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the Games of the XXX Olympiad - London 2012

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who ya got? what country and what sailors are you rooting for?

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who ya got? what country and what sailors are you rooting for?

....wish they'd mount a go-pro on -every- boat,,with the ability for the viewer to view through -any- boat ---that'd be fun :)

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certainly rooting for richard clarke and tyler bjorn. The Star Class is ( potentially) making a swan song and the players that can medal in this class are certainly the cream of the crop!

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who ya got? what country and what sailors are you rooting for?

 

 

which female sailor has the biggest tits??? that's the one I'm rooting for...who care what country she's from

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certainly rooting for richard clarke and tyler bjorn. The Star Class is ( potentially) making a swan song and the players that can medal in this class are certainly the cream of the crop!

......good blokes,hope they do well,but there's prolly a certain Brazilian they'll have t'contend with ,,,and some others :blink::D

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who ya got? what country and what sailors are you rooting for?

 

 

which female sailor has the biggest tits??? that's the one I'm rooting for...who care what country she's from

 

 

....don't care about big tits as you say,,,,but which 470 women have the best photo-portfolio??

 

,,,,,and who's got a link to those dear dutch 470 women??...that was just HOT :rolleyes:

..those gals -definitely- set the mark t'beat!!! ;)

 

 

..........clothes on OR off,,,a photographic study of olympian physiques is DEFINITELY called for,,,,,it's the olympics afterall!!!

 

 

 

....AND a friday :D

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Clarke/Bjorn are definitely on my list and they have a shot (not going to be easy for whoever ends up at the top of that class). Big Ben should be interesting to watch, will he step up again? The 49er class has a number of boats that are in it to win, should be some good racing out in front.

 

470s, windsurfers, Elliots, lasers, I won't be paying much attention...

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who ya got? what country and what sailors are you rooting for?

....wish they'd mount a go-pro on -every- boat,,with the ability for the viewer to view through -any- boat ---that'd be fun :)

The Elliot's are camera laden.

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who ya got? what country and what sailors are you rooting for?

 

 

which female sailor has the biggest tits??? that's the one I'm rooting for...who care what country she's from

 

not sure about big tits but it looks like the radial fleet has some talent... the dame from the islands is pretty easy on the eyes

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...an interesting candidate from canada in finns...

..at 22years,makes me wonder who the youngest finnster at the olympics has been?

 

http://www.gregdouglassailing.com/

 

...14th in gold cup,at 22,,,interesting,,,very interesting ;)

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Mat Belcher and Mal Page.

470's

http://belcherpage2012.com/

 

Mens 470 Mat Belcher and Mal Page AUS

49er Nat Outteridge and Iain Jensen AUS

Laser Men Tom Slingsby AUS

 

Oi! Oi! Oi!

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I'm guessing the brits have to be a favorite to lead the sailing medal count?

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...an interesting candidate from canada in finns...

..at 22years,makes me wonder who the youngest finnster at the olympics has been?

 

http://www.gregdouglassailing.com/

 

...14th in gold cup,at 22,,,interesting,,,very interesting ;)

 

Greg Douglas is from Barbados. So go Canada

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I'm guessing the brits have to be a favorite to lead the sailing medal count?

 

........paging captain OBVIOUS!! <_<

 

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...an interesting candidate from canada in finns...

..at 22years,makes me wonder who the youngest finnster at the olympics has been?

 

http://www.gregdouglassailing.com/

 

...14th in gold cup,at 22,,,interesting,,,very interesting ;)

 

 

Greg Douglas is from Barbados. So go Canada

 

 

...whatever.........remarkably young for his achievements to date,no?

 

,,,not that Canada's particularly a powerhouse in sailing,,but it's more often the case that a duel citizen would take advantage of that 'Tuvalu' situation,for a parachute spot,,

,,,but this kid seems t'be shooting straight from the hip.

 

...it's not like I think he's going to medal this time,,but it does seem like he's going -somewhere- ;)

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...an interesting candidate from canada in finns...

..at 22years,makes me wonder who the youngest finnster at the olympics has been?

 

http://www.gregdouglassailing.com/

 

...14th in gold cup,at 22,,,interesting,,,very interesting ;)

 

 

Greg Douglas is from Barbados. So go Canada

 

 

...whatever.........remarkably young for his achievements to date,no?

 

,,,not that Canada's particularly a powerhouse in sailing,,but it's more often the case that a duel citizen would take advantage of that 'Tuvalu' situation,for a parachute spot,,

,,,but this kid seems t'be shooting straight from the hip.

 

...it's not like I think he's going to medal this time,,but it does seem like he's going -somewhere- ;)

 

Like everyone else from Barbados, he's a good sailor. He won't do well in light breezes, but in moderate to heavy air he'll do just fine.

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certainly rooting for richard clarke and tyler bjorn. The Star Class is ( potentially) making a swan song and the players that can medal in this class are certainly the cream of the crop!

Go Dickie!

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who are the favorites in the 470?

hard to go past the Aussie team....I think they won the last 3 or 4 worlds and most / all lead up events

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We were lucky enough to have Brendan Cassy (Australian Finn rep for Weymouth) speak at the presentation for our youth week regatta on Sunday night. To see the look on the faces of the Opti green fleet kids was to know that our sport has a great future. Inspirational stuff BC - you set the dream for a few kids mate. Now go kick some pommy arse!

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Mat Belcher and Mal Page.

