone know where one might be hiding?

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Meet the crews! (More to come!)

Leave it to sail world to send a pre-flintstone to interview the kids.

 

Leave it to Sail-World to actually cover the event, with a highly-qualified crew, instead of largely ignoring it like other media outlets. Teams are thrilled. But hey, if you know better interviewers who are ready, willing and able to actually do a better job, then by all means send them to Sail-World. ;)

why is that highly qualified crew reading during the answers?

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Meet the crews! (More to come!)

Leave it to sail world to send a pre-flintstone to interview the kids.

 

Leave it to Sail-World to actually cover the event, with a highly-qualified crew, instead of largely ignoring it like other media outlets. Teams are thrilled. But hey, if you know better interviewers who are ready, willing and able to actually do a better job, then by all means send them to Sail-World. ;)

why is that highly qualified crew reading during the answers?

Keeping up with the latest news on SA AC like all the other journos?

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Another tick in the box for the 'summer of fuc#ups'.

I went looking for a crew list on the Americas Cup website - nada.

Does anyone know where one might be hiding?

 

RBYAC: http://mediacenter.americascup.com/press-kit-2/red-bull-youth-americas-cup/

AC72: http://mediacenter.americascup.com/crew-list/

Cheers John

I find it very odd in this day and age that that information isn't put on a web page.

Thanks again.

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Meet the crews! (More to come!)

 

 

 

Leave it to sail world to send a pre-flintstone to interview the kids.

 

My oh my! Aren't we a sourpuss.

 

OK, Chuck is no hot young interviewer chick but I for one am very grateful that RG, Chuck, John Navas and others are brining us this coverage.

 

I have the impression that having let the raging Red Bull loose, ACEA is now trying to achieve some separation between the kids and the match proper by minimising official coverage.

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Meet the crews! (More to come!)

 

 

 

Leave it to sail world to send a pre-flintstone to interview the kids.

My oh my! Aren't we a sourpuss.

 

OK, Chuck is no hot young interviewer chick but I for one am very grateful that RG, Chuck, John Navas and others are brining us this coverage.

 

I have the impression that having let the raging Red Bull loose, ACEA is now trying to achieve some separation between the kids and the match proper by minimising official coverage.

ACEA probably just let sail world use the press center and will do their own thing when they want to.

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Meet the crews! (More to come!)

Leave it to sail world to send a pre-flintstone to interview the kids.

The Peter Burling interview was interesting: good questions and well thought out answers. The age of the interviewer shouldn't matter. In fact, older sailors who have some vision for the future are going to support the RBYAC and Chuck is an example many posters on this forum could learn from.

 

The RBYAC has top international sailors in multiple classes like Burling, guys who have switched from monohull Match racing to catamarans like Will Tiller, and top young multihull sailors like Jason Waterhouse. I hope the regatta goes well and encourages more young sailors to get involved.

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Does anyone know if the RBYAC will be streamed live on YT? Tried to find it but as YouTube does an excellent job hiding stuff I might have missed it it. Link anyone?

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Nice of the Red Bull signage people to redesign the Kiwi flag for them. Can you image how apeshit much of the US population would have been if the flag on USA 2 had the stars changed to help make the two boats look different.

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Races 1 & 2 (more added here as I shoot them):

 

 

Thanks, John.

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interesting how far fwd they are hiking

 

17.00 portuguese team hiking out 2 guys fwd of the main beam

 

18.57 usa1 has 2 waaay fwd

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Nice of the Red Bull signage people to redesign the Kiwi flag for them. Can you image how apeshit much of the US population would have been if the flag on USA 2 had the stars changed to help make the two boats look different.

 

Do you mean the missing white behind the red stars on NZL1?

 

 

Or are you looking at the Ozzie flag?! ;)

 

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stars are too high on both flags

 

they've been compressed down to their important visual elements :)

 

fmj with 3 fwd of the main beam in race 3

 

even at 45' these boats are behaving more like 16' beachcats than the ac72s

 

and changing boat trim by moving meat

 

is quite different for the up, down and reaching legs

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am really hoping they dont do that silly "super sunday" extra points final day. makes a joke of consistency

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am really hoping they dont do that silly "super sunday" extra points final day. makes a joke of consistency

Whoops. Too late.

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Objective Australia Gennaker problem in Race 4:

'Oh...not again', is right. Tough break for the Aussies. They had that one in the bag too.

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I'm talking about the white outlines on the stars, compare the two kiwi flags. They're different.

You must surely be an Australian!

One is a kiwi flag one is aussie. Were you educated elsewhere or maybe selfschooled.

OMG!!!!

Cheers and hard luck to the aussie battlers in the ACworlds.

