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Haven't you heard? Seamanship is for pussies. I can imagine these skippers having to make unpopular decisions to preserve the boats on occasion. The sail restriction seems like a big deal for this event to encourage self preservation. However, if the sails are overbuilt, what becomes the fuse?

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By old fashioned seamanship are you suggesting that modern crews have inferior seamanship skills? Or that they are reckless? The capability to do 35-40 kt and the chaotic Southern Ocean seas make it a different deal and rather pointless to compare today's seamanship with the olden days.

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By old fashioned seamanship are you suggesting that modern crews have inferior seamanship skills? Or that they are reckless? The capability to do 35-40 kt and the chaotic Southern Ocean seas make it a different deal and rather pointless to compare today's seamanship with the olden days.

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....the pre-requisite on seamanship seems to be...

...''must have been world-level in olympic skiffs or -better-,,,and prove you can maintain those skills for extended periods'' :blink:

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...hopefully the one design has taken away the teams looking for that last fraction of a percentage gain, so we might not get quite as many failures.

 

On what planet would this ever happen? First, no team is EVER going to quit looking for that last fraction of a percentage of gain. Second, any boat (including this one) will break, depending on how hard (or competently) it is pushed. How much there is breakage this version is up to the sailors and how hard they push. Is any one design fan actually believing either one of these selling points?

Perhaps I didn't make my point very well. I should have said maybe the one design will avoid some failiers resulting from structure being underbuilt.

 

Obviously we can, and someone will, break anything.

 

You are assuming the previous structures were "underbuilt" rather than over-driven. That assumption is not provable.

 

There are two things which are so close to a metaphysical certainty that I would bet my house on them:

 

1. These boats, like all their predecessors, have a weakness(es).

2. The teams (and conditions) will find it(them).

 

It's not about improving the durability of the boats as much as it is about changing the rules to penalize breakage so severely that teams are out. But the sponsors don't want that, so the teams will press as hard as they need to, and take risks they may not take given different constraints. It's not the boat, it's the rules.

I'm sure that (many of) the old boats were both under built and over driven. Who's not going to under build a boat and then push it too hard? I'm hoping that if someone's building a bunch the same they're less likely to be inclined to underbuilt as badly. The fact that these boats will have weaknesses is a given. All that said I think there is less likelihood of seriously underbuilt boats.

 

There's still a penalty to failing to finish a leg, you've got no points. Also if you get it badly wrong you miss the next leg.

 

I've sailed non discard regattas and there's nothing worse than people packing up and going home after a couple of days. Punishing people too hard is not good for the sponsors, and whittling down the number of contenders is not good for the spectators.

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Hey, just was looking at the photos... How does the new boat (VO65) compare to the old ones (VO70s) with respect to freeboard? About the same?

If you berth them side by side you know.

attachicon.gifVO70-Puma-Alicante.jpg

attachicon.gifVO65.jpg

 

From what I see on the photo's it's quitte the same

Hey Schakel, what with the BA avatar, is this a love thing?

No,

 

Just a possible winner for the cup. He was certainly very important in the last cup.

It's said he was for 50 percent responsible for the win.

I hope he will be able to manage his own team but I think he needs a lot of help.

 

His girlfriend is Dutch:

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I photographed her team once.

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Hey, just was looking at the photos... How does the new boat (VO65) compare to the old ones (VO70s) with respect to freeboard? About the same?

If you berth them side by side you know.

attachicon.gifVO70-Puma-Alicante.jpg

attachicon.gifVO65.jpg

 

From what I see on the photo's it's quitte the same

Hey Schakel, what with the BA avatar, is this a love thing?

No,

 

Just a possible winner for the cup. He was certainly very important in the last cup.

It's said he was for 50 percent responsible for the win.

I hope he will be able to manage his own team but I think he needs a lot of help. bottomless pit of money

 

His girlfriend is Dutch:

attachicon.gifMarit_Bouwmeester.jpg

I photographed her team once.

Fixed ;)

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ohhh oh oh, nroose,

 

This is going to be a mess again. Do you have a source for that?

 

Is that what they do in Berkeley? Telling things without a source?

Doesn't look science to me...

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I thought Ben was courting Pippa?

 

 

ohhh oh oh, nroose,

 

This is going to be a mess again. Do you have a source for that?

 

Is that what they do in Berkeley? Telling things without a source?

Doesn't look science to me...

.