470's

http://belcherpage2012.com/

 

Mens 470 Mat Belcher and Mal Page AUS

49er Nat Outteridge and Iain Jensen AUS

Laser Men Tom Slingsby AUS

 

Oi! Oi! Oi!

The above are standouts and Dan and Leisel AUS in the Skud too!

 

And then there's Krystal Weir AUS in the Laser radials as well.

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Olympics: Tom Slingsby

Paralympics: Tassie boy Matt Bugg in the 2.4R

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My only solid predictions are Ainslie in the Finn, Merit Bouwmeister in the radial, Tunnicliffe in match racing.

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My only solid predictions are Ainslie in the Finn, Merit Bouwmeister in the radial, Tunnicliffe in match racing.

Looks like this might be the Big Ben's last olympics in the Finn. I'd be flabbergasted if he didnt grab the gold. Anna has a great chance at gold, thats for sure.

 

Radials is a little up for grabs. Paige Railey certainly has the talent to medal, although if I was a betting man, I'd say vegas is probably putting better odds on her brother getting some hardware. There's alot more parity at the top of the ladies radial fleet than the finn fleet.

 

obviously pulling for all of team USA to have good regattas and sail to their potential at least. The brits have tons of talent, but yikes, theres gotta be a TON of pressure and distractions for them on their home turf...

 

Remember, for the fleet racers this is a much different kinda regatta than most, with the small fleets and often times much slower boats comprising the back 1/3rd than a normal ISAF regatta or gold cup etc.

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http://www.sailing.org/olympics/london2012/home.php

 

Its getting close now

 

 

Lazer racing Schedule

29th July – 12:00 x 1 race

 

30th July – 12:00 x 2 races

 

31st July – 12:000 x 2 races

 

1st August – 12:00 x 2 races

 

2nd Aug – Schedule rest day or resail day

 

3rd Aug – 12:00 x 1 race

 

4th Aug – 12:00 x 2 races

 

5th Aug - Schedule rest day or resail day

 

6th Aug – 14:00 Medal race for top 10 sailors

 

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Laser: Slingsby AUS

470Mens: Belcher/Page AUS

49er: Outteridge/Jensen AUS

Womens Match: Price/Curtis/Whitty AUS

Paralympics

Skud: Fitzgibbon/Tesch AUS

2.4: Bugg AUS

 

Go the Aussie sailors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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whats the forecast like for the beginning of the regatta?

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Weymouth weather forecast here http://www.windguru.cz/int/index.php?sc=133

 

Star: Peter O'Leary & David Burrows from Ireland are starting to peek right on time. I fancy them for a medal.

 

Laser Radial: If it blows, Annalise Murphy will be up there.. She's a big girl anbd she loves the breeze.

 

Laser: hard to look past Slingsby

 

Finn: Ainslie.

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heart firmly in the Team GB camp- Ainslie, Goody & Clark/Mills are solid gold prospects, with all the other classes very well represented and medalling opportunities.

 

As for head... well the odds were crap to back any UK sailors, so I took the 50 quid of 'free opening an account' money from William Hill and stuck it on Martinez & Fernandez each way.

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Star: Peter O'Leary & David Burrows from Ireland are starting to peek right on time. I fancy them for a medal.

Laser Radial: If it blows, Annalise Murphy will be up there.. She's a big girl and she loves the breeze.

Both should make top 5, could medal and can take Gold I recon.

 

She's clearly got her head screwed on in terms of expectation but if it blows all regatta Annalise in particular is capable of being a star of the games.

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to the folks that are plugged into the class- who are the other silver/bronze medal favorites in the finn besides ben?

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I'm supporting all the AUS sailors but based on form...

 

 

FinnBen Ainslie GBR Brendan Casey AUS to medal

 

Laser Tom Slingsby AUS

 

Laser Radial Marit Boumeister Krystal Weir to medal

 

470M Mat Belcher & Mal Page AUS

 

470W Hanna Mills & Saskia Clark GBR Rike and Kathryn GER

 

49er Nathan Outteridge and Ian Jensen AUS

 

Star Robert Scheidt BRA

 

RSX M Don't care

 

RSX W Don't care

 

Match Race AUS

 

 

I just hope

 

1. Its a well run and fair regatta

 

2. The athletes have the time of their lives

 

3. There is decent live internet coverage over the whole Olympic regatta

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Laser Radial class dinghies sail during a practice session ahead of the start of the London 2012 Olympic Games in Weymouth and Portland, southern England, July 24, 2012. (MSNBC)

 

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Laser: Slingsby AUS

470Mens: Belcher/Page AUS

49er: Outteridge/Jensen AUS

Womens Match: Price/Curtis/Whitty AUS

Paralympics

Skud: Fitzgibbon/Tesch AUS

2.4: Bugg AUS

 

Go the Aussie sailors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, pretty much nailed it.

 

Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi

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FWIW, SI's predictions:

Sailing

 

Men's RS: X (sailboard)

Dorian van Rijsselberge Netherlands

Przemyslaw Miarczynski Poland

Jon Paul Tobin New Zealand

Note Tobin finished fifth at 2011 worlds despite a sting from a cobbler fish.

 

Men's laser (one-person dinghy)

Tom Slingsby Australia

Andrew Murdoch New Zealand

Paul Goodison Great Britain

Note Slingsby has five world titles but was 22nd in Beijing.

 

 

Men's finn (heavyweight dinghy)

Ben Ainslie Great Britain

Jonas Hoegh-Christensen Denmark

Zach Railey U.S.

