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Sailed there for the first time last year-loved it. Your in for a good time.


Keep your head on a swivel. The wind can come through the various mountain passes, roll down the face of the mountains and it comes from anywhere, any direction on the lake. Have fun and enjoy the great hospitality and scenery!

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I have heard that there needs to be a lot of quick sail adjustments to keep up with the variable winds.


But come on, the air is thin at 9000', how hard could the puffs be?

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Puffs there go from zero out of teh south to 12 from teh west pretty much instantly.




Most of teh time you can see puffs rolling across teh water from wherever it is they might come. Wind shoots down mountyain faces because of clouds or some other minor shift in temperature with great regularity.




it is not one bit absurd to suggest this.



While flying your chute you should be ready at all times to immediately douse and tack.




Your weather leg probably won't have any spinnaker work...but sometimes?? it happens.




People regularly find something and sail around competitors.




The "keep your head on a swivel" advice is spot on.




Summarizing?? sail as you always would. Pick favored ends of starting lines, sail up the beat, sail downwind...but ALWAYS be prepared for sudden and dramatic change.








Looking for that opportunity to simply sail around everybody else who is parked really ought to be in your gameplan.

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i sail the lake a bunch and have the following observations:


puffy, shifty, shitty. do not expect a steady 15 knots from the nw. you'll be surrounded by 12,000+ mountains and sail in the convergence of three valleys, hell, make it four.



make constant re-appraisals of the wind direction and speed prior to the start. significant changes will occur at any time.



prepare to go upwind on the downwind, and downwind on the upwind. do not tack unless you are in a puff. lulls will absolutely kill you and get our you of sequence. 15 degree shifts are not uncommon. if you don't have someone good looking behind you downwind, you're already losing.



localized wind fields are generated from completing thunderstorms from all quadrants. difficult sometimes to determine which storm will win out. be prepared for serious winds (rain, hail) associated with these storms.



be prepared for dead calms, often delaying racing for the day. wind will often fill from a completely different direction mid-race causing fleet resets.



coming out of the snake, right pays more often than left. take your port board right up to the rocks many cases.



pick a side of the hump when heading to the damn in a northerly wind. do not get caught directly downwind of it, especially when closing in on the damn marks. mark two especially. these marks are on the north side of the course, traditionally the most common upwind marks.



understand this is a cold water lake, life jackets a must when sporty.



keep grinding, no matter your position as the shifty conditions leave no position safe.



boat handling is at a premium, especially quick sets and douses in a variety of unusual circumstances.



you will bruise, you will bleed. you will have a blast.

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ha, i said damn. subliminal, no doubt.


i should add that flat water settings often prevail, except when t-storms are about when its time to get your short, steep chop settings dialed in.


in spite of the potential for high winds, great racing is also common in shifty, 8-15 with waves ~ 1'

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