 

......what is this--'valentines at th'VO???

 

...yer guys should.....GET A ROOM! <_<:rolleyes:

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I am pumped for this edition of the Volvo. I think the One design makes it far more interesting.

 

I have decided to visit every port and be there for the starts and the in port racing. Bring it on.

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I am pumped for this edition of the Volvo. I think the One design makes it far more interesting.

 

I have decided to visit every port and be there for the starts and the in port racing. Bring it on.

You clearly have too much time and money if you are going to be a Volvo racer chaser.

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Hey, just was looking at the photos... How does the new boat (VO65) compare to the old ones (VO70s) with respect to freeboard? About the same?

If you berth them side by side you know.

attachicon.gifVO70-Puma-Alicante.jpg

attachicon.gifVO65.jpg

 

From what I see on the photo's it's quitte the same

Hey Schakel, what with the BA avatar, is this a love thing?
No,

 

Just a possible winner for the cup. He was certainly very important in the last cup.

It's said he was for 50 percent responsible for the win.

I hope he will be able to manage his own team but I think he needs a lot of help.

 

His girlfriend is Dutch:

Marit_Bouwmeester.jpg

I photographed her team once.

Ex girlfriend

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I think one of the issues with breaking boats is that there is breaking, and then there is breaking. What we have seen in previous VORs, in addition to the usual failures on racing boats, have been serious, potentially life threatening structural failures. In the first race with VO70s the canting keel was the big problem. The specification of a milled steel fin proved to be a very good call, and no-one lost a keel, but keel rams fractured, hydraulics failed with monotonous regularity, and one keel tore out of the boat structure leading to loss of the boat. These were all underbuilt boats. Basically the designers got it wrong, and the sailors only found out the hard way where the less than adequate bounds were. Of course they were pushing, but inexperience on both designer's and sailor's sides with the new design rules lead to really quite bad problems. Later races saw bad boat threatening delaminations and failures of ring frames and stringers.

 

The common element with all these failures are slamming loads.

 

In addition we saw all the usual failures we would expect racing. Dismastings, blow outs of various sails, running rigging failures, gear failures. Worryingly, we did also see standing rigging failures which were underdesign, and some of which were below specification parts (wrong metal alloy).

 

The trouble with the structural failures is that there is no easy way to tell a sailor where the limits are. Seamanship doesn't really come into play. A boat can be perfectly healthy, sailing really fast, and a single slightly taller wave taken at a slightly poor angle mean a major failure of a brittle structure. Even a highly instrumented boat isn't really going to give enough warning about these loads. In that respect I would say the previous boats were underbuilt.

 

We expect failures when racing hard. That is part of the nature of the game. However the failures I would allow as part of the game are the usual ones - blown out sails, running rigging failures, and - in the extreme - dismastings. What don't consider reasonable is where a life threatening failure of the hull can occur due to hard sailing - before something else gives. That is in part what I tend to mean by a "fuse". Pushing really hard in fast conditions should have the mind of the sailor on keeping the parts of the boat he has some clear direct understanding and view of intact. Sails, rigging, mast. If the mind is concentrated on going fast but not losing the rig, you are much better off than going fast and not having any clue where the next failure will come from, whether it be the keel failing, the hull de-laminating, or the front falling off.

 

That seems to be the problem with open designs. Engineers like to balance a design. The idea that you overbuild one part of the boat is anathema. That leads to regime where you carefully balance out the design within the mass budget you have. We hear from the designers of the VOD65 how they have deliberately skewed the design to strengthen areas subject to failure in extreme conditions. That will lead to a very marginally slower boat than one where the build is balanced out.

 

This was the ultimate problem. To win the VOR with a VO70 you need two things. A boat as at least as fast as anyone else's, and the luck not to break it. If you build the boat stronger, you will not win. There will always be someone else who has a weaker, faster boat, that had the luck not to break it. So, given you want to win, you take the chance. And you get a row of weaker boats racing. So everyone's boats broke. Many with life threatening hull failures.

 

So, the answer would appear to be what has been done. Build the hull as strong as you can. Let the sailors push as hard as they desire, with the hope that if they do push past the edge, they will have a non-life threatening failure - all the way up to a rig loss, but that the boat itself will not fail.

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ohhh oh oh, nroose,

 

This is going to be a mess again. Do you have a source for that?

 

Is that what they do in Berkeley? Telling things without a source?

Doesn't look science to me...