Note Ainslie has an Olympic gold and silver in Laser and two golds in Finn.

 

Men's 470 (two-person dinghy)

Mat Belcher & Malcolm Page Australia

Stuart Bithell & Luke Patience Great Britain

Sime Fantela & Igor Marenic Croatia

Note Belcher earned his taekwondo black belt at age 10.

 

Men's star (keelboat)

Bruno Prada & Robert Scheidt Brazil

Fredrik Lööf & Max Salminen Sweden

Ian Percy & Andrew Simpson Great Britain

Note Brazil has won more medals in sailing than in any other sport.

 

Women's RS: X (sailboard)

Lee Korzits Israel

Marina Alabau Spain

Zofia Noceti-Klepacka Poland

Note Korzits is the only Israeli to have won three world titles in any sport.

 

Women's laser radial (one-person dinghy)

Marit Bouwmeester Netherlands

Evi Van Acker Belgium

Alison Young Great Britain

Note Paige Railey, Zach's younger sister, could medal here.

 

Women's 470 (two-person dinghy)

Berta Betanzos & Tara Pacheco Spain

Saskia Clark & Hannah Mills Great Britain

Ai Kondo & Wakako Tabata Japan

Note Britain led all nations with six total medals at the 2011 worlds.

 

Women's Elliott 6m (fixed keel, match race)

U.S.

Great Britain

France

Note U.S.'s Anna Tunnicliffe, a 2008 gold medalist, lived in England until age 12.

 

Open 49er (skiff)

Iain Jensen & Nathan Outteridge Australia

Peter Burling & Blair Tuke New Zealand

Peter Lang & Allan Nørregaard Denmark

Note In Beijing, Otteridge capsized 100 meters from possible gold.

 

 

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/olympics/2012/writers/brian_cazeneuve/07/26/2012-olympics-medal-predictions/index.html#ixzz21mDwUWFE

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Finn Race 1

 

Race 1

Official

Place Name Time Race Pts +

1 HOGH-CHRISTENSEN Jonas 52:37 1 +

2 AINSLIE Ben +0:17 2 +

3 KLJAKOVIC GASPIC Ivan +0:25 3 +

4 MITAKIS Ioannis +0:57 4 +

5 POSTMA Pieter-Jan +0:59 5 +

6 RAUDASCHL Florian +1:09 6 +

7 SLATER Dan +1:30 7 +

8 ZBOGAR Vasilij +1:49 8 +

9 LOBERT Jonathan +1:56 9 +

10 RAILEY Zach +2:00 10 +

11 NIRKKO Tapio +2:04 11 +

12 TRUJILLO VILLAR Rafael +2:10 12 +

13 SKORNYAKOV Eduard +2:13 13 +

14 KARPAK Deniss +2:16 14 +

15 ZARIF Jorge +2:20 15 +

16 DOUGLAS Greg +2:25 16 +

17 BIRGMARK Daniel +2:25 17 +

18 KAYNAR Alican +2:30 18 +

19 MAIER Michael +2:37 19 +

20 BALDASSARI Filippo +2:54 20 +

- GONG Lei - 25

OCS

+

- CASEY Brendan - 25

DNF

+

- KULA Piotr - 25

DNF

+

- BORYSOV Oleksiy - 25

DNF

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Finn Race 2

 

1 HOGH-CHRISTENSEN Jonas 1:00:09 1 +

2 AINSLIE Ben +0:19 2 +

3 KLJAKOVIC GASPIC Ivan +1:16 3 +

4 LOBERT Jonathan +1:24 4 +

5 BIRGMARK Daniel +1:39 5 +

6 ZBOGAR Vasilij +1:43 6 +

7 CASEY Brendan +1:52 7 +

8 SKORNYAKOV Eduard +2:18 8 +

9 KARPAK Deniss +2:25 9 +

10 POSTMA Pieter-Jan +2:37 10 +

11 SLATER Dan +2:49 11 +

12 TRUJILLO VILLAR Rafael +2:53 12 +

13 NIRKKO Tapio +2:55 13 +

14 KAYNAR Alican +2:58 14 +

15 RAILEY Zach +3:08 15 +

16 KULA Piotr +3:12 16 +

17 GONG Lei +3:16 17 +

18 MAIER Michael +3:17 18 +

19 RAUDASCHL Florian +3:20 19 +

20 ZARIF Jorge +3:23 20 +

21 MITAKIS Ioannis +3:25 21 +

22 BALDASSARI Filippo +3:29 22 +

23 DOUGLAS Greg +3:34 23 +

- BORYSOV Oleksiy - 25

DNC

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could Big Ben be in trouble?

He's right in it. Fought back from 4th place on the last upwind leg.

 

So I'm going to show how long it's been since I raced dinghy's, but it looks like you can pump the hell out of your main any time you want to.

 

What decade did that change?

 

Koukel

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could Big Ben be in trouble?

He's right in it. Fought back from 4th place on the last upwind leg.

 

So I'm going to show how long it's been since I raced dinghy's, but it looks like you can pump the hell out of your main any time you want to.

 

What decade did that change?

 

Koukel

 

Think they changed the rule after Beijing so that the Finn class can pump as much as they like in over 10 knots.

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Think they changed the rule after Beijing so that the Finn class can pump as much as they like in over 10 knots.

 

Yellow flag I think. I'm grateful it isn't allowed in my class.

 

 

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"Higher, faster, stronger." Ok. Well you have to be a little bit nuts to race Finns anyway. I think I missed my calling, I hear right around 240 is a good weight for them.