K

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^

 

not to be too anal in flag anarchy but

 

he's right

 

you're wrong

 

scroll up a bit to the 2 pics above, not the videos

 

NLZ 2 has red stars white outline - correct

 

NZL1 has red stars with no white outline - incorrect

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Shame the RBYAC has been overshadowed by the big boy cheating stuff.

 

Great racing today, again.

 

Both Kiwi teams looking strong, with two races to go.

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Any coverage for races 5 and 6, John?

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Any coverage for races 5 and 6, John?

 

Yes, but delayed because of AC commitments and the cheating scandal --

I was shooting interviews at ETNZ late yesterday, including Glenn Ashby.

Apologies.

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That was a pretty anticlimactic way to end the Youth AC. I agree with the guys in the booth that these kids are clearly skilled enough to sail in these conditions.

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The wind limit seemed to be written in stone and therefore no chance for the second race.

Not matter what the TV Stations around the world wanted to transmit...

And the winner is the "powered by ETNZ team" skippered by Peter Burling, NZ

Congrats!

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To wrap up...

 

 

"First annual RBYAC" - ?? :o

 

 

1 NZL Sailing with ETNZ 2 9 RDG 9 7 4 3 8 1 10 1 10 4 7 57

 

2 Full Metal Jacket Racing 7 4 1 10 4 7 6 5 6 5 3 8 5 6 45

 

3 ROFF/Cascais Sailing Team 3 8 6 5 1 10 8 3 8 3 5 6 2 9 44

 

4 Team Tilt 8 3 5 6 2 9 2 9 9 2 7 4 1 10 43

 

5 American Youth Sailing Force 1 10 7 4 3 8 5 6 7 4 4 7 8 3 42

 

6 Swedish Youth Challenge 6 5 2 9 9 2 1 10 4 7 6 5 10 1 39

 

7 Objective Australia RDG 5 10 1 6 5 10 1 2 9 2 9 3 8 38

 

8 Next World Energy 4 7 4 7 8 3 4 7 5 6 9 2 6 5 37

 

9 All In Racing 5 6 8 3 5 6 9 2 3 8 8 3 9 2 30

 

10 USA45 Racing 9 2 9 2 10 1 7 4 10 1 10 1 7 4 15

 

 

"Kids" - Pfft!

 

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The Red Bull Youth America’s Cup provided thrills, spills and plenty of action over four days of intense competition on San Francisco Bay. On Wednesday, the New Zealand Sailing Team with Emirates Team New Zealand recovered from a poor start to beat their fierce rivals on Full Metal Jacket (NZL) and the ROFF/Cascais Sailing Team from Portugal to win the inaugural title.

 

The leaderboard was tight, leading to tense moments on the final day. Just three points separated second from fifth place. When the Swiss Team TILT won race 7, they became the sixth different team to claim a race win in the regatta.

 

Race 8 – which was to score double points – was cancelled with the winds on San Francisco Bay over the limit.

 

 

Red Bull Youth America’s Cup – Provisional Standings
1. NZL Sailing Team with Emirates Team New Zealand (NZL) 2-RDG-7-3-1-1-4 – 57 points
2. Full Metal Jacket Racing (NZL) 7-1-4-6-6-3-5 – 45 points
3. ROFF/Cascais Sailing Team (POR) 3-6-1-8-8-5-2 – 44 points
4. Team TILT (SUI) 8-5-2-2-9-7-1 – 43 points
5. American Youth Sailing Force (USA) 1-7-3-5-7-4-8 – 42 points
6. Swedish Youth Challenge (SWE) 6-2-9-1-4-6-10 – 39 points
7. Objective Australia (AUS) RDG-10-6-10-2-3 – 38 points
8. Next World Energy (FRA) 4-4-8-4-5-9-6 – 37 points
9. All In Racing (GER) 5-8-5-9-3-8-9 – 30 points
10. USA45 Racing (USA) 9-9-10-7-10-10-7 – 15 points
(RDG = redress awarded by International Jury)

 

http://www.americascup.com/en/news/3/news/17918/final-fight-to-the-finish-at-red-bull-youth-americas-cup

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Very much a shame to have cut off that last race. Had they waited all of maybe 10 min's more, the wind would have been within limits. But I guess they had to get practice racing going for ORTUSA B1 and B2. Priorities you know!

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Nice work for the Kiwis. 1 and 2 in RBYAC.

 

What's with the wind limits?

 

What a fuck up these San Francisco regattas are.

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Very much a shame to have cut off that last race. Had they waited all of maybe 10 min's more, the wind would have been within limits. But I guess they had to get practice racing going for ORTUSA B1 and B2. Priorities you know!

Uhm, no. On SF Bay at noon waiting for less wind is simply pointless.

Todays data:

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Stupid, clueless wind limit.

The boys were easily capable to sail up to 22kn, especially when its not ebbing hard.

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