Pippa_Sailing__6_2765061b.jpg

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ohhh oh oh, nroose,

 

This is going to be a mess again. Do you have a source for that?

 

Is that what they do in Berkeley? Telling things without a source?

Doesn't look science to me...

Pippa_Sailing__6_2765061b.jpg

.

 

..take it to 'Ben-Love anarchy'.....or 'Don'tYouKnowWhoIAmarchy '

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ohhh oh oh, nroose,

 

This is going to be a mess again. Do you have a source for that?

 

Is that what they do in Berkeley? Telling things without a source?

Doesn't look science to me...

Pippa_Sailing__6_2765061b.jpg
That picture is from an article she writes for the Telegraph. BA's girlfriend is Georgie Thompson, not Pippa.

Anyway back to the sailing.

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Hey, just was looking at the photos... How does the new boat (VO65) compare to the old ones (VO70s) with respect to freeboard? About the same?

If you berth them side by side you know.

Really ?

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I am pumped for this edition of the Volvo. I think the One design makes it far more interesting.

 

I have decided to visit every port and be there for the starts and the in port racing. Bring it on.

Whats the budget for that trip? :P

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I'll do the same.

 

 

But I am not a rich man.

Google streetview and volvo live website for me :(

I have a horrible feeling we may not get the same live streaming for the in port racing as we did last time.

I think VOR are planning on using traditional broadcasters instead. Hopefully I am wrong, as the chances of a freeview broadcaster picking it up in the uk is pretty slim.

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I'll do the same.

 

 

But I am not a rich man.

Google streetview and volvo live website for me :(

I have a horrible feeling we may not get the same live streaming for the in port racing as we did last time.

I think VOR are planning on using traditional broadcasters instead. Hopefully I am wrong, as the chances of a freeview broadcaster picking it up in the uk is pretty slim.

Oh that would be disappointing. If they are going the way of everyone else, they will probably only do streaming to people who have cable anyway. It's Comcast's battle with cord cutters.

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Seeing Sam Greenfields new video on team Alvichimedia I wonder if he's made the short list to be the on board reporter?

Sam is working directly for VOR at the moment. there are about 6 US media folks on the short list.

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Schakel,

I would change your pic. BA and MB broke up after the olympics

 

Bouwe keeps his team in the picture, where are te nice training pics of the other teams?

 

SCA seems to be on the low after the first pics and walk arounds.

 

 

 

 

 

Hey, just was looking at the photos... How does the new boat (VO65) compare to the old ones (VO70s) with respect to freeboard? About the same?

If you berth them side by side you know.

attachicon.gifVO70-Puma-Alicante.jpg

attachicon.gifVO65.jpg

 

From what I see on the photo's it's quitte the same

Hey Schakel, what with the BA avatar, is this a love thing?

No,

 

Just a possible winner for the cup. He was certainly very important in the last cup.

It's said he was for 50 percent responsible for the win.

I hope he will be able to manage his own team but I think he needs a lot of help.

 

His girlfriend is Dutch:

attachicon.gifMarit_Bouwmeester.jpg

I photographed her team once.

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I don't give a shit Ben and Marit broke up.

People are entitled to their personal life.

I do not like the english Tabloids very much that thrives on details like this.

Big head-lines about nothing.

But I like it they nailed Boris Bekker:

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Schakel,

I would change your pic. BA and MB broke up after the olympics

 

Bouwe keeps his team in the picture, where are te nice training pics of the other teams?

 

SCA seems to be on the low after the first pics and walk arounds.

 

 

 

 

 

Hey, just was looking at the photos... How does the new boat (VO65) compare to the old ones (VO70s) with respect to freeboard? About the same?

If you berth them side by side you know.

attachicon.gifVO70-Puma-Alicante.jpg

attachicon.gifVO65.jpg

 

From what I see on the photo's it's quitte the same

Hey Schakel, what with the BA avatar, is this a love thing?

No,

 

Just a possible winner for the cup. He was certainly very important in the last cup.

It's said he was for 50 percent responsible for the win.

I hope he will be able to manage his own team but I think he needs a lot of help.

 

His girlfriend is Dutch:

attachicon.gifMarit_Bouwmeester.jpg

I photographed her team once.

 

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people are entitled to their personal life.

I do not like the english Tabloids very much that thrives on details like this.

