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Il Mostro on the Hudson?

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Stopped by the Intrepid Museum to watch the Enterprise flyby on April 27th, 2012 and caught this little lovely sneaking up the Hudson. The ID is just a guess.

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Definitely Il Mostro.

 

Maybe they are taking the boat through the Erie canal for the freshwater season?

 

Joe

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Definitely Il Mostro.

 

Maybe they are taking the boat through the Erie canal for the freshwater season?

 

Joe

 

That is correct she is in the Erie canal right now heading towards the lakes

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On second look... what the fuck is that outboard doing on the transom?! I think we need a caption contest...

 

I'll go first: "New design suggestions by Juan K for enhanced light air performance"

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And what's the structure build of 2" x 4" between the daggerboards? Have they pulled the pin and lifted the keel? Doesn't really look beefy enough for that application ... hmmmm

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I did that trip years ago on a motorboat- Very cool trip but I remember parts of the canal being on the shallow side...

 

Is it possible that the keel is on a truck? Can you motor a boat like that around without it?

 

I reckon the outboard is for maneuvering- a stern-thruster type of arrangement.

 

SERGE

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On second look... what the fuck is that outboard doing on the transom?! I think we need a caption contest...

 

I'll go first: "New design suggestions by Juan K for enhanced light air performance"

 

If the outboard is there as a backup, it's a very bad advertisement for Volvo engines...

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And what's the structure build of 2" x 4" between the daggerboards? Have they pulled the pin and lifted the keel? Doesn't really look beefy enough for that application ... hmmmm

Board raisers.

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The second engine is probably to compensate the loss of steerage of having no keel. This will prove very helpful while in the canal and going through some of those locks.

 

Joe

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Would she be heading all the way up the canal through Rochester? I've GOT to see that thing when she comes through!!! Too bad there's not a tracker on it so I know when it's close.

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Would she be heading all the way up the canal through Rochester? I've GOT to see that thing when she comes through!!! Too bad there's not a tracker on it so I know when it's close.

She might have AIS running.

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Wonder how much she draws with the keel canted?

Much the same I'd have thought; without a rig, you're going to be canting the hull rather than the keel...

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Wonder how much she draws with the keel canted?

Much the same I'd have thought; without a rig, you're going to be canting the hull rather than the keel...

 

 

Keel was removed the daggerboards are therebto help with stability and to try and stop her going sideways .

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Wonder how much she draws with the keel canted?

Much the same I'd have thought; without a rig, you're going to be canting the hull rather than the keel...

 

 

Keel was removed the daggerboards are therebto help with stability and to try and stop her going sideways .

 

If you can afford a boat like that I would think you could afford to truck her from RI to IL or MI; wherever she is going.

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I am no expert but I doubt that is an easy boat to truck. Looks a little wide to me.

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Wonder how much she draws with the keel canted?

Much the same I'd have thought; without a rig, you're going to be canting the hull rather than the keel...

 

 

Keel was removed the daggerboards are therebto help with stability and to try and stop her going sideways .

 

If you can afford a boat like that I would think you could afford to truck her from RI to IL or MI; wherever she is going.

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Keel was removed the daggerboards are therebto help with stability and to try and stop her going sideways .

If you can afford a boat like that I would think you could afford to truck her from RI to IL or MI; wherever she is going.

Why would you? Boats fall off trucks, light poles get taken out, insurance may or may not be available, you need wide / long load permits and escorts, and probably a bunch of other stuff. Plus your already paid for crew has to do stuff they don't know much about. This way, you have smart boat people doing smart boat people things.

 

Sounds like a fun delivery.

 

Koukel

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Cheaper and probably logistically easier to get it to Torreson's this way. With all the other crap believe it or not it will end up taking about the same about of time! Just ask Brian. There's no real rush for Thornton to get the thing the Chicago anyhow. I would assume they are going to do both Macs?

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Cheaper and probably logistically easier to get it to Torreson's this way. With all the other crap believe it or not it will end up taking about the same about of time! Just ask Brian. There's no real rush for Thornton to get the thing the Chicago anyhow. I would assume they are going to do both Macs?

 

Boat is going to Eldeans .