 

Koukel

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WEYMOUTH, England (Reuters) - Irish sailor Peter O'Leary is the subject of an Olympic investigation into an alleged bet he made on a competitor in a previous competition, a source close to the Irish Olympic team confirmed to Reuters on Sunday.

O'Leary, his face largely obscured by a black-hooded top and dark glasses was whisked past waiting reporters in the mixed zone at the Olympic sailing venue at Portland, close to the English seaside town of Weymouth.

The sailor, still wearing his wetsuit, made no comment when asked about the betting probe, after making a strong start in racing in the heavyweight Star class.

However, James O'Callaghan the Irish sailing team's performance director told reporters shortly afterwards: "The issue is sub-judice so we have no comment to make."

O'Leary's crew mate David Burrows, declined to comment on the allegation, which came to light on earlier this week when the International Olympics Committee (IOC) said an unnamed Irish athlete was being investigated by his national committee.

Burrows was, however, willing to talk about the duo's performance on the water in their two-man Star boat.

"It was tricky out there today. It was hard to get the strategy right," Burrows said, adding he was "glad to have the first day over".

O'Leary and Burrows were second in the afternoon's first race behind the French Star crew and recorded a sixth position in the second race. On points, this put the Irish crew in second position behind Brazilian sailing legend Robert Scheidt and his crew Bruno Prada.

O'Leary's Irish National Olympic Committee could expel him from the Games, if they find him guilty of breaking any of their rules regarding gambling.

(Editing by Ossian Shine)

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im sure someone here knows more about the O'Leary situation... Was the alleged bet on a competitor through a real sports book?

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im sure someone here knows more about the O'Leary situation... Was the alleged bet on a competitor through a real sports book?

 

I'll have a go at this.

 

The story broke in Saturday's Irish Independent newspaper, very vague, un-named sources, loose allegations about an "Irish Olympian alleged gambling scandal," no comment from the Irish Olympic Council.

 

By Sunday, O'Leary the Star sailor was named in all Irish and UK papers, a "betting scandal" of big proportions, but again no comment from Irish OC or International OC.

 

Monday's papers (today) have the following:

 

Irish Times (our "paper of record" not given to hyperoble)

 

Irish Independent (owned by Tony O'Reilly of Heinz fame, keen to make a buck any which way)

 

Irish Examiner (based in Cork -- O'Leary's home -- and owned by a family firm which includes a number of good sailors and an International Race Officer)

 

Tonight, Irish TV news makes no mention.

 

Full disclosure: I do not know Peter O'Leary, never met him. He is a very good sailor, I am a plonker.

 

Allegation: O'Leary laid a bet with Boyle Sports (Ireland) for Ian Percy to win the Star medal race in Beijing 2008. And he won money.

 

Fact: IOC rules prohibits an "Olympic Competitor" from gambling on his/her own sport. (Google it)

 

Fact: O'Leary did not qualify for the Star medal race in Beijing, and was thus no longer an Olympic competitor. Out of the game. On his way home. No longer bound by Olympic rules (except perhaps drug testing days after the event) (Google it)

 

Fact: O'Leary and Percy were friendly training partners for a number of years prior to Beijing. (Google it)

 

My opinion: Because O'Leary was no longer an Olympic competitor, his wager was legal.

 

Really interesting: We Irish enjoy "the art of begrudgery." We love to resent anyone who has enjoyed success. Be it the neighbour's prize winning roses, the guy down the street who won the lottery, or the successful sailor, we love to knock them down.

 

Someone, somewhere, in Ireland, knew all about O'Leary's successful 2008 wager and kept it in his pocket, behind the book case, under the mattress, buried in the garden, and decided to fuck with O'Leary's head by giving the details to the Irish Independent newspaper the day before O'Leary's first race. A serious, calculated, kept very close to hand piece of four year old begrudgery.

 

The population of Ireland is 4.5 million, sailors about 60,000. The begrudger's name will begin circulating the day after tomorrow.

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im sure someone here knows more about the O'Leary situation... Was the alleged bet on a competitor through a real sports book?

 

I'll have a go at this.

 

The story broke in Saturday's Irish Independent newspaper, very vague, un-named sources, loose allegations about an "Irish Olympian alleged gambling scandal," no comment from the Irish Olympic Council.

 

By Sunday, O'Leary the Star sailor was named in all Irish and UK papers, a "betting scandal" of big proportions, but again no comment from Irish OC or International OC.

 

Monday's papers (today) have the following:

 

Irish Times (our "paper of record" not given to hyperoble)

 

Irish Independent (owned by Tony O'Reilly of Heinz fame, keen to make a buck any which way)

 

Irish Examiner (based in Cork -- O'Leary's home -- and owned by a family firm which includes a number of good sailors and an International Race Officer)

 

Tonight, Irish TV news makes no mention.

 

Full disclosure: I do not know Peter O'Leary, never met him. He is a very good sailor, I am a plonker.

 

Allegation: O'Leary laid a bet with Boyle Sports (Ireland) for Ian Percy to win the Star medal race in Beijing 2008. And he won money.

 

Fact: IOC rules prohibits an "Olympic Competitor" from gambling on his/her own sport. (Google it)

 

Fact: O'Leary did not qualify for the Star medal race in Beijing, and was thus no longer an Olympic competitor. Out of the game. On his way home. No longer bound by Olympic rules (except perhaps drug testing days after the event) (Google it)

 

Fact: O'Leary and Percy were friendly training partners for a number of years prior to Beijing. (Google it)

 

My opinion: Because O'Leary was no longer an Olympic competitor, his wager was legal.