People who keep their lives private are entitled to a private life. People who make a lot of money by being famous for being famous have signed a Faustian pact. BA's relentless pursuit of publicity puts him into that category. I realise he's doing it as the price of raising £M for AC35 but even so, it's a position he's chosen to put himself into.

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people are entitled to their personal life.

I do not like the english Tabloids very much that thrives on details like this.

People who keep their lives private are entitled to a private life. People who make a lot of money by being famous for being famous have signed a Faustian pact. BA's relentless pursuit of publicity puts him into that category. I realise he's doing it as the price of raising £M for AC35 but even so, it's a position he's chosen to put himself into.

4 times Olympic Champion, 10 times world Champion and one of the main components in the Oracle team is something to be honoured.

He was honoured, as you remember with his Sir tittle.

It's British, I know.

If he wasn't that good he wouldn't draw all the attention.
But as with everything in the UK.. the tabloids messes everything up.
But back to the VOR!
Ian Walker presents his new team Abu Dhabi Racing on the VOR website:
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times Olympic Champion, 10 times world Champion and one of the main components in the Oracle team is something to be honoured.

He was honoured, as you remember with his Sir tittle.

It's British, I know.

If he wasn't that good he wouldn't draw all the attention.
But as with everything in the UK.. the tabloids messes everything up.

BA is still an asshole who attacked photographer.

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times Olympic Champion, 10 times world Champion and one of the main components in the Oracle team is something to be honoured.

He was honoured, as you remember with his Sir tittle.

It's British, I know.

If he wasn't that good he wouldn't draw all the attention.
But as with everything in the UK.. the tabloids messes everything up.

BA is still an asshole who attacked photographer.

.

...yes,,there's many of us who won't forget this aspect of the guy,,

 

,,I guess there's a lot of famous people who are asses in their private lives,

 

,,,,but that was a VERY public event,,,and all the creds he used in that minute went straight out the window for me,at least.

...........not to mention the handling of the event by the british and world sailing federations.

 

...any other sailor would have been given the life's BOOT <_<

 

 

...he's a classic 'DYK'** in my book ......**(DontYouKnowWhoIam!!?)

 

 

 

...in any case this should be in a 'we-love-Ben' thread

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He was honoured, as you remember with his Sir tittle.

It's British, I know.

If he wasn't that good he wouldn't draw all the attention.

But as with everything in the UK.. the tabloids messes everything up.

You are taking both the British honours system and the British tabloids more seriously than most British take them.

 

Btw I know a "Sir". He reads the tabloids because he likes a laugh. I don't read them but they do sometimes come in handy for lining the floor in our hen-houses.

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Btw I know a "Sir". He reads the tabloids because he likes a laugh. I don't read them but they do sometimes come in handy for lining the floor in our hen-houses.

.

 

...yeh..hens really like to eat-up that stuff :rolleyes:

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any rumors on the teams #6 and #7? Heard from the grapevine that a second dutch team might happen... . For me the two obvious candidates are still ETNZ (with GD just playing hard to get a better deal from VOR), and the Spanish with their tax benefits (although with some of their key sailors taking other gigs starting to be not so sure - Pepe Ribes is doing the BWR with Hugo Boss, Pablo Arrate just joined Team Brunel, Iker looks very Olympic Games focussed)

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And I changed my avatar from Ben Ainsley to Hokusai because of all the fuzz.

.

 

...a favorite pic now!

...Had always thought the other pic was of yourself until someone mentioned the big A :rolleyes:

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any rumors on the teams #6 and #7? Heard from the grapevine that a second dutch team might happen... . For me the two obvious candidates are still ETNZ (with GD just playing hard to get a better deal from VOR), and the Spanish with their tax benefits (although with some of their key sailors taking other gigs starting to be not so sure - Pepe Ribes is doing the BWR with Hugo Boss, Pablo Arrate just joined Team Brunel, Iker looks very Olympic Games focussed)

.

....yeh,,time is running down! :huh:

 

...I guess ETNZ can afford to step in pretty late--allow the other teams to find any weak-links.

......I agree with the thought they're playing their cards.....kinda like blackjack though---might draw one to many in the waiting game

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I heard through the grapevine that Roy Heiner went past all his possible sponsors and is fed up with all the definate NO's he got.

Too bad, I was with him a bar over here and he's certainly a professional sailor.

But perhaps mr. De Ridder from my yachtclub who did the mean machine campaign is ready for some action.

Otherwise I won't know any body else.

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And with the last hulls going to NZL? very very late. But ok if they try of course.

