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Mumm 36 Trailer and Transportation

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I'm looking for some help with finding transportation for a Mumm 36. Boat is in Chicago - need to bring it to Newport Beach. Boat has no trailer, but has a cradle. It doesnt appear the boat can be transported on a flatbed in the cradle without an escort because of height limitations. Not confirmed, but first two transportation companies stated as such. I know the group has experience with this...not the first time one of these boats has made this trip. There was a 36 trailer listed here in the classifieds but cant find it in a search. So help a brutha out.. Thanks.

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First being in Chicago you have a height problem if you leave the keel on as on a double drop, or a boat trailer you will be over 13' 6". The width isn't any problem as you can just permit it ..the height is going to be a problem... You won't need an escort unless it is over 14' 4" in Iowa, if you are you Need an escort. As for Nebraska your ok all the way across for anything less than 15'. Wyoming is a piece of cake. Utah you have a low bridge on 80 by Coalville. Fast lane you can be about 14' 6" if I remember. On hwy 15 south of Salt lake is a 14'5" overpass. And are fine through. Arizona and Nevada..don't really know about California.. So you need to be as low as you can..double drop trailers are about 20" to deck height.. Boat trailers are lower a little... Maybe 18". You need to get how high you are on the cradle and add the deck height for your overall height. On a boat trailer I know like for the Olson 30s are about 14"..from where the keel sits to ground.. Don't forget a cradle will add unneeded height.. And less than 14'4" will save you about 400 bucks just for the escort in Iowa...hope that gives you an idea what will be required .. As for trailers.. There is a company in Ohio that builds boat trailers..if you want I can give you their phone number, see if they need one ferried to the west coast...transport their trailer with your boat..best of luck with your venture..just remember height is not you friend.

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The boats all shipped from the factory with keels on. If the boat has the original factory steel cradle, they were designed to fit the marine industry standard marine transport trailers and get down to legal height. The cross bars under the keel are removable and the uprights of the cradle can be lowered 12". The bulb will be below the cradle frame and will fit down between the longitudinal beams in the trailer when the base of the cradle sits on the top of the trailer. There were adjustable feet on the cradle that extended 10" below the main channels when the cradle needs to sit on the ground just before or after transport. You may also need to remove cabin top winches, the bow rail and perhaps a few stanchions.

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Thanks for all the excellent information. Looks like there is a change in direction.

 

Thanks again.

 

Cheers!

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I require any documentation that there is on the mumm 36. If you have any could you please message me.

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I looked into buying a trailer. Cheaper to Hire a Transport Company. The Mumm is about as Big as you want to Tow legally. Unless you own a Dually and are Very experienced I would strongly suggest Hiring a Transport Co. I used this guy and he was amazing. Larry Bender 515-971-1771.

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