 

Really interesting: We Irish enjoy "the art of begrudgery." We love to resent anyone who has enjoyed success. Be it the neighbour's prize winning roses, the guy down the street who won the lottery, or the successful sailor, we love to knock them down.

 

Someone, somewhere, in Ireland, knew all about O'Leary's successful 2008 wager and kept it in his pocket, behind the book case, under the mattress, buried in the garden, and decided to fuck with O'Leary's head by giving the details to the Irish Independent newspaper the day before O'Leary's first race. A serious, calculated, kept very close to hand piece of four year old begrudgery.

 

The population of Ireland is 4.5 million, sailors about 60,000. The begrudger's name will begin circulating the day after tomorrow.

 

 

 

this just proves that there is not statute of limitations on being an asshole.

 

 

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I bet the snitch was a redcoat

 

 

I sincerely hope his front falls off!

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Brilliant freak, cleared it up for alot of people.

 

+1 on that, someone will out that **** , hope

it does n't scupper great Irish start.

L. :angry:

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Pretty wide lines to read between but fuck that for a complete none story. The story it's self or where it may or may not have come from. Any one in Irish sailing who takes their eye off the real story is a total mug.

 

The real news on Irish sailing at the Olympics:

 

Annalise Murphy dominates opening day of Olympic Radial regatta. 2 wins in fleet of 41. The second race win by 43 seconds. Repeat conditions expected today. (currently in leading the 3rd race too)

 

Searton & MacGovern take next step. Irelands 49er pair continue the steady improvement shown through out 2012 to lie 6th overall at the end of the first days racing.

 

O'Leary & Burrows rebound to maintain medal challenge in Star. After a difficult race 3 and going deep in race 4. Irish Star team finish the day 5th overall to maintain their challenge for a medal.

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3 in a row for Murphy. In swimming they give you 3 gold medals for that shit.

 

Go Irl!

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Contenders in Finn:

Defenatly Jonas Hogh Christensen from Danmark. Hope we'll see him back in America's cup or Volvo Ocean Race.

All is not lost for Zach Railey Fourth at mark 3 in race 5.

Ben doing a steady third.

 

Contenders in RSX.

Dorian van Rijselberg (Netherlands) tipped for gold!

42 seconds advance on the rest of the fleet in race 1

And he's mostly like that.

 

Murphy Annalise from Ireland in Women Laser Radial

Definitely a winner.

Marit Bouwmeester tipped for silver or Bronze

 

Peter Burling crewed by Blair Tuke (AUS)in Men 49-er

Nathan Outerridge and Ian Jensen Aus both teams for gold or Silver

 

 

Ian Percy and Andrew Simpson GB in Star

Robert Scheidt and Bruno Prada BRA

Hamish Pepper and Jim Turner Aus

 

Elliot match-racing women

Olivia Price Aus and Ekaterina Skudina Rus did not lose a match so far.

 

470 men and woman begins 2 and 3 August

RSX women begins today

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Storck and Moore just took a 49er bullet when the Aussies capsized on the last leg. First for the USofA this Olympcs, good on them!

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There are so many sailing threads, but funniest thing I just saw was China way ahead of EVERYONE in the shooting.USA a bit down the rankings.Carry on:D

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Storck and Moore just took a 49er bullet when the Aussies capsized on the last leg. First for the USofA this Olympcs, good on them!

 

Nathan was just getting the traditional "last leg swim" out of his system before it really matters. What a recovery though! Still finished 4th. Iain had the kite away almost before the mast hit the water.

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3 in a row for Murphy. In swimming they give you 3 gold medals for that shit.

 

Now 4 in a row - and she led 3 races at every mark, the other race she was in 2nd the first lap, and then took over 1st.

 

Thats impressive !

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im sure someone here knows more about the O'Leary situation... Was the alleged bet on a competitor through a real sports book?

 

I'll have a go at this.

 

The story broke in Saturday's Irish Independent newspaper, very vague, un-named sources, loose allegations about an "Irish Olympian alleged gambling scandal," no comment from the Irish Olympic Council.

 

By Sunday, O'Leary the Star sailor was named in all Irish and UK papers, a "betting scandal" of big proportions, but again no comment from Irish OC or International OC.

 

Monday's papers (today) have the following:

 

Irish Times (our "paper of record" not given to hyperoble)

 

Irish Independent (owned by Tony O'Reilly of Heinz fame, keen to make a buck any which way)

 

Irish Examiner (based in Cork -- O'Leary's home -- and owned by a family firm which includes a number of good sailors and an International Race Officer)

 

Tonight, Irish TV news makes no mention.

 

Full disclosure: I do not know Peter O'Leary, never met him. He is a very good sailor, I am a plonker.

 

Allegation: O'Leary laid a bet with Boyle Sports (Ireland) for Ian Percy to win the Star medal race in Beijing 2008. And he won money.

 

Fact: IOC rules prohibits an "Olympic Competitor" from gambling on his/her own sport. (Google it)

 

Fact: O'Leary did not qualify for the Star medal race in Beijing, and was thus no longer an Olympic competitor. Out of the game. On his way home. No longer bound by Olympic rules (except perhaps drug testing days after the event) (Google it)

 

Fact: O'Leary and Percy were friendly training partners for a number of years prior to Beijing. (Google it)

 

My opinion: Because O'Leary was no longer an Olympic competitor, his wager was legal.