 

 

 

any rumors on the teams #6 and #7? Heard from the grapevine that a second dutch team might happen... . For me the two obvious candidates are still ETNZ (with GD just playing hard to get a better deal from VOR), and the Spanish with their tax benefits (although with some of their key sailors taking other gigs starting to be not so sure - Pepe Ribes is doing the BWR with Hugo Boss, Pablo Arrate just joined Team Brunel, Iker looks very Olympic Games focussed)

.

....yeh,,time is running down! :huh:

 

...I guess ETNZ can afford to step in pretty late--allow the other teams to find any weak-links.

......I agree with the thought they're playing their cards.....kinda like blackjack though---might draw one to many in the waiting game

 

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But perhaps mr. De Ridder from my yachtclub who did the mean machine campaign is ready for some action.

Otherwise I won't know any body else.

 

Funny, I had Mean Machine in mind when the OD rule first came out, it seemed that it would be exactly what teams like that needed to get across the line. But Mean Machine seems to have gone awfully quiet since abandoning the TP52 series. GFC? Just past it? I think getting a team like that in would make a very important difference to the VOR. It would be pretty cool if they did turn out to be one of the teams yet to announce, but sadly I don't have much hope.

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I see some posters few back are still wittering on about the Ben Ainslie phtographer event. The photgrapher shouldn't have interfered with Ainslie's chance of winning then there wouldn't have been a problem. Come to think of it ISAF shouldn't have been so stupid to deny right to redress in the NoR or SI's

 

Funny though, I though this was the VOR Teams thread!

 

On that matter, some cool news about Dongeng coming out of China in a few days.

 

See ya on the water.

 

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In that article, that you are referring to, the head line mentions:

GREEN-WATER MANAGEMENT IN THE COCKPIT PREVENTS THE DRIVER FROM GETTING SWEPT OFF THE WHEEL.

Believe it or not: I made this suggestion 8 years ago.

But .. better late then never.

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It's for safety.

 

The article says the following:

 

Overall the boat has a lot more structure than a VO70. The VO70 rule had a minimum number of bulkheads, combined with panel limitations, which allowed us to produce very light and open boats inside. This was good for freely moving gear but, as we saw in the last race, also produced boats that were prone to structural failures. With the VO65, every part of the boat has been designed much more conservatively. We have more structure, for example, with added longitudinal beams in the bow area and an additional bulkhead in the front of the boat.

 

Sustainable technology is what engineers call it.

 

 

 


 

Please tell me that's typo. That must be about 2km off the roll...

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Please tell me that's typo. That must be about 2km off the roll...

 

Its a shit load of carbon thats for sure

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The part I love is

 

"Creating an identity The bow has a noticeably reversed stem shape. A lot of styling attention was concentrated on the bow area because it is the most photographed part of the boat by a huge margin. We were under a lot of pressure to produce a boat that was relevant in its image and instantly recognizable. This is one area where a statement has to be made. The fastest boats in the world are multihulls, and they all have wave-piercing bows."

 

Guess what. Multihulls designed to go around the world do NOT have reversed bows. I wonder why.

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The part I love is

 

"Creating an identity The bow has a noticeably reversed stem shape. A lot of styling attention was concentrated on the bow area because it is the most photographed part of the boat by a huge margin. We were under a lot of pressure to produce a boat that was relevant in its image and instantly recognizable. This is one area where a statement has to be made. The fastest boats in the world are multihulls, and they all have wave-piercing bows."

 

Guess what. Multihulls designed to go around the world do NOT have reversed bows. I wonder why.

 

 

Guess what. Multihulls designed to go around the world do NOT have reversed bows. I wonder why.

 

Can you please explain?

 

This one seems to have gotten around the world OK with reverse bows, Eddie. When is the last time you looked at a RTW multihull...2006?

 

Edit: Here's one too - one of a whole fleet designed to go around the world.

 

 

 

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Big news,

 

Valencia sailing already had it.

 

From V Sail:

 

" Emirates Team New Zealand to enter the Volvo Ocean Race with Pedro Campos and MAPFRE

According to one of Spain’s top sailing journalists, Nicolas Terry, Emirates Team New Zealand is back in the Volvo Ocean Race, joining forces with Pedro Campos.