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Cheaper and probably logistically easier to get it to Torreson's this way. With all the other crap believe it or not it will end up taking about the same about of time! Just ask Brian. There's no real rush for Thornton to get the thing the Chicago anyhow. I would assume they are going to do both Macs?

 

Boat is going to Eldeans .

 

No water issue with Eldeans? Even so its still easier for Pete to have it go on its bottom

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That's awesome, did some sailing on lake Erie two years back, the sailing on freshwater is a fairly...surreal experience

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If anyone gets a hi-res shot of her in that config, please send it to me! Clean@sailinganarchy dot com

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On second look... what the fuck is that outboard doing on the transom?! I think we need a caption contest...

 

I'll go first: "New design suggestions by Juan K for enhanced light air performance"

 

If the outboard is there as a backup, it's a very bad advertisement for Volvo engines...

 

 

Good for Volvo, Bad for BERG...

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The second engine is probably to compensate the loss of steerage of having no keel. This will prove very helpful while in the canal and going through some of those locks.

 

Joe

They still have the daggerboards.

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The second engine is probably to compensate the loss of steerage of having no keel. This will prove very helpful while in the canal and going through some of those locks.

 

Joe

They still have the daggerboards.

 

Then maybe its to act as a thruster when maneuvering in the canal and the locks?

 

Joe

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And what's the structure build of 2" x 4" between the daggerboards? Have they pulled the pin and lifted the keel? Doesn't really look beefy enough for that application ... hmmmm

 

May as well take the keel out if it's too shallow

 

Edit: clearly I didn't read e whole thread before I posted.

 

And the comment about using the outboard as a thus tear is a great idea. I should assume that at low speed the turning circle wouldn't be great without a true keel

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And what's the structure build of 2" x 4" between the daggerboards? Have they pulled the pin and lifted the keel? Doesn't really look beefy enough for that application ... hmmmm

 

May as well take the keel out if it's too shallow

 

Edit: clearly I didn't read e whole thread before I posted.

 

And the comment about using the outboard as a thus tear is a great idea. I should assume that at low speed the turning circle wouldn't be great without a true keel

Agreed that the outboard would enhance maneuverability. But "true keel" does not describe a canting keel very well. A canting keel is designed for ballast and not for hydrodynamic lift.

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And what's the structure build of 2" x 4" between the daggerboards? Have they pulled the pin and lifted the keel? Doesn't really look beefy enough for that application ... hmmmm

 

May as well take the keel out if it's too shallow

 

Edit: clearly I didn't read e whole thread before I posted.

 

And the comment about using the outboard as a thus tear is a great idea. I should assume that at low speed the turning circle wouldn't be great without a true keel

Agreed that the outboard would enhance maneuverability. But "true keel" does not describe a canting keel very well. A canting keel is designed for ballast and not for hydrodynamic lift.

 

Good pooint. Damn I hate autocorrect on the IPad.

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She's signed up for the Chicago Mac - not sure about the 'other' Mac though. Aka Bayview

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She's signed up for the Chicago Mac - not sure about the 'other' Mac though. Aka Bayview

 

What's the record for monohulls in the Chicago Mac? Does Il Mostro have a shot at setting a new one?

 

2N

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She's signed up for the Chicago Mac - not sure about the 'other' Mac though. Aka Bayview

 

What's the record for monohulls in the Chicago Mac? Does Il Mostro have a shot at setting a new one?

 

2N

 

The monohull record is a little less than 23.5 hours (I think) set in 2002. It would seem that this is within reach of Il Mostro. They would need to make an average VMG of 14.5 knots or better.

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It did not meet the minimum stability index requirement...

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wonder where about it is now. would love to see it in the 'flesh'.

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It did not meet the minimum stability index requirement...

Please tell me you are joking....

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It did not meet the minimum stability index requirement...

with or without keel? ;)

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She's signed up for the Chicago Mac - not sure about the 'other' Mac though. Aka Bayview

 

What's the record for monohulls in the Chicago Mac? Does Il Mostro have a shot at setting a new one?

 

2N

 

The monohull record is a little less than 23.5 hours (I think) set in 2002. It would seem that this is within reach of Il Mostro. They would need to make an average VMG of 14.5 knots or better.

 

Math is not your strong suit - 289Nm in 23.5 hours is only 12.3 knots average

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