 

Really interesting: We Irish enjoy "the art of begrudgery." We love to resent anyone who has enjoyed success. Be it the neighbour's prize winning roses, the guy down the street who won the lottery, or the successful sailor, we love to knock them down.

 

Someone, somewhere, in Ireland, knew all about O'Leary's successful 2008 wager and kept it in his pocket, behind the book case, under the mattress, buried in the garden, and decided to fuck with O'Leary's head by giving the details to the Irish Independent newspaper the day before O'Leary's first race. A serious, calculated, kept very close to hand piece of four year old begrudgery.

 

The population of Ireland is 4.5 million, sailors about 60,000. The begrudger's name will begin circulating the day after tomorrow.

 

 

Peter Oleary is one of the nicest sailors I have ever had the chance to sail with and compete against! He is one of the truly good guys in the game and anyone who says otherwise is clearly jealous! I hope that the name is circulated as soon as it is found out.......

 

Geoff

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Dorian van Rijselbergen has taken first place in race 2 as well in RSX men.

More then a minute advance on the rest of the fleet.

No one can stop this guy.

 

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There are so many sailing threads, but funniest thing I just saw was China way ahead of EVERYONE in the shooting.USA a bit down the rankings.Carry on:D

 

 

Well spotted mate.

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There are so many sailing threads, but funniest thing I just saw was China way ahead of EVERYONE in the shooting.USA a bit down the rankings.Carry on:D

 

 

Well spotted mate.

 

 

China and shooting just think of the consequences

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There are so many sailing threads, but funniest thing I just saw was China way ahead of EVERYONE in the shooting.USA a bit down the rankings.Carry on:D

 

 

Well spotted mate.

 

 

China and shooting just think of the consequences

 

I'm just a bit confuse that you learnt something of Auscat, re FOIBLE blink.gif

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USA - not pretenders, but certainly not contenders either. Go Team Turkey!

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do rag must be hiding in his basement with the performance of the us competitors, oi oi oi

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I see the Brits FINALLY scored a gold medal. Took em long enough!!:ph34r:

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3 in a row for Murphy. In swimming they give you 3 gold medals for that shit.

 

Now 4 in a row - and she led 3 races at every mark, the other race she was in 2nd the first lap, and then took over 1st.

 

Thats impressive !

 

+1 she is much faster on the breeze than any other competitor. In race 4 she was on the favored end, but 2nd tier. She just motored right up to the front by aggressively managing the boat through the waves, flatter and more body movement than anybody around her. Awesome dominance.

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Watching Murphy was impressive. She dominated in the races that I watched. Also, the Danish Finn sailor is putting on quite a show in a really tough fleet.

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do rag must be hiding in his basement with the performance of the us competitors, oi oi oi

 

The US is tied with China for the most medals - what Olympics are you watching? As usual it's the US against the world and we win, you lose. And badmitton and sailing are not athletic contests so they don't count.

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do rag must be hiding in his basement with the performance of the us competitors, oi oi oi

 

The US is tied with China for the most medals - what Olympics are you watching? As usual it's the US against the world and we win, you lose. And badmitton and sailing are not athletic contests so they don't count.

 

And China just got tossed for cheating in badmitton. Big surprise there.

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do rag must be hiding in his basement with the performance of the us competitors, oi oi oi

 

The US is tied with China for the most medals - what Olympics are you watching? As usual it's the US against the world and we win, you lose. And badmitton and sailing are not athletic contests so they don't count.

 

sailing is certainly an athletic contest, if you believe otherwise than youve never sailed a skiff or a laser or a finn or a sailboard in breeze, and are simply ignorant or a slow learner.

 

the sports that arent athletics are the judged contests- ie- equestrian and synchronized swimming/diving

 

that said, the medal count is quite skewed by swimming. theres a ridiculous amount of swimming medals awarded. If you de-factor this, i suspect the chinese are kicking US arse even more.

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do rag must be hiding in his basement with the performance of the us competitors, oi oi oi

 

The US is tied with China for the most medals - what Olympics are you watching? As usual it's the US against the world and we win, you lose. And badmitton and sailing are not athletic contests so they don't count.

 

sailing is certainly an athletic contest, if you believe otherwise than youve never sailed a skiff or a laser or a finn or a sailboard in breeze, and are simply ignorant or a slow learner.

 

the sports that arent athletics are the judged contests- ie- equestrian and synchronized swimming/diving

 

that said, the medal count is quite skewed by swimming. theres a ridiculous amount of swimming medals awarded. If you de-factor this, i suspect the chinese are kicking US arse even more.

 

So, diving and gymnastics aren't athletic contests and sailing a laser is?

 

Jeebers!

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do rag must be hiding in his basement with the performance of the us competitors, oi oi oi

 

The US is tied with China for the most medals - what Olympics are you watching? As usual it's the US against the world and we win, you lose. And badmitton and sailing are not athletic contests so they don't count.

 

sailing is certainly an athletic contest, if you believe otherwise than youve never sailed a skiff or a laser or a finn or a sailboard in breeze, and are simply ignorant or a slow learner.

 

the sports that arent athletics are the judged contests- ie- equestrian and synchronized swimming/diving

 

that said, the medal count is quite skewed by swimming. theres a ridiculous amount of swimming medals awarded. If you de-factor this, i suspect the chinese are kicking US arse even more.

 

So, diving and gymnastics aren't athletic contests and sailing a laser is?