Just like the previous edition of the round-the-world race, Emirates Team New Zealand will take part in a Kiwi-Spanish joint-venture and according to reliable sources out of a total budget of €16 million, Grant Dalton will chip in with €10 million while Mapfre, the Spanish insurance giant, will provide €6 million.

Hats off to Grant Dalton for securing yet another big-name sponsor from Spain to fund the Kiwi entry in the premiere round-the-world race. There is a rumor about a big Russian sponsor as well but this is still unconfirmed.

This is a developing story, so stay tuned…"

Grand Dalton seemed to have found the new sponsors.

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Sad news ... as it means we will not get Team ESP 1 aka "Telefonica / Mapfre" AND TNZ, but only one team out of two potential candidates ... but than, at least, we get one more team ... :-)

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Folks,

I'm pretty sure Boat#8 will not be on the starting line...

 

1- Chinese

2- SCA

3- Alvimedica

4- Brunel

5- ADOR

6- ??

7- ??

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You could be right, but since # 6 is pretty well confirmed by now....

 

6: ETNZ/Mapfre

They will be strong I guess. I try to get some news for the possible crew or skipper on Twitter and the ETNZ site but nothing mentions a skipper or a crew.

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My sources say Nicho for sure, and Campos in the management team as either CEO or Team Director, whatever that means. Mapfre's sponsorship may be more about Pedro and the King making sure the VOR start stays in Alicante for 2017...

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I arrived on holidays in Lanzarote last night. Woke up this morning pulled back the curtains and there was Team SCA and another Volvo boat out training. Are they using a 70 to train with or is there another V65 based here.

I'm planning on heading to Puerto Calero tomorrow to take a look and hopefully get a few pics. I'll post a few here.

 

I know it's a total long shot but does anyone have any contacts to get me a spin on one?

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I arrived on holidays in Lanzarote last night. Woke up this morning pulled back the curtains and there was Team SCA and another Volvo boat out training. Are they using a 70 to train with or is there another V65 based here.

I'm planning on heading to Puerto Calero tomorrow to take a look and hopefully get a few pics. I'll post a few here.

 

I know it's a total long shot but does anyone have any contacts to get me a spin on one?

They bought Puma from the last race as a training boat and then have used it for two boat testing with the 65.

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You could be right, but since # 6 is pretty well confirmed by now....

 

6: ETNZ/Mapfre

 

Orgasms galore.

 

Well at least I have a reason to come to work now. Even if it is just to follow the race online.

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I'll do the same.

 

 

But I am not a rich man.

Google streetview and volvo live website for me :(

I have a horrible feeling we may not get the same live streaming for the in port racing as we did last time.

I think VOR are planning on using traditional broadcasters instead. Hopefully I am wrong, as the chances of a freeview broadcaster picking it up in the uk is pretty slim.

Not only are they planning to do live streaming, but I hear they're planning to really up the info from the boats this time round. Current plan is to have a daily 2 minute show, fully edited. This will help move the focus away from the Nav/Tax review yawn fest of old - where we simply used to get a repeat of what we already knew from the tracker, and instead get a real inside track of what's going on with the boats - ie. peels, mast climbs, watch changes etc etc...

It'll be a hell of a lot better - plus they've loads more remote cameras, MCMs as before and a much bigger off the boats camera team. There will also be 24hr producer coverage, so best bits & incidents can be pushed out to the media as and when it happens. Good on'em.

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The German team is probably not going to happen. From what I heard they´re trying to sell golf balls to fund their campaign...

The German Team is definitely not going to happen.

Correct, there is some weirdo wanting to sell enough golf balls to found a campain (because golf and sailing have the same wealthy background or so he arguments). Except the idea there is nothing, no team, no management no sailors and no time - and of course - not to mention - no money.

The link to the story / Interview:

http://segelreporter.com/regatta/sr-interview-wie-arne-reuter-zum-volvo-ocean-race-will/

 

Its of course in German but you can use the internettranslator if you like (take it from me - not worth the time

 

So there is nothing to team up with, either the British team take the boat or it stays back.

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The German team is probably not going to happen. From what I heard they´re trying to sell golf balls to fund their campaign...

The German Team is definitely not going to happen.

Correct, there is some weirdo wanting to sell enough golf balls to found a campain (because golf and sailing have the same wealthy background or so he arguments). Except the idea there is nothing, no team, no management no sailors and no time - and of course - not to mention - no money.