 

Jeebers!

 

uh no, you took my post too literally. I didnt mean every sport with a judge involved is not athletics. of course every single sport has judges involved to some extent...

the 2 examples i cited are more akin to the arts- equestrian and synchronized swimming/diving

 

so d-rag, you stand by your claim that sailing is not an athletic contest?

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who ya got? what country and what sailors are you rooting for?

 

 

which female sailor has the biggest tits??? that's the one I'm rooting for...who care what country she's from

 

Speaking of... I can't find any nice ones anywhere. Cant tell on the Sailors through the jackets. So far, not even in beach volleyball. Saw some B's in indoor volleyball and they looked huge compares to the rest

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who ya got? what country and what sailors are you rooting for?

 

 

which female sailor has the biggest tits??? that's the one I'm rooting for...who care what country she's from

 

Speaking of... I can't find any nice ones anywhere. Cant tell on the Sailors through the jackets. So far, not even in beach volleyball. Saw some B's in indoor volleyball and they looked huge compares to the rest

 

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do rag must be hiding in his basement with the performance of the us competitors, oi oi oi

 

The US is tied with China for the most medals - what Olympics are you watching? As usual it's the US against the world and we win, you lose. And badmitton and sailing are not athletic contests so they don't count.

 

sailing is certainly an athletic contest, if you believe otherwise than youve never sailed a skiff or a laser or a finn or a sailboard in breeze, and are simply ignorant or a slow learner.

 

the sports that arent athletics are the judged contests- ie- equestrian and synchronized swimming/diving

 

that said, the medal count is quite skewed by swimming. theres a ridiculous amount of swimming medals awarded. If you de-factor this, i suspect the chinese are kicking US arse even more.

 

So, diving and gymnastics aren't athletic contests and sailing a laser is?

 

Jeebers!

 

uh no, you took my post too literally. I didnt mean every sport with a judge involved is not athletics. of course every single sport has judges involved to some extent...

the 2 examples i cited are more akin to the arts- equestrian and synchronized swimming/diving

 

so d-rag, you stand by your claim that sailing is not an athletic contest?

 

You remind me of myself when I was young and silly.

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who ya got? what country and what sailors are you rooting for?

 

 

which female sailor has the biggest tits??? that's the one I'm rooting for...who care what country she's from

 

Speaking of... I can't find any nice ones anywhere. Cant tell on the Sailors through the jackets. So far, not even in beach volleyball. Saw some B's in indoor volleyball and they looked huge compares to the rest

did you see the canadian synchronized diving team that medaled? :P

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You remind me of myself when I was young and silly.

 

Now you are just silly. :D:angry::lol:

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do rag must be hiding in his basement with the performance of the us competitors, oi oi oi

 

The US is tied with China for the most medals - what Olympics are you watching? As usual it's the US against the world and we win, you lose. And badmitton and sailing are not athletic contests so they don't count.

 

And China just got tossed for cheating in badmitton. Big surprise there.

Interesting.

 

Where do you stand on swimming under your best in a heat or one event to save energy for another? Or having qualified, pulling out on an event entirely even though you're clearly not injured? Or just not bothering to race in events you've entered.

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Finn race 7 has ended, victory for Ben Ainsley, PJ Postma second.Jonas Hogh Christensen 8th!

Difference between Jonas Hogh Christensen and Ben Ainsley is only four points now!

Wind was 16 to 14 knots Somewhat what it was all week. Guess wind doesn't have to do with it.

Despite the 15 Kilograms difference in weight between Ben and Jonas.

Jonas Hogh Christensen is falling back further in the tournament.

 

First Race 470 men just finished:

Here is the top 10:

1 Matthias Schmid, Florian Reichsteaedter, AUT

2 Luke Patience, Stuart Bithell, GBR

3 Mathew Belcher, Malcolm Page, AUS

4 Anton Dahlberg, Sebastian Östling, SWE

5 Lucas Calabrese, Juan de la Fuente, ARG

6 Gabrio Zandonã, Pietro Zucchetti, ITA

7 Onan Barreiros, Aaron Sarmiento, ESP

8 Paul Snow-Hansen, Jason Saunders, NZL

9 Sime Fantela, Igor Marenic, CRO

10 Sven Coster, Kalle Coster, NED

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Finn race 7 has ended, victory for Ben Ainsley, PJ Postma second.Jonas Hogh Christensen 8th!

Difference between Jonas Hogh Christensen and Ben Ainsley is only four points now!

Wind was 16 to 14 knots Somewhat what it was all week. Guess wind doesn't have to do with it.

Despite the 15 Kilograms difference in weight between Ben and Jonas.

Jonas Hogh Christensen is falling back further in the tournament.

 

First Race 470 men just finished:

Here is the top 10:

1 Matthias Schmid, Florian Reichsteaedter, AUT

2 Luke Patience, Stuart Bithell, GBR

3 Mathew Belcher, Malcolm Page, AUS

4 Anton Dahlberg, Sebastian Östling, SWE

5 Lucas Calabrese, Juan de la Fuente, ARG

6 Gabrio Zandonã, Pietro Zucchetti, ITA

7 Onan Barreiros, Aaron Sarmiento, ESP

8 Paul Snow-Hansen, Jason Saunders, NZL

9 Sime Fantela, Igor Marenic, CRO

10 Sven Coster, Kalle Coster, NED

 

 

Falling further back? - like from first to .............first. Sure he lost some of his cusion but is still vey much on top of the pile. Hope he stays there!

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Hope they don't get so far ahead for one to be able to sit on the other in the 10-man, double-points medal race - 1st is already 16 points up on 3rd after 8 races.

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Hope they don't get so far ahead for one to be able to sit on the other in the 10-man, double-points medal race - 1st is already 16 points up on 3rd after 8 races.

..it'd make for an epic matchrace :)

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Finn race 7 has ended, victory for Ben Ainsley, PJ Postma second.Jonas Hogh Christensen 8th!

Difference between Jonas Hogh Christensen and Ben Ainsley is only four points now!

Wind was 16 to 14 knots Somewhat what it was all week. Guess wind doesn't have to do with it.

Despite the 15 Kilograms difference in weight between Ben and Jonas.

Jonas Hogh Christensen is falling back further in the tournament.

 

First Race 470 men just finished:

Here is the top 10:

1 Matthias Schmid, Florian Reichsteaedter, AUT

2 Luke Patience, Stuart Bithell, GBR

3 Mathew Belcher, Malcolm Page, AUS

4 Anton Dahlberg, Sebastian Östling, SWE

5 Lucas Calabrese, Juan de la Fuente, ARG

6 Gabrio Zandonã, Pietro Zucchetti, ITA

7 Onan Barreiros, Aaron Sarmiento, ESP

8 Paul Snow-Hansen, Jason Saunders, NZL

9 Sime Fantela, Igor Marenic, CRO

10 Sven Coster, Kalle Coster, NED

 

 

Falling further back? - like from first to .............first. Sure he lost some of his cusion but is still vey much on top of the pile. Hope he stays there!

 

Race 9 finished for Finn.

Ben is finishes in 6 th position, Jonas Hogh Christensen 5 th and fellow country men JP Postma finishes first.

There is only 2 points between Ben Ainsley and Jonas Hogh / Christensen.Only race 10 and the medal race to follow.

This will be very close. Last World Championship in Perth, Ben took gold from JP Postma at the last race.

He knows when to win. I think we can expect Gold for Ben, Silver for Jonas Hogh Christensen and Bronze for Gaspic from Croatia.

 

Race 3 for 470 men

Luke patience and Stuart Bithell from Gbr switched first place with Matthias Schmidt and Florian Reichstadter from Austria.

 

Race 6 RSX men

Dorian Rijssselberghe rules! 1,1,1,3,1,2 racesequence

Fighting for Bronze are Silver Toni Wilhelm from Germany and Przemyslaw Miarczynski from Poland

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do rag must be hiding in his basement with the performance of the us competitors, oi oi oi

 

The US is tied with China for the most medals - what Olympics are you watching? As usual it's the US against the world and we win, you lose. And badmitton and sailing are not athletic contests so they don't count.

 

sailing is certainly an athletic contest, if you believe otherwise than youve never sailed a skiff or a laser or a finn or a sailboard in breeze, and are simply ignorant or a slow learner.

 

the sports that arent athletics are the judged contests- ie- equestrian and synchronized swimming/diving

 

that said, the medal count is quite skewed by swimming. theres a ridiculous amount of swimming medals awarded. If you de-factor this, i suspect the chinese are kicking US arse even more.

 

So, diving and gymnastics aren't athletic contests and sailing a laser is?

 

Jeebers!

 

Athletic yes.....But not a sport.

 

Ballet takes lots of athletic skills but it isn't a sport.

 

 

Anything in which the results are decided solely on the OPINION of others is not a sport.

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do rag must be hiding in his basement with the performance of the us competitors, oi oi oi

 

The US is tied with China for the most medals - what Olympics are you watching? As usual it's the US against the world and we win, you lose. And badmitton and sailing are not athletic contests so they don't count.

 

sailing is certainly an athletic contest, if you believe otherwise than youve never sailed a skiff or a laser or a finn or a sailboard in breeze, and are simply ignorant or a slow learner.

 

the sports that arent athletics are the judged contests- ie- equestrian and synchronized swimming/diving

 

that said, the medal count is quite skewed by swimming. theres a ridiculous amount of swimming medals awarded. If you de-factor this, i suspect the chinese are kicking US arse even more.

 

So, diving and gymnastics aren't athletic contests and sailing a laser is?

 

Jeebers!

 

Athletic yes.....But not a sport.

 

Ballet takes lots of athletic skills but it isn't a sport.

 

 

Anything in which the results are decided solely on the OPINION of others is not a sport.

 

+1

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do rag must be hiding in his basement with the performance of the us competitors, oi oi oi

 

The US is tied with China for the most medals - what Olympics are you watching? As usual it's the US against the world and we win, you lose. And badmitton and sailing are not athletic contests so they don't count.

 

sailing is certainly an athletic contest, if you believe otherwise than youve never sailed a skiff or a laser or a finn or a sailboard in breeze, and are simply ignorant or a slow learner.

 

the sports that arent athletics are the judged contests- ie- equestrian and synchronized swimming/diving

 

that said, the medal count is quite skewed by swimming. theres a ridiculous amount of swimming medals awarded. If you de-factor this, i suspect the chinese are kicking US arse even more.

 

So, diving and gymnastics aren't athletic contests and sailing a laser is?

 

Jeebers!

 

Athletic yes.....But not a sport.

 

Ballet takes lots of athletic skills but it isn't a sport.

 

 

Anything in which the results are decided solely on the OPINION of others is not a sport.

 

What are your thoughts on boxing? Sport or non-sport?

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