The link to the story / Interview:

http://segelreporter.com/regatta/sr-interview-wie-arne-reuter-zum-volvo-ocean-race-will/

 

Its of course in German but you can use the internettranslator if you like (take it from me - not worth the time

 

So there is nothing to team up with, either the British team take the boat or it stays back.

What about Illbruck challenge that won the VOR 2002?

Nowadays it is Pinta with CEO michael Illbruck

http://www.pinta-racing.com/en/sailing-history.html

They were active until 2008 and are in race cars with Porsches right now.

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I know it's a total long shot but does anyone have any contacts to get me a spin on one?

Team Movistar will give you a course on Ocean racing onboard Telefonica Black in Sanxenxo... I do have contacts there if you want.

 

Here's the email to contact them: cursov70@teamcampos.es

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Charles Caudrelier will be the skipper of Dongfeng. At 40, he participated to the Groupama winning ride in 2012 as helmsman. Former winner of the Solitaire du Figaro and Transat jacques Vabre.

 

Sports daily l'Equipe adds that a third of the crew will be chinese, the rest presumably french.

 

Wonder what language they'll use onboard. :blink:

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Probably English, it is the most used language in China after the mother tongue and both sides of the equation will have to adapt.

 

Also the team has on hand people capable of speaking the three languages; English, Chinese and Boat - don't forget we talk a different language than the landlubbers.

 

Plus there is already an English/Chinese glossary of sailing terms but not Chinese/French.

 

As the sponsor is Chinese the language should at least be partly Chinese - shouldn't it?

 

See ya on the water

 

SS

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To clarify a few comments made regarding the developing Spanish Kiwi partnership. Mapfre is not a bank. It is an insurance company. It does, however, participate in a wee bit of investment/pension fund management in Spain. Additionally, Mapfre has committed to participate in some fashion, but it has not committed to a specific dollar amount. Grant Dalton did not secure Mapfre as a sponsor. Team Campos is solely responsible for that effort.

 

Regardless, the pairing of the body of work of Pedro Campos and Grant Dalton will certainly prove to be a formidable force on the water.

 

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/9768215/Hope-for-Team-New-Zealand

 

Additionally, word coming out of Nembro is that boat 8 is about to receive the green light. I suspect that there is far more going on behind the scenes than we know.

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The German team is probably not going to happen. From what I heard they´re trying to sell golf balls to fund their campaign...

The German Team is definitely not going to happen.

Correct, there is some weirdo wanting to sell enough golf balls to found a campain (because golf and sailing have the same wealthy background or so he arguments). Except the idea there is nothing, no team, no management no sailors and no time - and of course - not to mention - no money.

The link to the story / Interview:

http://segelreporter.com/regatta/sr-interview-wie-arne-reuter-zum-volvo-ocean-race-will/

 

Its of course in German but you can use the internettranslator if you like (take it from me - not worth the time

 

So there is nothing to team up with, either the British team take the boat or it stays back.

What about Illbruck challenge that won the VOR 2002?

Nowadays it is Pinta with CEO michael Illbruck

http://www.pinta-racing.com/en/sailing-history.html

They were active until 2008 and are in race cars with Porsches right now.

I heard that the company´s development after transition from father to son doesn´t allow a campaingn any bigger than what they have at the moment.

Don´t nail me on that, I havnt checked their records - costal talk only.

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The German team is probably not going to happen. From what I heard they´re trying to sell golf balls to fund their campaign...

The German Team is definitely not going to happen.

Correct, there is some weirdo wanting to sell enough golf balls to found a campain (because golf and sailing have the same wealthy background or so he arguments). Except the idea there is nothing, no team, no management no sailors and no time - and of course - not to mention - no money.

The link to the story / Interview:

http://segelreporter.com/regatta/sr-interview-wie-arne-reuter-zum-volvo-ocean-race-will/

 

Its of course in German but you can use the internettranslator if you like (take it from me - not worth the time

 

So there is nothing to team up with, either the British team take the boat or it stays back.

What about Illbruck challenge that won the VOR 2002?

Nowadays it is Pinta with CEO michael Illbruck

http://www.pinta-racing.com/en/sailing-history.html

They were active until 2008 and are in race cars with Porsches right now.

I heard that the company´s development after transition from father to son doesn´t allow a campaingn any bigger than what they have at the moment.

Don´t nail me on that, I havnt checked their records - costal talk only.

It's expensive..yes But brings a lot of advertisement.

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Any word on who might be involved with a UK team (Rob Greenhalgh...) ?

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